* Wed C&C "No Theme" Thread #697 on 2021 09 01 *

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* Wed C&C "No Theme" Thread #697 on 2021 09 01 *

Welcome to the Wednesday Comments and Critique (No Theme) thread!

We are continuing the great tradition of this C&C thread because we are convinced that looking at and talking about images is vital for better photography.

The idea is simple: you post an image and get critique on it, and in return give other people your opinion of their images, or vice versa.

Please post your image (or essay) in a reply to this very first message in the thread, and not in a reply to someone else's message. This keeps the thread tidy, with a sequence of images and then the comments on those images right under them. Threaded view of the thread is recommended to see what we mean.

Generally, you should post only ONE SINGLE IMAGE for C&C.

TWO EXCEPTIONS and a VARIATION:

  1. You may post two pictures resulting from one shutter release but with different treatment (for example a color and a black & white version, or a different crop) for us to choose from and comment on. You may also post in a single post, two images that are closely related in subject or style.
  2. The thread is also open for the contribution of a Photo Essay of three or more images that should be viewed as a whole and that tell a specific story.
  3. If you want to submit to C&C more than one image (while they do not form an essay or are not closely related), please submit the different images each in their own separate sub thread. This new rule has been created in order to have a greater variety of images in “slow” weeks with few participants. In a “busy” week, please limit yourself to a single submission (image or essay) in order to give as many participants as possible a change to participate.

TWO RULES:

  1. If you post an image, you should critique at least one other image. If you post more than one image, please make an effort to post comments on at least a few images of other members.
  2. Keep your comments honest but polite. If you don’t care for an image try to explain why. This is neither a “Good shot!” nor an image-bashing thread.

Any style, any camera.

Feedback is guaranteed (-for up to 48 h after the thread has started)! Though keep in mind that the thread tends to be busiest during the first 24 hours or so, so later image posts may get little feedback.

HOW TO PLAY:

Single Images

  1. Change the title so we can sort different images out easily!
  2. Remember to add the EXIF if your image doesn't embed it as this may help
  3. Consider telling us what your own opinion on your image is. What prompted you to click that shutter button? What did you see? Why do you like the result? You don't have to explain, but it might be interesting.
  4. You are very welcome to post a group reply to the feedback you have received. This could include a new version of your image modified in response to the comments.

Photo Essays

The idea is that the posted images should be related and together try to tell a story about a place, an event, a travel you made, a (group of) person(s), a hobby or whatever is fit for an essay.

  1. Suggested number of images : minimum 3 and maximum 12 but numbers may vary.
  2. It is allowed (and encouraged) to include some verbal narrative IF you think that helps explain the essay, but text is not required. You can choose to let the images speak for themselves.
  3. Individual technical data of the separate photos is not required, but you can of course give information that you deem relevant.
  4. If you post a series, you commit yourself to critique at least one other series (if there are any; if not critique at least one image...). To make a distinction with the C&C of single images, we feel that comments should not focus on individual images, but on the series as a series. This can cover multiple angles :
  • do you think the series tells the story well?
  • how about the sequence and pace : would you sequence the images differently, and if so, why?
  • is there enough consistency in cropping, angles, PP treatment : does it really feel like a series or is it just a collection of shots?
  • do you think one image is a real highlight, or are there one or more images that would better be removed to prune the essay to a leaner and meaner series?
  • do you think a certain angle of the place/event/... is sorely missing from the story?
  • et cetera

IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, WELCOME! AND BE SURE TO READ THIS:

  • The critique you give is vital. What was your first impression? What catches your eye about an image? Why? What do you like, and what distracts you? What would you change?
  • Fiddle with the image in your head - composition, perspective, color balance, exposure.
  • It is understood that unless the original poster specifically states that they do not want an altered image posted that you are free to alter the posted image and repost it in a reply for C&C purposes (no use for other purposes!). That reposted image may remain permanently or you may remove it after a short period of time if you prefer. No copyright disputes here!
  • More general feedback is also welcome. Do you know something about taking the same sort of image that would make matters easier - share your own as an example in your reply. Encourage - it is a scary business putting your work up for other people to judge!
  • Finally what is the verdict? Waste-bin? Snapshot? Could be better? Family Album? Frame on wall? Poster-size frame on wall? Billboard? Reuters? World Press Photo? National Geographic? Museum? (pick your own superlative here)

One of the first replies is “The Related Post”. Below that header is the place to post your general musings about the C&C Thread.

In another of the first replies, the “Archives”, you can find the links (and cumulative links) to ALL our previous editions. Enjoy the time-travel!

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*ARCHIVES*

Here are the links to all our previous editions of the current year, and the summaries of all previous years (13 years already… and counting):

2021:

Week 696 on 2021/08/25: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65429837

Week 695 on 2021/08/18: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65410064

Week 694 on 2021/08/11: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65391217

Week 693 on 2021/08/04: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65372352

Week 692 on 2021/07/28: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65354331

Week 691 on 2021/07/21: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65334933

Week 690 on 2021/07/14: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65316463

Week 689 op 2021/07/07: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65296658

Week 688 on 2021/06/30: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65276590

Week 687 on 2021/06/23: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65257058

Week 686 on 2021/06/16: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65237639

Week 685 on 2021/06/09: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65217471

Week 684 on 2021/06/02: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65195702

Week 683 on 2021/05/26: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65174469

Week 682 on 2021/05/19: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65152930

Week 681 on 2021/05/12: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65131331

Week 680 on 2021/05/05: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65110543

Week 679 on 2021/04/28: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65088711

Week 678 on 2021/04/21: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65066568

Week 677 on 2021/04/14: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65045069

Week 676 on 2021/04/07: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65022496

Week 675 on 2021/03/31: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65000200

Week 674 on 2021/03/24: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64976233

Week 673 on 2021/03/17: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64952746

Week 672 on 2021/03/10: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64930417

Week 671 on 2021/03/03: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64907424

Week 670 on 2021/02/24: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64884390

Week 669 on 2021/02/17: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64862221

Week 668 on 2021/02/10: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64839845

Week 667 on 2021/02/03: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64816305

Week 666 on 2021/01/27: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64790782

Week 665 on 2021/01/20: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64768645

Week 664 on 2021/01/13: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64746754

Week 663 on 2021/01/06: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64725924

Links to Year Summary of All Previous Editions:

2020: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64725942

2019: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63478234

2018: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/62119743

2017: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60619049

2016: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58941978

2015: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57004809

2014: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/55055459

2013: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52814278

2012: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/50996742

2011: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/40228457

2010: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/37375543

2009: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/34168706

2008: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/30596254

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Post your general comments as a reply to THIS post.

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Fireworks

I went to photograph the big fireworks at 21.00 hours over the Danube in Budapest, on Szent Istvan Nap (Saint Stephen's Day, the Hungarian national holiday).

Not surprisingly, I found the people more interesting than the pyrotechnics.

(yes, another iphone image)

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Searching for Lizards

I am visiting family this week, so my internet access is very limited.

This is also an iPhone image. Sort of.

Pete

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minniev Veteran Member • Posts: 3,986
Botanical Garden Project Part 1

This week and probably next I'll be sharing sets from a project I'm doing for our local environmental group.

In the 1970s the area where I live was just "developing" out of wilderness and less than 200 families lived out here, most having moved from a nearby big city. The ladies, perhaps bored, formed a garden club, but found the area so different that their usual projects were untenable. So they focused on creating a large botanical garden featuring native plant life, with walking trails throughout. As the ladies aged they became less able to maintain it, and now only a few are still afoot. Today's generation of women are too busy working to keep the club alive. Our non profit took it on as a project, got a grant, and by spring will have completed the cleanup/fixup/refurbishing. It will be handicapped accessible and braille certified. I'm doing the photography for the print and kiosk guides (except for the birds, who are being done by a local Audubon bird photographer). These aren't in order, but plucked from the larger set of the spring/summer grouping.

This is the main trail, about a mile long with some unpaved side trails and features to explore. It will all be smoothed for easy wheelchair access and marked for safety for the visually impaired.

The first thing the ladies planted was camellias. Unchecked for half a century they are now large trees. After their camellia phase, they decided to plant only native plants, but they left the camellias where they were.

Bill has written several books on "fernology" and led the development of the fern bog, which features every kind of native fern in central Misssissippi.

I don't know all their names but they are fun to photograph in closeup.

Wild morning glories abound in summer.

Because a creek runs through the middle of the garden we often have a light fog in the mornings that makes photos more fun. There's bird boxes like this, individually chosen for the types of birds our Audubon folks have identified as residents. The signage for the visually impaired will have bird songs and tactile images.

We wanted an outdoor classroom to encourage field trips by school groups as well as grown up groups like garden clubs, so volunteers built us one.

I've taught photography classes in the outdoor classroom. It's free to the public for anyone to use.

One of my assignments was to photograph a Devil's Walking Stick which I would have thought was an insect. After several tries, I finally found someone who knew what and where one was - ancient breed of trees with few leaves and lots of thorns.

There is a raised butterfly garden out front that is accessible for wheelchairs, so the original ladies' club members, many of whom are wheelchair bound now, can putter around with trowels if they wish.

19andrew47
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Re: Botanical Garden Project Part 1

A nice set Paula.  Love the butterfly you ended with, a variety we do not have.  As to the devil's walking sticks, I hope that if they were planted that they realize they are invasive self seeders.  My wife planted a couple she got from a neighbour.  They quickly take over any barren earth areas.  We have some growing through the river rock around the above ground pool.  You can not pull them out so chemical warfare ensued!

An interesting set and good that the area is being revived.

Andrew

19andrew47
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Re: Searching for Lizards

An interesting idea which I have not seen done elsewhere.  Not sure you needed f/11 though so assuming the image was actually on the phone it is something you could retry at a different setting Pete.  Detail may not be that important though for this type of image.

Andrew

KeesSmeele
KeesSmeele Regular Member • Posts: 373
Fungus
2

Spotted this fellow on a walk last sunday. This mushroom decided to grow right on top of a post of a gate in a fence.

The weather wasn't perfect for photography at all: grey, cloudy and a bit of drizzling rain. Still iI am pleased with the results. Moreover this is a first attempt to process the RAW image in Darktable. Itś freeware that got my interest for a while, now I have found the time to practice it. The learning curve is a steep one and I am not at the end of the curve. I still need to figure out how to denoise the background, for instance. as an first attempt, I am pleased with the result.

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Kumsal Contributing Member • Posts: 527
A kitschy photo 😄

LouHolland
LouHolland Veteran Member • Posts: 9,853
The silence of the lamp ..

The silence of the lamp

Lou

LouHolland
LouHolland Veteran Member • Posts: 9,853
Re: Searching for Lizards

P3T3S wrote:

I am visiting family this week, so my internet access is very limited.

This is also an iPhone image. Sort of.

Pete

A nice find/idea and combination, like it Pete

Lou

LouHolland
LouHolland Veteran Member • Posts: 9,853
Re: Botanical Garden Project Part 1

minniev wrote:

This week and probably next I'll be sharing sets from a project I'm doing for our local environmental group.

In the 1970s the area where I live was just "developing" out of wilderness and less than 200 families lived out here, most having moved from a nearby big city. The ladies, perhaps bored, formed a garden club, but found the area so different that their usual projects were untenable. So they focused on creating a large botanical garden featuring native plant life, with walking trails throughout. As the ladies aged they became less able to maintain it, and now only a few are still afoot. Today's generation of women are too busy working to keep the club alive. Our non profit took it on as a project, got a grant, and by spring will have completed the cleanup/fixup/refurbishing. It will be handicapped accessible and braille certified. I'm doing the photography for the print and kiosk guides (except for the birds, who are being done by a local Audubon bird photographer). These aren't in order, but plucked from the larger set of the spring/summer grouping.

This is the main trail, about a mile long with some unpaved side trails and features to explore. It will all be smoothed for easy wheelchair access and marked for safety for the visually impaired.

The first thing the ladies planted was camellias. Unchecked for half a century they are now large trees. After their camellia phase, they decided to plant only native plants, but they left the camellias where they were.

Bill has written several books on "fernology" and led the development of the fern bog, which features every kind of native fern in central Misssissippi.

I don't know all their names but they are fun to photograph in closeup.

Wild morning glories abound in summer.

Because a creek runs through the middle of the garden we often have a light fog in the mornings that makes photos more fun. There's bird boxes like this, individually chosen for the types of birds our Audubon folks have identified as residents. The signage for the visually impaired will have bird songs and tactile images.

We wanted an outdoor classroom to encourage field trips by school groups as well as grown up groups like garden clubs, so volunteers built us one.

I've taught photography classes in the outdoor classroom. It's free to the public for anyone to use.

One of my assignments was to photograph a Devil's Walking Stick which I would have thought was an insect. After several tries, I finally found someone who knew what and where one was - ancient breed of trees with few leaves and lots of thorns.

There is a raised butterfly garden out front that is accessible for wheelchairs, so the original ladies' club members, many of whom are wheelchair bound now, can putter around with trowels if they wish.

I like 1,4,5 and the last one, also the man with the America T-shirt and his surprised look is more than worth the picture.

Lou

LouHolland
LouHolland Veteran Member • Posts: 9,853
Re: Fungus

KeesSmeele wrote:

Spotted this fellow on a walk last sunday. This mushroom decided to grow right on top of a post of a gate in a fence.

The weather wasn't perfect for photography at all: grey, cloudy and a bit of drizzling rain. Still iI am pleased with the results. Moreover this is a first attempt to process the RAW image in Darktable. Itś freeware that got my interest for a while, now I have found the time to practice it. The learning curve is a steep one and I am not at the end of the curve. I still need to figure out how to denoise the background, for instance. as an first attempt, I am pleased with the result.

Kees even though the focus point is slightly in front of the mushroom, it is beautiful and I would have taken it too.

Lou

(A pity is the tumb up because now I seem to have it as the only commenter at the moment while I hate it and still think that writing a comment is kinder.)

LouHolland
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Re: A kitschy photo ..

Kumsal wrote:

Kumsal you think it's a kitchy photo?

Well, it is a subject that is often photographed, but it remains a beautiful subject and the quality of your photo is fine.

Lou

LouHolland
LouHolland Veteran Member • Posts: 9,853
Re: Fireworks

RoelHendrickx wrote:

I went to photograph the big fireworks at 21.00 hours over the Danube in Budapest, on Szent Istvan Nap (Saint Stephen's Day, the Hungarian national holiday).

Not surprisingly, I found the people more interesting than the pyrotechnics.

(yes, another iphone image)

Your fireworks turn out as a bunch of white flowers (lovely) and of course you need a photographer (2)

Lou

19andrew47
19andrew47 Forum Pro • Posts: 41,642
Re: The silence of the lamp ..

A very well staged and executed image Lou, and fitting of the title!

Andrew

19andrew47
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Re: A kitschy photo 😄

Nice details, well exposed and colourful.  The heart shape is an excellent addition.

Andrew

19andrew47
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National Gallery of Canada, Ottawa

A single image taken with the Venus Optics Laowa 7.5 mm f/2 m4/3 lens at f/4 with the EM1ii.  Processed two ways.

Andrew

done as a single image HDR file in PSP and Nik

initial processing in OW finished in PSP and Nik.

19andrew47
19andrew47 Forum Pro • Posts: 41,642
Re: Fireworks

Nothing but phone cameras in sight, perhaps one on the tripod though!  A nice image but you need to exercise your dedicated cameras more.  They must be feeling neglected Roel!

Andrew

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