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Started Jul 26, 2021 | Questions
OP Dark slide Contributing Member • Posts: 972
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OP Dark slide Contributing Member • Posts: 972
Successful file transfer

46 photos random. Connected SD1M to my pc and switched the camera on. Windows produced an immediate message there is a fault with the connected drive. Do I want Windows to correct the fault?

No knowing what that might do so ignored. 10 minutes later 46 files successfully transferred and available to Faststone.

And none had any photographic merit.

Ceistinne
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Re: Successful file transfer
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Dark slide wrote:

46 photos random. Connected SD1M to my pc and switched the camera on. Windows produced an immediate message there is a fault with the connected drive. Do I want Windows to correct the fault?

No knowing what that might do so ignored. 10 minutes later 46 files successfully transferred and available to Faststone.

And none had any photographic merit.

Dark slide,

I think you would be better off using a card reader to transfer the files from the card to your computer. I have never thought that connecting the camera directly to the computer to be a good practice.

S

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D Cox Forum Pro • Posts: 32,979
Re: Successful file transfer
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Ceistinne wrote:

Dark slide wrote:

46 photos random. Connected SD1M to my pc and switched the camera on. Windows produced an immediate message there is a fault with the connected drive. Do I want Windows to correct the fault?

No knowing what that might do so ignored. 10 minutes later 46 files successfully transferred and available to Faststone.

And none had any photographic merit.

Dark slide,

I think you would be better off using a card reader to transfer the files from the card to your computer. I have never thought that connecting the camera directly to the computer to be a good practice.

S

I agree.

Don

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Re: Successful file transfer
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D Cox wrote:

Ceistinne wrote:

Dark slide wrote:

46 photos random. Connected SD1M to my pc and switched the camera on. Windows produced an immediate message there is a fault with the connected drive. Do I want Windows to correct the fault?

No knowing what that might do so ignored. 10 minutes later 46 files successfully transferred and available to Faststone.

And none had any photographic merit.

Dark slide,

I think you would be better off using a card reader to transfer the files from the card to your computer. I have never thought that connecting the camera directly to the computer to be a good practice.

S

I agree.

Don

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xpatUSA
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Re: Successful file transfer

SigmaChrome wrote:

D Cox wrote:

Ceistinne wrote:

Dark slide wrote:

46 photos random. Connected SD1M to my pc and switched the camera on. Windows produced an immediate message there is a fault with the connected drive. Do I want Windows to correct the fault?

No knowing what that might do so ignored. 10 minutes later 46 files successfully transferred and available to Faststone.

And none had any photographic merit.

Dark slide,

I think you would be better off using a card reader to transfer the files from the card to your computer. I have never thought that connecting the camera directly to the computer to be a good practice.

S

I agree.

Don

Me three!

Me too.

I also "eject" the card before removing it (Win 7, right-click on card, select Eject).

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Scottelly
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Re: Successful file transfer

xpatUSA wrote:

SigmaChrome wrote:

D Cox wrote:

Ceistinne wrote:

Dark slide wrote:

46 photos random. Connected SD1M to my pc and switched the camera on. Windows produced an immediate message there is a fault with the connected drive. Do I want Windows to correct the fault?

No knowing what that might do so ignored. 10 minutes later 46 files successfully transferred and available to Faststone.

And none had any photographic merit.

Dark slide,

I think you would be better off using a card reader to transfer the files from the card to your computer. I have never thought that connecting the camera directly to the computer to be a good practice.

S

I agree.

Don

Me three!

Me too.

I also "eject" the card before removing it (Win 7, right-click on card, select Eject).

Me five! I got a USB 3 card reader, so I could read my newer, super-fast CF cards quickly with my 2015 Mac Mini. It is a multi-card reader, and can read micro-SD cards, SD cards, CF cards, and a variety of other cards simultaneously. It also is a port replicator, so it has three USB 3 ports too, making one into three, and adding memory card reading capability to my Mac Mini, which only has an SD card reader on the back. I love this card reader. I haven't had any problems with it. A light comes on, when I put a memory card in it. I've used it with my old MacBook Air too, and it works perfectly with that computer too. I haven't tried it on a Windows machine yet, but I'm contemplating the purchase of an old HP Z840 workstation with Windows 10 Pro on it. If I get that, I'll try it with that machine too, and report back here about using various versions of SPP with that card reader and various hard drives and external SSD's on that machine.

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Scottelly
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Re: SD1M card errors.

xpatUSA wrote:

Scottelly wrote:

Dark slide wrote:

Began downloading images to my PC, at #27 message the file is corrupted. Retry and the message changes to card corrupted via the SD1M rear screen. Third try a Card Error message on the SD1M. Is there a route out of this or do I need a new SD-card?

Could you try a different adapter? Maybe it's your CF to SD card adapter that is the problem.

I think "SD-card" was a typo, Scott.

I figured everyone was assuming that, but I thought it made more sense to assume he was using a CF to SD adapter in his SD1 Merrill, since he did write SD-card, and not CF-card. It turns out you are right though Ted.

I'm still wondering how the error could happen. I mean 26 files seem to have transferred perfectly fine. It seems so weird that they would start transferring at all, if there is a problem with the card.

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OP Dark slide Contributing Member • Posts: 972
Love-in dissent
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I've never used a card reader and not had a problem till yesterday with file transfer. The SD1M manual (p126) describes how to connect the supplied USB to a computer.

One factor that might have caused the card failure is that I did not use the camera for several months and did not charge the battery, in those circumstances the battery should be removed.

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Re: Love-in dissent
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Dark slide wrote:

I've never used a card reader and not had a problem till yesterday with file transfer. The SD1M manual (p126) describes how to connect the supplied USB to a computer.

You might be missing the point of using a card-reader.

The less involved Sigma software is in transferring your precious image data from the camera to the computer the better - by which I mean the in-camera firmware and whatever version of SPP you're using.

But, if you really, really trust Sigma's programmers, by all means go ahead and the best of luck!

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Re: Love-in dissent

xpatUSA wrote:

Dark slide wrote:

I've never used a card reader and not had a problem till yesterday with file transfer. The SD1M manual (p126) describes how to connect the supplied USB to a computer.

You might be missing the point of using a card-reader.

The less involved Sigma software is in transferring your precious image data from the camera to the computer the better - by which I mean the in-camera firmware and whatever version of SPP you're using.

But, if you really, really trust Sigma's programmers, by all means go ahead and the best of luck!

And then there's the fact that the card reads so slowly. In my USB 3 card reader a fast CF card is almost like having an external hard drive plugged into the computer. In the SD1 Merrill, the files come out of the CF card at less than 1/4 of the speed, like when I plug in my CF cards into my 15 year old USB 1 CF card reader. It's just so lethargic. I decided to do a test. Unfortunately I can't show you the results, because while I have plenty of old mini-USB cables (my oldest external hard drives, an old Canon camera, my rechargeable flashlight and rechargeable tail light for my bike, and my two old memory card readers use those), micro-USB cables (some of my old cell phones and battery chargers use those), and USB 3 cables (my new memory card reader, SD Quattro H, and external hard drives use those), I can't find one of those weird cables that Sigma decided to use for the SD1 Merrill. I think my Olympus point-and-shoot used one of those weird cables too. Why did they do that?!?

I'm going to be really happy when the day finally comes that every device has a USB-C plug and only requires a USB-C cable (phones, cameras, battery chargers, card readers, etc.).

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Re: Love-in dissent
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Dark slide wrote:

I've never used a card reader and not had a problem till yesterday with file transfer. The SD1M manual (p126) describes how to connect the supplied USB to a computer.

One factor that might have caused the card failure is that I did not use the camera for several months and did not charge the battery, in those circumstances the battery should be removed.

Dark slide.  And to think I do cryptic crosswords, yet the title for this post eludes me

Nowhere in this thread do you state just what you do to transfer images from your camera to the computer. - Yes, a passing remark about a databank you have, but... In this post you have graced us with what you don't do. But would it be reasonable to assume you do actually connect the camera via USB cable?

Tell you what, do you think it's relevant to provide this information - about how you transfer images, I mean? There are lots of stabbing-in-the-dark responses, but the whole thread is painful to read as a result. - Rather like spaghetti running through your fingers.

Now, don't say that I don't give rewards and just chide. Here's what I do:

1) When finished photography, switch OFF the camera and remove the storage media (CF or SD card).

2) Place card into card reader - for the last 10 years a USB3 capable such - and connect to USB3 port on computer.

3) Examine the new X3F files using FastStone and select those for transfer to computer.

4) Copy selected files to chosen location on computer.

This results in 1 file-per-second transfer rate, contrasted against 1 file-per-10 seconds when using camera-by-cable-to-computer over USB2. - BUT, I know speeds vary, with devises, so don't take these speeds as final.

Good luck with the rest.

atom14.

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Re: Love-in dissent

Hi Atom, the problem with a post and it's sequence is things can go out of logical progression. Until I read the remarks about card readers I assumed everyone connected their Sigma to a computer via the provided USB cable as cited in Sigma manuals.

My original post about a corrupted CF card resolved by finding trying it again the next day showed no practical problem even though Windows suggested there was. Since several people had offered suggestions I thought I would draw the thread to a close with the happy result the card is back in use. Then card readers returned with 5 members saying they are a good idea.

They may well be but re the original post the issue is resolved. As a practical alternative re corrupted files copying to computer via a card reader may help with use of recovery software but that is for another day. From my end the thread makes perfect sense.

The question what corrupted the card and how do I stop it happening again is also for another day.

xpatUSA
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Re: Love-in dissent

Dark slide wrote:

... I assumed everyone connected their Sigma to a computer via the provided USB cable as cited in Sigma manuals. ...

By coincidence, my first post in this forum years ago was after following those very same instructions for a newly-acquired SD9. No data transfer whatsoever. Solution was ... guess what ...

So, following the manual may not always be as appropriate as you seem to believe.

Still, good luck with it.

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Re: Love-in dissent

Thanks for your reply, Dark slide. I'm glad it's resolved.

I have occasionally got a Windows message saying that a card was unformatted and suggesting it do a format right there and then. Of course I have not done such a format, but I cannot remember any more details of the incidents - like, a couple of them over the last couple of years.

atom14.

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Re: Love-in dissent

atom14 wrote:

Dark slide wrote:

I've never used a card reader and not had a problem till yesterday with file transfer. The SD1M manual (p126) describes how to connect the supplied USB to a computer.

One factor that might have caused the card failure is that I did not use the camera for several months and did not charge the battery, in those circumstances the battery should be removed.

Dark slide. And to think I do cryptic crosswords, yet the title for this post eludes me

Nowhere in this thread do you state just what you do to transfer images from your camera to the computer. - Yes, a passing remark about a databank you have, but... In this post you have graced us with what you don't do. But would it be reasonable to assume you do actually connect the camera via USB cable?

Tell you what, do you think it's relevant to provide this information - about how you transfer images, I mean? There are lots of stabbing-in-the-dark responses, but the whole thread is painful to read as a result. - Rather like spaghetti running through your fingers.

Now, don't say that I don't give rewards and just chide. Here's what I do:

1) When finished photography, switch OFF the camera and remove the storage media (CF or SD card).

2) Place card into card reader - for the last 10 years a USB3 capable such - and connect to USB3 port on computer.

3) Examine the new X3F files using FastStone and select those for transfer to computer.

4) Copy selected files to chosen location on computer.

This results in 1 file-per-second transfer rate, contrasted against 1 file-per-10 seconds when using camera-by-cable-to-computer over USB2. - BUT, I know speeds vary, with devises, so don't take these speeds as final.

I do the same except that I copy the lot to the computer (in fact to a USB external drive) rather than selecting.

In my opinion the best program for file and directory management is Total Commander. The Windows interface for  this kind of work is a mess.

Don Cox

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atom14
atom14 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,301
Re: Love-in dissent

Quite so, Don. I should specify that on first looking at the files with FastStone I do not copy those that are badly blurred or OOF.

Ellinor William Regular Member • Posts: 143
Re: SD1M card errors.

SD card corruptions are common in case of cameras and other digital devices. As a result, you might end up losing your photos, which you might have clicked using your camera.

Try inserting the card to a different device, and clear the cached data. You can also use command prompt and perform chkdsk m: /r operation to fix the corrupt SD card and resolve the issue. If these options are not satisfying, then you may need a different card. And, if you want to recover the data from that card then you can use a photo recovery software like Stellar or Recoverit.

OP Dark slide Contributing Member • Posts: 972
Re: SD1M card errors.

Thank you for your useful suggestions. I opted to try a different card in the camera. No problem. I have used the "problem card" three times since and had no problem.

What is annoying is that the camera gave no indication there was an issue, file saving was taking the usual time as shown by the "busy light" on the back of the camera.

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