One thing...

There is often, but not always, something one wishes they had more of. Curious to hear other R owners (all of them) thoughts on the following:

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What is the the most important thing you could use more of?

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I'll followup with another poll in a minute though for ownership so there is context. If a bunch of RP people respond for example, it's going to sound like the higher end R's have no FPS, battery life and dynamic range, for example

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The polls don't permit multiple answers; feel free to also respond below with comments as I'm sure many will.

Not complaining so don't hear what I'm not saying, but for me? More ISO / low light sensitivity (less noise at higher ISOs) tops my list. FPS comes in at a very close second. Video options, in my case lower bitrates for 4k to give my Synology an easier time and uncropped 4K come in just after that by a hair, with autofocus after that.

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The original R is an amazing little beast, but, it's showing it's age when you shoot a 14FPS, uncropped 4K capable M6 II next to it. I've shot an R5 before, IBIS is nice as is 45MP, but ironically less useful than I would've thought for my shooting style. Stacked BSI sensors coming to the R is refreshing as when you look at what my former Nikon 1J3 could do (high FPS, lightning fast AF, smooth video), fast sensors are a very good thing. Really looking forward to what Canon does with the R1, upcoming R and RP refreshes. The latter two may or may not get BSI/stacked CMOS though.

jwilliams wrote:

None of the above. The one thing I'd like to see more of is affordable lenses and camera bodies. The Price of the RF system has really gotten off the rails expensive and I already have spent what most sane people would think is an exorbitant amount of money on camera gear. The almost non-existant 3rd party lens support doesn't help either.

The cameras have the technical capabilities for pretty much any type of practical photo needs already. The problems to be solved are mostly not technical in nature but developing a system that can appeal to someone other than deep pocketed pros and enthusiasts.

If I could ask for anything specific it would be an updated RP. Add IBIS and a sensor with modern tech. The RP is the only camera that is really technologically behind by any significant amount. A few updates would make it the ideal inexpensive and small/light camera.

Touché, you might get your wish. I was just thinking what Canon could do for the RP, and they can either drop the R sensor in it, or add IBIS, or both.

Probably the former; IBIS adds a decent measure of weight and cost. RP is about small, light in my book.

The R II will probably have IBIS though.

Number 1: AF, stickyness of subject tracking and speed (accuracy of the R is fine)

But there's more:

• better SOOC colors, especially in low light situations with dark backgrounds
• IBIS
• dedicated DOF preview button. It's always there, and you don't have to remember how important it is to assign this function to a button. The R wasn't a good first full frame camera in that regard.

The only thing I wish for is a bigger body and maybe the R3 will solve that.

I have two R5's with grips and they aren't bad but would like it a little bigger and for all the controls to be the same vertical and horizontal. When I go vertical with the grip the joystick is not in the same spot and it gets annoying trying to find it and I have missed shots.

The R3 body looks nice but it's not worth it for me to buy just for that.

Also wish they would let you choose a slower frame rate when using the electronic shutter. Sometimes I want to shoot silent and not to disturb a animal but don't need 20 fps. Just to save time going through shots in post, it's amazing how fast they add up.

tkbslc wrote:

As an Rp owner, I'd hope the Rp mark II would address these shortcomings:

• improved 4K video (less crop and/or better AF in 4k mode. Not expecting pro video features)
• improved DR (it's got the worst DR in the FF world right now)
• Improved Battery

I don't think it really needs IBIS.

Agree with this. You're not buying the RP for the f/2.0 zoom, and all the others are stabilized. The 35mm and 85mm stm have IS as well. The 50 stm is a budget option anyway.

I'd rather keep it small and cheap. If I needed faster burst rates and pro AF, I'd expect to pay up for an R6.

I think if I had to pick one, as the threat title says, I'd pick battery. That impacts me frequently whereas the others are just occasional annoyances.

tkbslc wrote:

The Nikon Z5 has IBIS, so maybe Canon will feel like they need to add it to compete. And certainly I'll take it. But it's way lower on the list than better sensor and battery for sure.

I think IBIS will become as ubiquitous as AF, the only question is how long before it happens. Given the nature of tech, I would say soon

tkbslc wrote:

As an Rp owner, I'd hope the Rp mark II would address these shortcomings:

• improved 4K video (less crop and/or better AF in 4k mode. Not expecting pro video features)
• improved DR (it's got the worst DR in the FF world right now)
• Improved Battery

I'd add -- ss 1/8000

and better implementation of e-shutter

I would need many improvements before buying another

the SOOC colors and jpgs are wonderful and I don't want to mess that up

I don't think it really needs IBIS. I'd rather keep it small and cheap. If I needed faster burst rates and pro AF, I'd expect to pay up for an R6.

I think if I had to pick one, as the threat title says, I'd pick battery. That impacts me frequently whereas the others are just occasional annoyances.

RLight wrote:

There is often, but not always, something one wishes they had more of. Curious to hear other R owners (all of them) thoughts on the following:

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What is the the most important thing you could use more of?

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I'll followup with another poll in a minute though for ownership so there is context. If a bunch of RP people respond for example, it's going to sound like the higher end R's have no FPS, battery life and dynamic range, for example

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The polls don't permit multiple answers; feel free to also respond below with comments as I'm sure many will.

The R5 meets my needs 99% of the way. It is hard for me to imagine how it could be better, not saying it couldn't, just saying I don't know what that would look like in normal conditions. I really didn't know how the R could be improved upon either, but when I got the R5 every shot got more "atmospheric". It's easy to point and say "more ISO", or whatever, but I get along pretty well with what the R5 can do. Yesterday however I took pictures of a black cat in a poorly lit home and the ISO was up at 25600 and the images were I hate to say, cellphone quality. You might be laughing about the black cat in a dark room scenario but it happened. So, that is one case where maybe the R5 isn't a perfect camera.

So,no coalmines available for the shoot?

DigitalAmnesia wrote:

RLight wrote:

There is often, but not always, something one wishes they had more of. Curious to hear other R owners (all of them) thoughts on the following:

.

What is the the most important thing you could use more of?

.

I'll followup with another poll in a minute though for ownership so there is context. If a bunch of RP people respond for example, it's going to sound like the higher end R's have no FPS, battery life and dynamic range, for example

.

The polls don't permit multiple answers; feel free to also respond below with comments as I'm sure many will.

The R5 meets my needs 99% of the way. It is hard for me to imagine how it could be better, not saying it couldn't, just saying I don't know what that would look like in normal conditions. I really didn't know how the R could be improved upon either, but when I got the R5 every shot got more "atmospheric". It's easy to point and say "more ISO", or whatever, but I get along pretty well with what the R5 can do. Yesterday however I took pictures of a black cat in a poorly lit home and the ISO was up at 25600 and the images were I hate to say, cellphone quality. You might be laughing about the black cat in a dark room scenario but it happened. So, that is one case where maybe the R5 isn't a perfect camera.

Not laughing at all. My R breaks down at 25600 too.

This is one area the R6 excels; really low light. I know DPR just got done saying R5 > R6, but my research shows when you start punching ISOs above 12800, the R6 looks better. Now how wise it is to shoot above 12800 to begin with is another story.

Part of this poll is curiosity, the other is to address where I think things will go and whether or not that “plugs the holes” so to speak. Things like the R5 are a modern technological wonder, however, it’s still an FSI sensor. The R1 will clearly be stacked CMOS and thus BSI. The difference is about 1/3-2/3 stops, in other words ISO 25600 on an R1 should look like ISO20000 or 16000 on and R5. Those are much more workable ISOs.

The R6 sensor will get BSI first in the form of the R3. That one has my attention.

Canon will probably do another DIGIC iteration with the R1; curious if it’ll improve both throughput and power efficiency. Depends how fancy they get with its design.

My bet? Dual DIGICX. DIGICX2/Y might be a split or hybrid design. The R1 needs sheer power. Other non demanding sensors need efficiency where I can see high speed and low speed cores.

viska wrote:

So,no coalmines available for the shoot?

LOL