FTZ adapters other than Nikon's?

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RafaelD7
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FTZ adapters other than Nikon's?

I was shocked to see the price of Nikon's FTZ adapter and i wonder if there are any third-party ones that work well?

Thanks!

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Re: FTZ adapters other than Nikon's?
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Bought as part of a kit the FTZ can cost as little as £/$ 100.

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Re: FTZ adapters other than Nikon's?

$250 in the USA...

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Kirnbichler Regular Member • Posts: 449
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There are much cheaper adapters, but these render every attached lens a "non-CPU" lens, thus no AF, no VR and no aperture controlled by the camera. Lenses without an aperture ring are virtually useless in that case.

The FTZ adapter contains electronics circuitry that convert from the F mount lens protocol to the Z mount lens protocol and a stepper motor driven by that circuitry which operates the aperture lever present on all lenses that don't have electronically operated aperture mechanisms.

Other adapters that contain mount protocol conversion electronics are more expensive than the FTZ, as the Fringer Canon EF, the Techart Canon EF and the Techart Sony E adapters. Even more expensive is the Techart Leica AF adapter that contains an AF mechanism.

If you have really old Nikon lenses that are "non-CPU" lenses (thus having no electronical contacts) then you'll get the same results with one of the cheap non-electronic adapters, and you can even broaden the range, as such adapters also exist for other lens mounts such as M42, Pentax K, Canon FD or even medium format variants like Mamiya 645.

But in all these cases you have to manually enter the lens' focal length via the "non-CPU" function (which only accepts focal lengths produced by Nikon, so you have to round up or down if using a focal length of, say 150 or 11 mm). You should do so for sake of the IBIS mechanism, so that you get stabilization even with 50 years old manual lenses.

On Nikon DSLRs this is impossible, since they don't have IBIS.

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In the US, as part of a kit…
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$100

As previously mentioned, not just a mechanical coupling. They work very, very well, and are key to making F lens, Nikon and third party,  work properly. Would highly recommend buying only Nikon’s OEM ftz adapter.

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Re: In the US, as part of a kit…
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I am aware of the discounted price if you buy it as a bundled kit with the camera. Unfortunately, no such option exists (yet) for the Z fc camera. Just thinking ahead.

I do have a couple of lenses that are not only fully manual, they do not have any electronics to communicate with the camera. For those, the cheaper adapter would be fine.

Thanks anyway.

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bmoag Veteran Member • Posts: 3,140
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I have an FTZ adapter, purchased with the camera so less painful.

I agree with the OP that the retail price is insane given its one-size-fits-few ergonomics and limited functionality.

The lens mount on full frame Nikon dSLRs does far more and, despite the blather put out by Nikon, could easily have been incorporated into an adapter, motor and all. As well as full compatibility with non-Nikon F mount lenses.

Never gonna happen now.

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Re: FTZ adapters other than Nikon's?

RafaelD7 wrote:

I was shocked to see the price of Nikon's FTZ adapter and i wonder if there are any third-party ones that work well?

Thanks!

If you don't need the electronic coupling, eg when using a 'dumb' pre AI, AI or Ais manual focus lens, this one will probably do

https://www.kentfaith.com/lens-mount-adapters/nikon-lens-adapter/KF06.372_nikon-f-lenses-to-nikon-z-mount-camera-adapter

Costs a lot less then a FTZ

I o.a. have a (Canon) FL/FD to Z adapter, works fine, built quality also is fine as well

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In the past the FTZ has been known to be thrown in as a freebie. Look around.

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EVERY vendor I tried (including NikonUSA) offers the FTZ for $99 when it and the Z fc are added to the cart. I just can't think of a reason not to buy the FTZ with a Z body. There just aren't enough lenses for the Z system yet. I've purchased several Z bodies and added the FTZ EVERY time. Get it for $99, sell it for $200 on ebay, and make $90 after fees.

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Alchin Senior Member • Posts: 1,283
Re: In the US, as part of a kit…

Unfortunately only Nikon web site offer the FTZ for $99.99 when you buy a new camera. You would have to buy your Zfc from Nikon web site. They will bill you for the full list price but refund the difference when you get your New Camera.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/lens-mount-adapter/mount-adapter-ftz.html

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bmoag wrote:

I have an FTZ adapter, purchased with the camera so less painful.

I agree with the OP that the retail price is insane given its one-size-fits-few ergonomics and limited functionality.

The lens mount on full frame Nikon dSLRs does far more and, despite the blather put out by Nikon, could easily have been incorporated into an adapter, motor and all. As well as full compatibility with non-Nikon F mount lenses.

Presumably, if it were to be produced, it would be even more expensive - and the added functionality would only be of use to a subset of Z owners.

Never gonna happen now.

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skyrunr wrote:

EVERY vendor I tried (including NikonUSA) offers the FTZ for $99 when it and the Z fc are added to the cart.

Did you try B and H? I do not see that option on their site. Can you mention one vendor that offers this?

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Adorama does offer the adapter for $97 if included with the order.

Edit: So does BandH.

I should have looked closer!

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RafaelD7 wrote:

I was shocked to see the price of Nikon's FTZ adapter and i wonder if there are any third-party ones that work well?

Thanks!

If you are willing to go manual focus (the Z cameras have great manual focus support), I am very happy with the Kipon NIK-N/Z. It gave new life to my third-party manual-focus lenses. I even had fun using it with some of my autofocus Nikon lenses. The Kipon NIK-N/Z is solidly-built and is more economical than getting a second FTZ.

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RafaelD7 wrote:

I was shocked to see the price of Nikon's FTZ adapter and i wonder if there are any third-party ones that work well?

Thanks!

I agree that the FTZ adapter is to expensive at the regular price.

I choose the the two lens kit for my Z50, which means I didn't get the discount.

For my old manual Nikkor lenses I bought a simple adapter from Urth for about 30 euros. Its well made and feels firm. For cameras that doesn't have IBIS, there is little or no point getting the FTZ if the lenses have manual focus. You get the exif right (I think) but it is also bigger with the tripod mount, and heavier.

Here you can se how the Urth adapter looks with the 35 2.0 AI:

A sample image:

And here is the adapter with the 85 2.0 AI:

Sample:

I will keep a look out for a discount on the FTZ, but I want it for my modern AF-S Nikon F-lenses, not the old MF Nikkors.

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UPDATE: Got the discounted price at BandH
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I was able to modify my preorder of the Nikon Z fc with the 16-50 kit lens to include the adapter at $99.

Thank you very much to all who provided information. I may still go ahead and buy an inexpensive, non-electronic adapter for my manual lenses, as it is smaller than the Nikon.

Can't wait to get the camera! I will be a regular visitor to this forum.

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Re: UPDATE: Got the discounted price at BandH

Sorry for the misinformation but in the early day of preorder it was only available from Nikon web site. I even checked with B&H customer service.

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No problem. It was not easy to find in BandH's site. Hidden under Accessories, then Bundles. And, even though the bundle option lists it for $99, when I selected it and added it to the order it showed up at full price. I had to contact Customer Service and they reassured me I was only going to be charged $99.

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bmoag wrote:

despite the blather put out by Nikon, could easily have been incorporated into an adapter, motor and all.

No, it would not be easy...

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