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Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies

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yayatosorus Senior Member • Posts: 2,021
Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies
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Preface:

One of the reasons many of us enjoy using Fujifilm cameras is the access to Film simulations. Unfortunately, Fuji has been reluctant to update older camera models with some of the newer Film simulations, like Nostalgic Negative, which is (as of now) only accessible on GFX cameras. Fortunately, there are a few workarounds, with the most streamlined being (IMO) the Capture One solution.

Before I start, I must note that this only works (as of now) with the latest installment of the software: Capture One 21.

  • If you do not own the paid Pro version, you can always download the free Capture One 21 Express for Fuji.
  • If you're currently using an older version of C1 with a catalog, and wish to concurrently use the older version of C1 alongside C1 21, make sure to back it up before launching C1 21, as you will have to upgrade your catalog in an irreversible manner.

Now that we have sorted out the details, here's how you access Nostalgic Negative on X-trans bodies:

This guide will be divided into 2 sections, to which you should refer depending on the X-Trans generation of the sensor found in your camera.

Section 1: X-TRANS III & IV

First download, install and configure Capture One 21 Pro / Express: https://www.captureone.com/en .

Mac:

Applications -> Capture one ->Capture One (no. of your C1 version).app -> (Right click) ->

Show package contents ->

/Contents/Frameworks/AppCore.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Film Curves

Windows:

Once everything is set and running open the file explorer and follow this path:

C:\Program Files\Capture One\Capture One 21\Film Curves

Once you open the "Film Curves" folder and scroll to the Fuji section, you will notice two types of files, the first having a .P1X and the second a .fcrv filename extension.

Before we continue, let me quickly explain how C1 manages Fuji's "Film curve" profiles.

  • In short, .fcrv files are camera specific files and .P1X are sensor specific files.
    • Since Fuji uses the same sensor across a multitude of models, each Fuji camera model has 1 .fcrv file per film simulation, while each sensor generation has 9 .P1X files per film simulation. This means that while each camera model has its own .fcrv files, there is only one camera model that "manages" the .P1X files for the rest of the models with the same sensor.
  • Here are the cameras that manage P1X files by generation:
    • X-Trans III - X-H1
    • X-Trans IV - X-T3
    • GFX 50MP sensor - GFX50S
    • GFX 100MP sensor - GFX100

Scroll trough the "Film Curves" folder, and select the 9 .P1X files which start with "FujiGFX100-NN" and 1.fcrv files named "FujiGFX100-Fujifilm NOSTALGIC Neg"

And then copy and paste the 10 files to a new folder (on your desktop for example).

At this point you will have to rename the files.

  • Rename the 1 .fcrv file with the SAME PREFIX as the one that is used by YOUR camera model
  • Rename the 9 .P1X files with the SAME PREFIX as the one that is used by the camera model that manages the P1X files for the sensor generation of your camera.
  • If you're not sure about the prefix, scroll trough the "Film Curves" folder to find out the correct naming.
  • For example: In the case of the X-T4, the 1 .fcrv file will start with "FujiXT4" instead of "FujiGFX100" and the 9 .PIX files will start with "FujiXT3" instead of "FujiGFX100"

Once you finish renaming the files, MAKE SURE TO DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHING. Any spelling mistake will result in Nostalgic Negative not working correctly.

After that, select the 10 files you have just renamed and drag then in the "Film Curves" folder.

And you're all set! Launch C1 and enjoy the new film sim.

Section 2: X-TRANS I & II

Capture One does not provide the possibility to change film simulations on models equipped with the X-trans I and X-Trans II sensor. However, by changing the EXIF to camera models that use the X-Trans III or IV sensor, film simulations become available.

First of all, you will need to follow the instructions laid out in the first section of this guide, in order to make an X-Trans III or IV camera compatible with Nostalgic Negative.

Once this is done, you will have to change the camera model present in the EXIF data of your files, so that the camera you chose to be compatible with Nostalgic Negative will appear as the camera that took the picture.

Example: The pictures you wish to edit were taken with an X-T10. You follow the instructions and make the X-T4 compatible with Nostalgic Negative. Once you finish doing that, you will have to rename your files to the X-T4. Once you're done with that, import the files into Capture One and edit them. After you're done with the processing, you can always rename the exported JPGs back to the X-T10.

To edit the EXIF of your files, please follow this guide: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64591767

After the renaming is done, import your files, and you're good to go.

Hope this helps,

Cheers

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OP yayatosorus Senior Member • Posts: 2,021
Re: Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies - Pictures
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Here are a few pics processed with Nostalgic Negative:

Unlike the other simulations, this one is quite warm from the get go. Definitely an interesting addition.

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OrigamiCactus Contributing Member • Posts: 667
Re: Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies - Pictures
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Thank you, worked great for adding the Classic Neg and Nostalgic Neg for my Xpro2.

Beforehand i had to change my Exif data with a commandline based tool, and it was very fiddly, but now i can see the results all from Capture One!

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Dingo789 New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies

this doesnt seem to work with an xt30, actually there is no xt30 specific files at all in the repertory, any idea?

OP yayatosorus Senior Member • Posts: 2,021
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies
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Dingo789 wrote:

this doesnt seem to work with an xt30, actually there is no xt30 specific files at all in the repertory, any idea?

Hi, good catch. It seems the X-T3 manages both the .fcrv and .P1X files for the X-T30, so you'll want to play with those in order to access sims like Eterna bleach bypass on the X-T30.

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Martino Hesse New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies

Would it be possible to do something like this in android lightroom mobile? How?

OP yayatosorus Senior Member • Posts: 2,021
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies

Martino Hesse wrote:

Would it be possible to do something like this in android lightroom mobile? How?

It is possible on PC and Mac, no idea about android. Sorry.

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serdeg
serdeg New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies - Pictures

I did everything as you wrote, but it doesn't work on xs10(

CrashTestHuman Regular Member • Posts: 164
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies
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I'm excited to try this.  Thank you!

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OP yayatosorus Senior Member • Posts: 2,021
Re: Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies - Pictures

serdeg wrote:

I did everything as you wrote, but it doesn't work on xs10(

Do you have Capture One 21?

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CrashTestHuman Regular Member • Posts: 164
Re: Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies - Pictures
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serdeg wrote:

I did everything as you wrote, but it doesn't work on xs10(

I managed to get it to work on CaptureOne Express with my X-S10.

There's definitely a warm cast and greens are shifted a bit yellow, but it does much bigger things to the red end of the spectrum. Magenta becomes a soft red, and red turns orange. Very low contrast as well, half way to Eterna levels. Will be fun to see where I use this. I feel like it'll make for great "golden light" pictures.

Provia

Nostalgic Negative

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serdeg
serdeg New Member • Posts: 3
Re: Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies - Pictures
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Still, I also managed to do it with the x-s10. I don't know where this film can be useful, it is very similar to eterna, but with warmer colors.

Here is my photo taken in the "golden light" with a nostalgic negative superimposed in C1

nostalgic negative, x-s10

capturedinraw43 New Member • Posts: 6
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies

I'm relatively inexperienced with Mac's and when I try this following the file path described I don't get a folder marked film curves only this

I've also tried using the Finder tool to search for the film curve file format and nothing although I do see a Unix Executable file and wondering if it is contained in here and for some reason the file type has become corrupted. Any ideas ? I'm using Capture One 21 version 14.4.0.135.

Would love to be able to use the Nostalgic Negative and Bleach Bypass simulations on my X100V

OrigamiCactus Contributing Member • Posts: 667
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies
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Mac:

Applications -> Capture one ->Capture One (no. of your C1 version).app -> (Right click) ->

Show package contents ->

/Contents/Frameworks/AppCore.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Film Curves

you need to right click on the .app file and inside there are the files.

Im not a mac user, so can't help further, sorry. Maybe the "current" is the file you need to right click?

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capturedinraw43 New Member • Posts: 6
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies

Unfortunately there’s nothing in the current folder either. Bizarre as it’s obviously pulling the curves from somewhere. I’m wondering if the curves are in the unix executable file but no idea how to access

OrigamiCactus Contributing Member • Posts: 667
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies

Is there any .app file anywhere near there? The original poster said that you need to unpack the application, and only then you can see the curves folder and all else.

So try searching for CaptureOne.app or something like that.

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Rightsaidfred
Rightsaidfred Senior Member • Posts: 2,178
Emulating Classic Negative with darktable

It is possible to emulate Classic Negative with darktable.

See my thread https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64697808

Of course it is not the original film sim. I would like to thank those who made the LUTs and provide them to the public. Links are in my post.

Unfortunately, and I noticed that last week, my thread that was intended as a guideline to those who are interested in using darktable has been locked by a mod of the Open Talk forum. He said there were users who had posted uncivil comments. The mod already removed these posts.

Regards,

Martin

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RetiringGuy Contributing Member • Posts: 576
Re: Film Curves Directory Location - Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies
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Right click on C1 app and select Show Package Contents.

Then expand directories to follow the path shown.

RG

capturedinraw43 New Member • Posts: 6
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies

Many thanks this worked 🙏

mkst_ph New Member • Posts: 1
Re: Guide: Accessing Nostalgic Negative on X-Trans bodies
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Not sure if anyone noticed, but for me NN was broken after the latest update (15.2.0.77) on MacOS, as the film curves folder moved to:

Contents > Frameworks > ImageProcessing.framework > Versions > A > Resources > FilmCurves

New FilmCurves folder location

It looks like the Windows version's location is still the same.

Anyway, hope this helps!

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