Sony Alpha 1, SEL 200-600 or Canon R5, RF 100-500

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thomeven New Member • Posts: 15
Sony Alpha 1, SEL 200-600 or Canon R5, RF 100-500
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This is most likely asked before, but I have to decide within a few days which combo to go for.. The money is about equal, since the A1 is more expensive than Canon R5. Today I have the A9ii with the 200-600mm. I am going more into bird photography and both combinations is excellent for BIF, but they are also somewhat different.. I have been a long time Sony shooter, but also owned Canon gear some years ago.

Does anyone have some facts to consider helping med to decide.. I would probably be happy with both combos, and AF, eye AF and IQ is probably the most important for me. Something tells me to stay Sony, but I am not sure..

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BlueJakester
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You realize this is the Sony forum, right?

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Colorado Snowman
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Since the "this is the Sony forum" cat is already out of the bag...

I have no experience with Canon, but I vote for the Sony combo big time!

Here is a photo I took with that combo plus my 1.4 TC about 90 minutes ago. I know, it is not a BIF, but it was way up high in a tree, and handheld, and...

Please blame my lack of skills for any weaknesses in the photo.  Maybe a tad soft if you pixel peep.

Great Horned Owl.

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michoristo Regular Member • Posts: 249
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As a Canon shooter, if I had the choice between both, I would get the A1.  It is a more rounded camera.  Maybe the next round of Canons will have something comparable.

BlueJakester
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Colorado Snowman wrote:

Since the "this is the Sony forum" cat is already out of the bag...

I have no experience with Canon, but I vote for the Sony combo big time!

Here is a photo I took with that combo plus my 1.4 TC about 90 minutes ago. I know, it is not a BIF, but it was way up high in a tree, and handheld, and...

Please blame my lack of skills for any weaknesses in the photo. Maybe a tad soft if you pixel peep.

Great Horned Owl.

Beautiful image! Nice shooting!

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LarryRC Senior Member • Posts: 1,066
Re: Sony Alpha 1, SEL 200-600 or Canon R5, RF 100-500
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thomeven wrote:

This is most likely asked before, but I have to decide within a few days which combo to go for.. The money is about equal, since the A1 is more expensive than Canon R5. Today I have the A9ii with the 200-600mm. I am going more into bird photography and both combinations is excellent for BIF, but they are also somewhat different.. I have been a long time Sony shooter, but also owned Canon gear some years ago.

Does anyone have some facts to consider helping med to decide.. I would probably be happy with both combos, and AF, eye AF and IQ is probably the most important for me. Something tells me to stay Sony, but I am not sure..

For me BIF is often reach.  The sony has a higher pixel count and the sony lens at 600 also offers more reach.  The combination adds up.

In addition the sony 200-600 is faster at 600 then the canon at 500.

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LarryRC Senior Member • Posts: 1,066
Re: Sony Alpha 1, SEL 200-600 or Canon R5, RF 100-500

Colorado Snowman wrote:

Since the "this is the Sony forum" cat is already out of the bag...

I have no experience with Canon, but I vote for the Sony combo big time!

Here is a photo I took with that combo plus my 1.4 TC about 90 minutes ago. I know, it is not a BIF, but it was way up high in a tree, and handheld, and...

Please blame my lack of skills for any weaknesses in the photo. Maybe a tad soft if you pixel peep.

Great Horned Owl.

Nice photo.  I have to learn to spot owls.  Your photo underscores why they are often difficult to spot.

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OP thomeven New Member • Posts: 15
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BlueJakester wrote:

You realize this is the Sony forum, right?

Sure do I also asked the same question within the Canon forum, and I think I am convinced to stay Sony..

OP thomeven New Member • Posts: 15
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Colorado Snowman wrote:

Since the "this is the Sony forum" cat is already out of the bag...

I have no experience with Canon, but I vote for the Sony combo big time!

Here is a photo I took with that combo plus my 1.4 TC about 90 minutes ago. I know, it is not a BIF, but it was way up high in a tree, and handheld, and...

Please blame my lack of skills for any weaknesses in the photo. Maybe a tad soft if you pixel peep.

Great Horned Owl.

Nice photo, and thx for your reply.. I have decided to stay Sony.. Even if the Canon R5 and RF 100-500 is a fantastic combo I think I will be better of with the Sony A1..

Tristimulus Veteran Member • Posts: 8,337
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Had Canon and Sony and am now fully into Sony.

If one can not get as great results with Sony as with Canon or any other system then it is down to sheer incompetence. Changing systems and shooting habits is pretty expensive and time consuming too (need to also fine tune the post production part).

Personally sticking to a system seems like a pretty good strategy. But that is me...

And-roid
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Re: Sony Alpha 1, SEL 200-600 or Canon R5, RF 100-500

thomeven wrote:

Colorado Snowman wrote:

Since the "this is the Sony forum" cat is already out of the bag...

I have no experience with Canon, but I vote for the Sony combo big time!

Here is a photo I took with that combo plus my 1.4 TC about 90 minutes ago. I know, it is not a BIF, but it was way up high in a tree, and handheld, and...

Please blame my lack of skills for any weaknesses in the photo. Maybe a tad soft if you pixel peep.

Great Horned Owl.

Nice photo, and thx for your reply.. I have decided to stay Sony.. Even if the Canon R5 and RF 100-500 is a fantastic combo I think I will be better of with the Sony A1..

When you fit the 1.4xtc to the Canon rf 100-500 it only works from 300, something to do with the rear element, in effect it becomes a 400-700 f8-f10. I thought that highly undesirable, along with the f7.1 at 500 too. If you hold on Sigma is also releasing the 150-600!

This Sigma wasn't something I thought would be so interesting but, the 150 start is better than 200, apparently it focuses very close and its probably a touch lighter than the 200-600, always welcome.

In all honesty I'm fidning it difficult to hand-hold the 200-600 and the zoom ring is very loose and therefore easily moved. Probably needs a bit of practice to get used to but its a big lens to carry around too

Unfortunately my Sony 100-400 was a bit soft wide open at 400 so I decided to swap to the 200-600 but it's not ideal imo as a substitute, the Canon 100-500 is more comparable to the 100-400 in reality!

A1 is superiror to R5 imo and overall native ens options far greater.

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TristanW
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if a1 is over-budget, waiting for 7m4 for 200600 should be a nice option.

as 7s3 has nearly perfect RTT/AFC performance, M4 should be similar.

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pollup Senior Member • Posts: 1,106
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Good choice, as good as the R5 is, the A1 is a superior camera in every way.

The 200-600 will let you take better photos than the 100-500 (I mean a higher percentage of great photos), but it's much larger and heavier. It's possible that Sony will release a "compact" 100-500 in the future. We will see.

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Here is my secret for finding owls.  I live in the Black Forest in Colorado.  Whenever I hear a murder of crows squawking loudly and acting aggressively in the trees, I get out my binoculars and look for an owl.  Usually, the crows are upset because of an owl in the tree.  On occasion, it may be stellar jays acting aggressively towards an owl, but usually, it is the crows.  The crows and jays are so loud that I can easily hear them inside of my house.

Owl and crows.

Owl and stellar jay.

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LarryRC Senior Member • Posts: 1,066
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Colorado Snowman wrote:

Here is my secret for finding owls. I live in the Black Forest in Colorado. Whenever I hear a murder of crows squawking loudly and acting aggressively in the trees, I get out my binoculars and look for an owl. Usually, the crows are upset because of an owl in the tree. On occasion, it may be stellar jays acting aggressively towards an owl, but usually, it is the crows. The crows and jays are so loud that I can easily hear them inside of my house.

Owl and crows.

Owl and stellar jay.

Thanks for the tip.  Ill pay more attention.  There are crows and jays right out my window but ive yet to see an owl locally.

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Geomaticsman Veteran Member • Posts: 3,011
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Earlier this year I had to make the same choice. I had the A7SIII and 200-600 (for video) and even though the R5 had some advantages (better video AF) I stayed with Sony and bought the A1 mostly because of the 200-600G -- Sony has it and Canon does not. The 100-500 is not the same as a 200-600, and I really didn't feel like laying out another $20k (CAD) for a 600/4 regardless of the brand.

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dcstep Senior Member • Posts: 1,456
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thomeven wrote:

This is most likely asked before, but I have to decide within a few days which combo to go for.. The money is about equal, since the A1 is more expensive than Canon R5. Today I have the A9ii with the 200-600mm. I am going more into bird photography and both combinations is excellent for BIF, but they are also somewhat different.. I have been a long time Sony shooter, but also owned Canon gear some years ago.

Does anyone have some facts to consider helping med to decide.. I would probably be happy with both combos, and AF, eye AF and IQ is probably the most important for me. Something tells me to stay Sony, but I am not sure..

I've shot them both and both are fantastic. Stick with the brand that your most invested in at the moment. If one is better today, the other will be better tomorrow.

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Geomaticsman wrote:

Earlier this year I had to make the same choice. I had the A7SIII and 200-600 (for video) and even though the R5 had some advantages (better video AF) I stayed with Sony and bought the A1 mostly because of the 200-600G -- Sony has it and Canon does not. The 100-500 is not the same as a 200-600, and I really didn't feel like laying out another $20k (CAD) for a 600/4 regardless of the brand.

A Sony A1 is ordered. My old A9ii is taken as downpayment on the new body. And I am very happy about it. I have owned several Canon bodies some years ago, and my two last Sony cameras was the A7iii and A9ii.  Any bad photos is not due to the gear, but the man behind it I am also about to retire from work and will spend more time on nature and bird photography ...

LarryRC Senior Member • Posts: 1,066
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thomeven wrote:

Geomaticsman wrote:

Earlier this year I had to make the same choice. I had the A7SIII and 200-600 (for video) and even though the R5 had some advantages (better video AF) I stayed with Sony and bought the A1 mostly because of the 200-600G -- Sony has it and Canon does not. The 100-500 is not the same as a 200-600, and I really didn't feel like laying out another $20k (CAD) for a 600/4 regardless of the brand.

A Sony A1 is ordered. My old A9ii is taken as downpayment on the new body. And I am very happy about it. I have owned several Canon bodies some years ago, and my two last Sony cameras was the A7iii and A9ii. Any bad photos is not due to the gear, but the man behind it I am also about to retire from work and will spend more time on nature and bird photography ...

Congrats!  Enjoy your retirement and your new camera.

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Tristimulus Veteran Member • Posts: 8,337
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thomeven wrote:

Geomaticsman wrote:

Earlier this year I had to make the same choice. I had the A7SIII and 200-600 (for video) and even though the R5 had some advantages (better video AF) I stayed with Sony and bought the A1 mostly because of the 200-600G -- Sony has it and Canon does not. The 100-500 is not the same as a 200-600, and I really didn't feel like laying out another $20k (CAD) for a 600/4 regardless of the brand.

A Sony A1 is ordered. My old A9ii is taken as downpayment on the new body. And I am very happy about it. I have owned several Canon bodies some years ago, and my two last Sony cameras was the A7iii and A9ii. Any bad photos is not due to the gear, but the man behind it

Good to see that I am not the only one.

When reading forums like this one there seems to be lots of superior photographers out there who never find gear that match their skills! 

I am also about to retire from work and will spend more time on nature and bird photography ...

That sounds reasonable. At least you should be fortunate to have good gear! 

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