Tedolph can save Olympus!

bobn2 wrote:

acfo wrote:

tedolf wrote:

victorav wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Now that the dust has settled with the Olympus spin off Tedolph freely gives his plan to Olympus. The plebeians here correctly asses that m4/3 is just not competitive with other larger formats unless it takes advantage of its reduced size potential. Right now this plays out in wildlife photography mostly. Others have noted that Fuji has carved out a niche even without any real advantage in the APS world probably due to the control layout. Leica (and now Nikon) play the retro card and that seems to succeed.

So, here is the plan: Olympus uses the old E-p5 body, takes out the flash and drops in the optical rangefinder from the Voigtlander Bessa rangefinders and makes three lenses with rangefinder cams on the back, the 17mm f/2.8, the 20mm f1.7 and a 42.5mm f1.7. In every other regard it is just the old e-p5 with the EVF accessory port.

Checks all the boxes: Retro, Rangefinder, Compact but still can use all the m4/3 lenses.

Done.

Tedolph

Maybe just stick an evf on the ep5.

They did. It was called the Pen F.

Then they stopped selling it.

Tedolph

Actually, that is a debunked rumor that Olympus stopped selling the Pen F. Olympus never stopped selling the Pen F.

It's not being promoted on OMDS marketing materials, so that's 'stopped selling' after a fashion. I suspect none have been manufactured for a good while, but there are still some in the distribution chain.

I've seen it marked as discontinued though? Left over stock in circulation I guess?

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Fujifilm sold a lot if Instax cameras with a Taylor Smith Special Edition.

OMDS could have a BTS (dancing boy band) Special Edition of the of the E-PL10. 

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victorav wrote:

bobn2 wrote:

acfo wrote:

tedolf wrote:

victorav wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Now that the dust has settled with the Olympus spin off Tedolph freely gives his plan to Olympus. The plebeians here correctly asses that m4/3 is just not competitive with other larger formats unless it takes advantage of its reduced size potential. Right now this plays out in wildlife photography mostly. Others have noted that Fuji has carved out a niche even without any real advantage in the APS world probably due to the control layout. Leica (and now Nikon) play the retro card and that seems to succeed.

So, here is the plan: Olympus uses the old E-p5 body, takes out the flash and drops in the optical rangefinder from the Voigtlander Bessa rangefinders and makes three lenses with rangefinder cams on the back, the 17mm f/2.8, the 20mm f1.7 and a 42.5mm f1.7. In every other regard it is just the old e-p5 with the EVF accessory port.

Checks all the boxes: Retro, Rangefinder, Compact but still can use all the m4/3 lenses.

Done.

Tedolph

Maybe just stick an evf on the ep5.

They did. It was called the Pen F.

Then they stopped selling it.

Tedolph

Actually, that is a debunked rumor that Olympus stopped selling the Pen F. Olympus never stopped selling the Pen F.

It's not being promoted on OMDS marketing materials, so that's 'stopped selling' after a fashion. I suspect none have been manufactured for a good while, but there are still some in the distribution chain.

I've seen it marked as discontinued though? Left over stock in circulation I guess?

I guess vendors mark it as discontinued when they put in an order and get that reply from Olympus/OMDS. If the bit of Olympus/OMDS they are dealing with has some on the shelves, they send them out, and don't give that reply.

tedolf wrote:

victorav wrote:

tedolf wrote:

victorav wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Now that the dust has settled with the Olympus spin off Tedolph freely gives his plan to Olympus. The plebeians here correctly asses that m4/3 is just not competitive with other larger formats unless it takes advantage of its reduced size potential. Right now this plays out in wildlife photography mostly. Others have noted that Fuji has carved out a niche even without any real advantage in the APS world probably due to the control layout. Leica (and now Nikon) play the retro card and that seems to succeed.

So, here is the plan: Olympus uses the old E-p5 body, takes out the flash and drops in the optical rangefinder from the Voigtlander Bessa rangefinders and makes three lenses with rangefinder cams on the back, the 17mm f/2.8, the 20mm f1.7 and a 42.5mm f1.7. In every other regard it is just the old e-p5 with the EVF accessory port.

Checks all the boxes: Retro, Rangefinder, Compact but still can use all the m4/3 lenses.

Done.

Tedolph

Maybe just stick an evf on the ep5.

They did. It was called the Pen F.

Then they stopped selling it.

Tedolph

So why would an ep5 with a rangefinder do better?

Why?

Because it is a rangefinder.

That's not really a reason... More of a description. I'm not sure you can save Olympus.

Get it?

If not ask Leica?

Leica has a history of rangefinders. In fact the digital pen f resembles some early Leica's more so the the film pen f.

Ep5 is a little smaller then the pen f I think.

An updated em5 mkiii with a magnesium alloy body probably would do much better.

Tedolph

Similar to your idea is this one from 14 months ago:

Olympus make an E-P6 like this

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64000498

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64003507

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64020865

An E-P5 sort of camera with a pop-up EVF.

tedolf wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Harold66 wrote:

Having an updated EP5 with built in EVF and no built in flash could be interesting

Ever hear of the Pen F?

So why not say PenF MKII? Anyway, I vote for building on top of the EP7 because it's small (and grips better than a PenF, ironically).

No EVF port=no deal.

you should read my upper propped ep7 model- it has that

but everything else just seem outdated thinking and most of your intake on the other brands a very broad analysis

Harold

Thanks for your insight.

Tedolph

Tedolph

acfo wrote:

tedolf wrote:

victorav wrote:

tedolf wrote:

Now that the dust has settled with the Olympus spin off Tedolph freely gives his plan to Olympus. The plebeians here correctly asses that m4/3 is just not competitive with other larger formats unless it takes advantage of its reduced size potential. Right now this plays out in wildlife photography mostly. Others have noted that Fuji has carved out a niche even without any real advantage in the APS world probably due to the control layout. Leica (and now Nikon) play the retro card and that seems to succeed.

So, here is the plan: Olympus uses the old E-p5 body, takes out the flash and drops in the optical rangefinder from the Voigtlander Bessa rangefinders and makes three lenses with rangefinder cams on the back, the 17mm f/2.8, the 20mm f1.7 and a 42.5mm f1.7. In every other regard it is just the old e-p5 with the EVF accessory port.

Checks all the boxes: Retro, Rangefinder, Compact but still can use all the m4/3 lenses.

Done.

Tedolph

Maybe just stick an evf on the ep5.

They did. It was called the Pen F.

Then they stopped selling it.

Tedolph

Actually, that is a debunked rumor that Olympus stopped selling the Pen F. Olympus never stopped selling the Pen F.

Debunked?  Where and when by who? Its discontinued - even they stopped selling it here new

bobn2 wrote:

It was the second time Olympus has done a faux Pen-F. The first time was the E-3, which had a side flipping mirror and porro-prisms like the original Pen F. It was about twice the size, though.

No, that was the E-300, mine still works but gosh it is huge after using my E-P5 for so long. 8MP of CCD Kodak sensor. Nice results.

The original F had a rotary FP shutter, which didn't cause shake.

Had a Pen FT back years ago, really jewel like camera that none of the digitals has ever managed to successfully copy in style and feel.

The strange thing of course was that it was half frame across the film. So to take landscape shots you held it portrait mode, and to take portrait shots you held it landscape style.

Traded my Pen FT and lenses in on some 6x6 medium format gear and was much happier with the results.

It should help to analyse why Fuji can continue releasing the XE1, 2, 3, and 4, and apparently doing well, compared to M43 equivalents, e.g. GX8, GX9... PEN F, PEN F 11, E-P7...

tedolf wrote:

Now that the dust has settled with the Olympus spin off Tedolph freely gives his plan to Olympus. The plebeians here correctly asses that m4/3 is just not competitive with other larger formats unless it takes advantage of its reduced size potential. Right now this plays out in wildlife photography mostly. Others have noted that Fuji has carved out a niche even without any real advantage in the APS world probably due to the control layout. Leica (and now Nikon) play the retro card and that seems to succeed.

So, here is the plan: Olympus uses the old E-p5 body, takes out the flash and drops in the optical rangefinder from the Voigtlander Bessa rangefinders and makes three lenses with rangefinder cams on the back, the 17mm f/2.8, the 20mm f1.7 and a 42.5mm f1.7. In every other regard it is just the old e-p5 with the EVF accessory port.

Checks all the boxes: Retro, Rangefinder, Compact but still can use all the m4/3 lenses.

Done.

Tedolph

But, sadly (or happily, depending your POV), the patient died of Lack Of Cash, and remains stubbornly dead despite half-hearted attempts by the OM Digital Shamans to infuse new life into the decaying corpse

Good taste and common decency demand that this unseemly caterwauling cease, and that the body be interred as quickly as possible on hygiene grounds

Alexis D wrote:

It should help to analyse why Fuji can continue releasing the XE1, 2, 3, and 4, and apparently doing well, compared to M43 equivalents, e.g. GX8, GX9... PEN F, PEN F 11, E-P7...

Bigger sensor makes people feel more comfortable with their purchase