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yayatosorus Senior Member • Posts: 2,014
Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

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thunder storm Forum Pro • Posts: 10,139
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

Let's do the "is it adequate or not?"-debate again. 

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Guus54 Regular Member • Posts: 268
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

But what it is only a test cam?

When th R5 was in test fase, there were several different sensor sizes who been tested.

Why do we see only files of 1 test shooter only? there are more on the games.

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dmanthree
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Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

thunder storm wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

Let's do the "is it adequate or not?"-debate again.

Too late. The debate rages on via the comments section that follow the news story.

Oh, and don't forget the "what about "brand X"" debate. Can't miss that opportunity.

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dmanthree
dmanthree Forum Pro • Posts: 10,302
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

Guus54 wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

But what it is only a test cam?

When th R5 was in test fase, there were several different sensor sizes who been tested.

Why do we see only files of 1 test shooter only? there are more on the games.

I truly doubt that Canon would still be testing sensors at this very late stage. And what pro would trust a cam that didn't have final firmware and sensor at this event?

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Its what the target audience wanted

Its not a landscape camera or camera for us amateurs.

I already have the R5.

Thomas A Anderson Senior Member • Posts: 1,360
This is not a test.

dmanthree wrote:

Guus54 wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

But what it is only a test cam?

When th R5 was in test fase, there were several different sensor sizes who been tested.

Why do we see only files of 1 test shooter only? there are more on the games.

I truly doubt that Canon would still be testing sensors at this very late stage. And what pro would trust a cam that didn't have final firmware and sensor at this event?

These are almost certainly production camera bodies with pre-production firmware.  Different sensors are used in the prototype phase, and as soon as the bodies went out the door to non-Canon employees the only thing left to finalize was the firmware.

Follow me for a second:  the only way to finalize the firmware is to have final hardware, so once the hardware is nailed down the final stages of firmware development can begin, and since firmware takes real-world practice to shake out all of the bugs (or the vast majority) then the best way to beta test the firmware is to....well, actually beta test the firmware.

All of these people wishing on a star that the sensor will be more than 24MP are actively choosing to ignore facts and reason.  More importantly, I wonder why this is such a problem.  Seriously, what's wrong with 24MP?  What if rolling shutter is essentially gone?  What if DR has increased?  There are other very important metrics by which to measure the usefulness of a sensor than just its number of pixels.

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BlueRay2 Forum Pro • Posts: 14,816
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

thunder storm wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

Let's do the "is it adequate or not?"-debate again.

adequate is a state of mind but if true, 24mp is not near enough for me, even 30mp would be a good start. it could be sufficient for many but not for me now that i am used to 53mp of my 5DsR. 5DsR is a dream come true for me.

now R5 is decent enough for me, also, depends on what transpire with R3. i think canon is playing psyop with us here, psyching us to accept the measly 24mp sensor. i'll be waiting for R1, which i am sure will be a high rez camera but for a price! i think there are a lot more wedding, fashion, and enthusiasts that will go for a flagship high res camera than the 24mp rez camera.

i know there are some that strongly appose my perspective and flame me but i hope they stop shouting and stay on the main point of the argument and be rational. and i also believe we all look at this issue based on our own point of view so here we go

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Guus54 Regular Member • Posts: 268
Re: This is not a test.

Thomas A Anderson wrote:

dmanthree wrote:

Guus54 wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

But what it is only a test cam?

When th R5 was in test fase, there were several different sensor sizes who been tested.

Why do we see only files of 1 test shooter only? there are more on the games.

I truly doubt that Canon would still be testing sensors at this very late stage. And what pro would trust a cam that didn't have final firmware and sensor at this event?

These are almost certainly production camera bodies with pre-production firmware. Different sensors are used in the prototype phase, and as soon as the bodies went out the door to non-Canon employees the only thing left to finalize was the firmware.

Follow me for a second: the only way to finalize the firmware is to have final hardware, so once the hardware is nailed down the final stages of firmware development can begin, and since firmware takes real-world practice to shake out all of the bugs (or the vast majority) then the best way to beta test the firmware is to....well, actually beta test the firmware.

All of these people wishing on a star that the sensor will be more than 24MP are actively choosing to ignore facts and reason. More importantly, I wonder why this is such a problem. Seriously, what's wrong with 24MP? What if rolling shutter is essentially gone? What if DR has increased? There are other very important metrics by which to measure the usefulness of a sensor than just its number of pixels.

You could be right, but what me to intrigue the most is the exact pixel 4000x6000.

so if I look to the past MP you see never round numbers.

1d mk3 3888x2592

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV 4896 x 3264

Canon EOS-1D X 5184 x 3456

Canon EOS-1D X Mark II 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS-1D X Mark III 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS 5D Mark IV 6720 x 4480

Canon EOS R5 8192 x 5464

Canon EOS R 6720 x 4480

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Dan W Senior Member • Posts: 1,154
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

Sigh...

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dmanthree
dmanthree Forum Pro • Posts: 10,302
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

Dan W wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

Sigh...

What? You were hoping for that 100M APS-H sensor?

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Dan W Senior Member • Posts: 1,154
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

dmanthree wrote:

Dan W wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

Sigh...

What? You were hoping for that 100M APS-H sensor?

lol no, Just a sigh because the OP posts about DP Review confirming something on DP Review...

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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,127
Re: This is not a test.

Guus54 wrote:

Thomas A Anderson wrote:

dmanthree wrote:

Guus54 wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

But what it is only a test cam?

When th R5 was in test fase, there were several different sensor sizes who been tested.

Why do we see only files of 1 test shooter only? there are more on the games.

I truly doubt that Canon would still be testing sensors at this very late stage. And what pro would trust a cam that didn't have final firmware and sensor at this event?

These are almost certainly production camera bodies with pre-production firmware. Different sensors are used in the prototype phase, and as soon as the bodies went out the door to non-Canon employees the only thing left to finalize was the firmware.

Follow me for a second: the only way to finalize the firmware is to have final hardware, so once the hardware is nailed down the final stages of firmware development can begin, and since firmware takes real-world practice to shake out all of the bugs (or the vast majority) then the best way to beta test the firmware is to....well, actually beta test the firmware.

All of these people wishing on a star that the sensor will be more than 24MP are actively choosing to ignore facts and reason. More importantly, I wonder why this is such a problem. Seriously, what's wrong with 24MP? What if rolling shutter is essentially gone? What if DR has increased? There are other very important metrics by which to measure the usefulness of a sensor than just its number of pixels.

You could be right, but what me to intrigue the most is the exact pixel 4000x6000.

so if I look to the past MP you see never round numbers.

1d mk3 3888x2592

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV 4896 x 3264

Canon EOS-1D X 5184 x 3456

Canon EOS-1D X Mark II 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS-1D X Mark III 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS 5D Mark IV 6720 x 4480

Canon EOS R5 8192 x 5464

Canon EOS R 6720 x 4480

If I recall correctly my old 80d produced 4000x6000 pixel files.

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richard cohen Senior Member • Posts: 1,627
Confirms that for me the R5 is good enough....

For my wildlife shooting I've switched from nikon to the r5 (and now an r6 as a second body)...I like having the resolution of the r5 (just as I did when shooting the d850) for cropping of long distance subjects. While for a lot of things 24mp is plenty, the lower resolution of the r3 tradeoff vs higher speed isn't worth it for me. Heck I shoot the r5 most of the time in mech shutter to slow it down to 12 fps....For pros I get it, but for me 12 or 20 fps with the superb tracking of the r5/r6 is good enough...and given the big price of the r3 I can have both of the lesser canon bodies for less than the cost of one r3. I'm standing pat....although I am curious about the z9...

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Re: This is not a test.

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Guus54 wrote:

Thomas A Anderson wrote:

dmanthree wrote:

Guus54 wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

But what it is only a test cam?

When th R5 was in test fase, there were several different sensor sizes who been tested.

Why do we see only files of 1 test shooter only? there are more on the games.

I truly doubt that Canon would still be testing sensors at this very late stage. And what pro would trust a cam that didn't have final firmware and sensor at this event?

These are almost certainly production camera bodies with pre-production firmware. Different sensors are used in the prototype phase, and as soon as the bodies went out the door to non-Canon employees the only thing left to finalize was the firmware.

Follow me for a second: the only way to finalize the firmware is to have final hardware, so once the hardware is nailed down the final stages of firmware development can begin, and since firmware takes real-world practice to shake out all of the bugs (or the vast majority) then the best way to beta test the firmware is to....well, actually beta test the firmware.

All of these people wishing on a star that the sensor will be more than 24MP are actively choosing to ignore facts and reason. More importantly, I wonder why this is such a problem. Seriously, what's wrong with 24MP? What if rolling shutter is essentially gone? What if DR has increased? There are other very important metrics by which to measure the usefulness of a sensor than just its number of pixels.

You could be right, but what me to intrigue the most is the exact pixel 4000x6000.

so if I look to the past MP you see never round numbers.

1d mk3 3888x2592

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV 4896 x 3264

Canon EOS-1D X 5184 x 3456

Canon EOS-1D X Mark II 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS-1D X Mark III 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS 5D Mark IV 6720 x 4480

Canon EOS R5 8192 x 5464

Canon EOS R 6720 x 4480

If I recall correctly my old 80d produced 4000x6000 pixel files.

Yes, the same with M6, M5, and all the other 24MP cameras.

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Guus54 Regular Member • Posts: 268
Re: This is not a test.

Alastair Norcross wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Guus54 wrote:

Thomas A Anderson wrote:

dmanthree wrote:

Guus54 wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

But what it is only a test cam?

When th R5 was in test fase, there were several different sensor sizes who been tested.

Why do we see only files of 1 test shooter only? there are more on the games.

I truly doubt that Canon would still be testing sensors at this very late stage. And what pro would trust a cam that didn't have final firmware and sensor at this event?

These are almost certainly production camera bodies with pre-production firmware. Different sensors are used in the prototype phase, and as soon as the bodies went out the door to non-Canon employees the only thing left to finalize was the firmware.

Follow me for a second: the only way to finalize the firmware is to have final hardware, so once the hardware is nailed down the final stages of firmware development can begin, and since firmware takes real-world practice to shake out all of the bugs (or the vast majority) then the best way to beta test the firmware is to....well, actually beta test the firmware.

All of these people wishing on a star that the sensor will be more than 24MP are actively choosing to ignore facts and reason. More importantly, I wonder why this is such a problem. Seriously, what's wrong with 24MP? What if rolling shutter is essentially gone? What if DR has increased? There are other very important metrics by which to measure the usefulness of a sensor than just its number of pixels.

You could be right, but what me to intrigue the most is the exact pixel 4000x6000.

so if I look to the past MP you see never round numbers.

1d mk3 3888x2592

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV 4896 x 3264

Canon EOS-1D X 5184 x 3456

Canon EOS-1D X Mark II 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS-1D X Mark III 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS 5D Mark IV 6720 x 4480

Canon EOS R5 8192 x 5464

Canon EOS R 6720 x 4480

If I recall correctly my old 80d produced 4000x6000 pixel files.

Yes, the same with M6, M5, and all the other 24MP cameras.

Yes and non of them prof cam's

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OP yayatosorus Senior Member • Posts: 2,014
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

Dan W wrote:

dmanthree wrote:

Dan W wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

Sigh...

What? You were hoping for that 100M APS-H sensor?

lol no, Just a sigh because the OP posts about DP Review confirming something on DP Review...

And where's the problem with that?

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ilumo Regular Member • Posts: 384
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

Guys. Accept it. R3 is only 24 mp. Canon probably doesn’t have the tech to increase bandwidth to process more megapixels at this FPS. R1 on the other hand when it comes out will probably be 50 mp+. Assuming they want to go head to head with z9/A1.

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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,127
Re: This is not a test.

Guus54 wrote:

Alastair Norcross wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

Guus54 wrote:

Thomas A Anderson wrote:

dmanthree wrote:

Guus54 wrote:

yayatosorus wrote:

According to DP Review , the R3 will indeed feature a 24 megapixel sensor.

But what it is only a test cam?

When th R5 was in test fase, there were several different sensor sizes who been tested.

Why do we see only files of 1 test shooter only? there are more on the games.

I truly doubt that Canon would still be testing sensors at this very late stage. And what pro would trust a cam that didn't have final firmware and sensor at this event?

These are almost certainly production camera bodies with pre-production firmware. Different sensors are used in the prototype phase, and as soon as the bodies went out the door to non-Canon employees the only thing left to finalize was the firmware.

Follow me for a second: the only way to finalize the firmware is to have final hardware, so once the hardware is nailed down the final stages of firmware development can begin, and since firmware takes real-world practice to shake out all of the bugs (or the vast majority) then the best way to beta test the firmware is to....well, actually beta test the firmware.

All of these people wishing on a star that the sensor will be more than 24MP are actively choosing to ignore facts and reason. More importantly, I wonder why this is such a problem. Seriously, what's wrong with 24MP? What if rolling shutter is essentially gone? What if DR has increased? There are other very important metrics by which to measure the usefulness of a sensor than just its number of pixels.

You could be right, but what me to intrigue the most is the exact pixel 4000x6000.

so if I look to the past MP you see never round numbers.

1d mk3 3888x2592

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV 4896 x 3264

Canon EOS-1D X 5184 x 3456

Canon EOS-1D X Mark II 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS-1D X Mark III 5472 x 3648

Canon EOS 5D Mark IV 6720 x 4480

Canon EOS R5 8192 x 5464

Canon EOS R 6720 x 4480

If I recall correctly my old 80d produced 4000x6000 pixel files.

Yes, the same with M6, M5, and all the other 24MP cameras.

Yes and non of them prof cam's

And?

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bernie r Contributing Member • Posts: 536
Re: Confirmed: The R3 will have a 24 MP sensor.

I can hear already the Sony fanboys saying, 'haha, my A1 does 30 fps with 50mp, R3 had to switch to 24mp to make it work, Canon sucks', or something along those lines.

I however, doing wildlife and portraiture mostly have absolutely no interest in the R3 over my R5. I'm sure it'll be a great camera for sports but I couldn't go back down to 24mp.

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