Looking for a wider angle lens for my Z50

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jaymc
jaymc Senior Member • Posts: 1,106
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Just quoting you ... 

"I am 100% sure you mean well. But this may be distateful to some and any link to a camera a bit weird (at least to me)"

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TheWillRogers
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Re: Looking for a wider angle lens for my Z50

JohnNewman wrote:

I don't need or want FF. I'm 75 with arthritic hands and either the Z50 or Zfc will serve me well.

John

Well, the Z50 can be a bit cramped so I hope for your joints sake that the Z fc is more comfy.

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Brueghel
Brueghel Senior Member • Posts: 1,272
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jaymc wrote:

Just quoting you ...

"I am 100% sure you mean well. But this may be distateful to some and any link to a camera a bit weird (at least to me)"

=== "I am 100% sure you mean well. But this may be distateful to some ===

OK they're not worshippers. They are just in love with the Zfc looks. They're just  members of the Hagiography Club

But I never knew that calling someone a worshipper was distateful. I worship Leo Messi. You can laugh at me for that. No problem.

(If you thought that I meant religion, you are offside)

=== and any link to a camera a bit weird (at least to me)"

That's harder to understand. Use your imagination: Can't you think of many cancers where the association to a specific color would be hilarious if not squarely weird ?

I could give you a hint, but that would be distateful

==========

I was just being ironic because the fans of the Zfc (izzatok?) seem to have solved their wide angle lens problem because the issue does not seem to concern them

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briantilley
briantilley Veteran Member • Posts: 6,414
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Brueghel wrote:

=== and any link to a camera a bit weird (at least to me)"

That's harder to understand. Use your imagination: Can't you think of many cancers where the association to a specific color would be hilarious if not squarely weird ?

The colour pink is well-known to be associated with Breast Cancer awareness, for example:

https://squarecowmovers.com/how-pink-became-the-color-of-breast-cancer-awareness-month/

You may think that's odd, but I don't think it should be ridiculed.  May I suggest that we just move on...?

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Brueghel
Brueghel Senior Member • Posts: 1,272
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May I suggest that we just move on...?

Excellent idea.

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P450 Forum Member • Posts: 65
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Why not use the 14-30 S to give 21-45? No adapter. Light weight, compact. I do this with my Z7. Twenty-one mm is pretty wide.

bluzman
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P450 wrote:

Why not use the 14-30 S to give 21-45? No adapter. Light weight, compact. I do this with my Z7. Twenty-one mm is pretty wide.

4x the cost is why

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xlucine Regular Member • Posts: 204
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P450 wrote:

Why not use the 14-30 S to give 21-45? No adapter. Light weight, compact. I do this with my Z7. Twenty-one mm is pretty wide.

It's not much wider than the 16-50 (and slightly dimmer at the wide end), and costs 2x the 10-20 and FTZ together (or a little more than the FTZ + 10-24)

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TheWillRogers
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P450 wrote:

Why not use the 14-30 S to give 21-45? No adapter. Light weight, compact. I do this with my Z7. Twenty-one mm is pretty wide.

20-45 is actually a really cool range to me. Sadly, that lens costs more than the entire Z50 two lens kit with FTZ

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ZapperVT Senior Member • Posts: 1,551
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P450 wrote:

Why not use the 14-30 S to give 21-45? No adapter. Light weight, compact. I do this with my Z7. Twenty-one mm is pretty wide.

It's barely wider than the 16-50, a bit slower than the 16-50 on the wide end.  And NO VR so it would be a worse choice in low light. The 10-20 has VR worth at least 2, maybe 3 stops - very useful for things like architectural interiors.

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flashpixx
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p5freak wrote:

There will never be a Z DX 10-20mm zoom, or similar. I dont think there will ever be any Z DX lens released in the future from Nikon, except for the 18-140. They dont think DX is a format worth supporting. Not beyond kit lenses.

You're thinking even though Nikon have just released the Zfc there will be no new lenses?

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vbuhay
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I bought the TTartisan 7.5mm f2.0 might take it along to hike up Half Dome in a week....I will also have my Akaso Brave 78 for the Video....here are samples of the TTartisan 7.5 f2.0 fisheye....

The closer you are to the edge the greater the curvature, staying in the middle its just fine its ( 11mm equivalent)

f2.0 but all manual...I shoot manually (auto ISO) anyways....its hard to miss focus with this lens and its only $150!!!!

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p5freak Senior Member • Posts: 2,973
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flashpixx wrote:

p5freak wrote:

There will never be a Z DX 10-20mm zoom, or similar. I dont think there will ever be any Z DX lens released in the future from Nikon, except for the 18-140. They dont think DX is a format worth supporting. Not beyond kit lenses.

You're thinking even though Nikon have just released the Zfc there will be no new lenses?

Yes.

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P450 Forum Member • Posts: 65
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Good points. I was thinking if there was ever a move to FF, then OP would not need to purchase another lens. But I forgot the Z50 does not have IBIS. The 10-20 is the way to go.

j tokarz Senior Member • Posts: 1,144
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I use a Sigma 10-20 3.5. I find it a fantastic lens. I also use it on my Z6 in cropped mode. !0 mpxl. Then enhance in photoshop, i think something like 50 mpxls. It works for me. Maybe if i worked for National Geographics i would think of spending upwards of £1000. I paid £150 and its like new.

OP NikonMike Senior Member • Posts: 1,354
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j tokarz wrote:

I use a Sigma 10-20 3.5. I find it a fantastic lens. I also use it on my Z6 in cropped mode. !0 mpxl. Then enhance in photoshop, i think something like 50 mpxls. It works for me. Maybe if i worked for National Geographics i would think of spending upwards of £1000. I paid £150 and its like new.

Thanks. I’ll check that one out.
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OP NikonMike Senior Member • Posts: 1,354
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Plus that 14-30 is way out of my price range for what I want to invest in a mirrorless system right now. --
Mike

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Jeff DLB
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vbuhay wrote:

I bought the TTartisan 7.5mm f2.0 might take it along to hike up Half Dome in a week.....

here are samples of the TTartisan 7.5 f2.0 fisheye....

I am also thinking of getting this lens. Thanks for the sample images. Do you have any from Yosemite?

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s.seng Regular Member • Posts: 338
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People generally buy crop sensor cameras for their lighter weight (body + lens) and normally not suited for UWA. If you are serious of having UWA lenses go for Z5. There is no point in adding weight by using legacy lenses with FTZ for very little gain in mm but adding lots of carry wt.

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Kirnbichler Regular Member • Posts: 345
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Well, with the Z5 you could use the Laowa 9mm f/5.6, which currently is the widest FF ("FX") rectilinear (that is, non-fisheye) lens on the market. And, according to various tests, it performs quite well.

That said, this is a fully-manual "non-CPU" lens, which has to be taken into consideration.

The widest rectilinear UWA lens for APS-C is, as far as I know, still the Sigma 8-16mm, that has to be used with the FTZ adapter.

This is an AF lens, using a silent and quick HSM ("USM") motor, and on the market since 2010.

8mm seems to be less than 9mm, but as the one is for APS-C and the other is for fullframe, the equivalent FOV is 12mm vs. 9mm. That difference is enormous.

If not the ultimate in UWA is needed, an excellent choice for the Z5 would be the Z 14-30. This native Z lens is as its brethren obscenely sharp and allows the use of screw-in filters due to it's filter thread of ø 82 mm. You'd need ultraslim filters, though, as vignetting occurs otherwise on the widest end.

Neither of the two other lenses have filter thread; Laowa offers a filter holder for square 100 mm filters and there are 3rd-party holders for the Sigma for 150 mm filters.

Regarding weight and size, the absolutely smallest and lightest option is the Laowa 9mm f/5.6  with just 350 g and 62.4 x 66 mm.

The Sigma 8-16mm weighs 555 g, another 135 g has to be added for the FTZ adapter. Size without the FTZ adapter is 75 x 105 mm.

The Z 14-30 weighs 485 g, size is 89 x 85mm.

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