Well E-P7 is here today!

- No DXo PhotoLab support (yet) so no deep PRIME noise reduction yet.

- No Iridient Digital (I use that a lot!) support yet, but heard it was coming.

EM10 MKIV is a camera that surprisingly, I have come to like more and more.  I need to sell it if I am keeping the EP7 which looks like I will.

if you have one of the latest Olympus/OM Digital Cameras, and that includes the EM10 MKIV so far it seems all are ball park Same. Now, Olympus always put something extra to the higher tier priced cameras.. don't know exactly what it is, could be the color filter array a bit more refined, the sensor being picked as higher quality "from the bin" or something else.. but ballpark you are all in a place where you don't need to "upgrade."

My attraction to the EP7 is size, and the JPEG color/B&W of the PenF in a much more responsive camera.

jimrpdx wrote:

Sounds nice. Having two true control dials is so much nicer than PL/PM bodies, and EVF is a bonus not a need for me.

I only noticed one switch on the body in early photos, is it the power switch or the 2-way control setting?

Power switch  - and the dials and switch are done in such a way that they are not easy to ch age by accident if you put the camera in a jacket pocket

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jimrpdx wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

jimrpdx wrote:

Sounds nice. Having two true control dials is so much nicer than PL/PM bodies, and EVF is a bonus not a need for me.

I only noticed one switch on the body in early photos, is it the power switch or the 2-way control setting?

Power switch - and the dials and switch are done in such a way that they are not easy to ch age by accident if you put the camera in a jacket pocket

Is the eP5 2x2 switch missing? That would be a downer.

There is no 2x2 switch, so yes, it's missing. This has been discussed before by the way (maybe you missed that entire thread on the EP7).  The EP7 seems to be more of a "super EPL10" than an EP5 real successor (it's missing the EVF port too).

Thanks for the look - to be clear there's that wonderful Panny Lumix lens but also the 25mn F1.8 Oly prime.

O.I. Share iOS App - works with the EP7

Olympus Workspace M1 Mac - works with EP7

Camera on first boot-up asks to select a language in 6-8 languages (can't remember).  These include French and Spanish also.

The camera is as good as if it was released here (other than warranty).

Now the wait for Iridient and DXO PhotoLab starts.

Thanks for explaining their background.

Ainisru wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Thanks for the look - to be clear there's that wonderful Panny Lumix lens but also the 25mn F1.8 Oly prime.

Ha! My mistake, I didn't know. The Pana 20 & 25 gets talked a lot and i've honestly not looked at Oly 25mm before. Looks great.

The oly 25mm is one of my very favorite lenses. To be honest I was disappointed with the Lumix 25mm F1.4 because it honest have that "magic" its old 4/3rds counter part did- unless you start getting to F3.5-F4.0 and still...

Raist3d wrote:

Wow that was fast. Shipped through DHL - a German "international shipping UPS" I Guess? I sort of heard of them but you don't see them usually in the USA that often I guess. but they are here.

I will have to take the impressions over time but here's some:

- Setting the Camera to English language- not a problem. First screen is language select and the default was English. Go figure.

- Olympus I.S. iOS iPhone share- sets up the camera with no problem, and I can use the remote, import, turn on/off etc. just like a valid Olympus camera in the USA that has similar abilities.

- Camera is *FAST* saving to a good UHSII memcard- just like EM10 MarkIV is

- This camera runs *circles* around the PenF ability to respond to UI/do AF. Tracking on the PenF is pretty much a joke to a big degree, not so here.

- The camera is not on first pass "that much smaller" of a feel vs EM10 MKIV. IF you. just have an EVF (and I will admit I have been using the EVF a bit more recently on the EM10), this camera is not for you.

- I saw a review complaining the skin tones on LCD were too warm/vivid. I found out the camera by default has the LCD set to "VIVID" color (a few Oly cameras have this feature) - set it to Natural and that does go a long way to alleviate this "issue."

- The camera has the JPEG engine of the PenF from all I can see, but with a few WELCOME tweaks in the UI and usability, namely from what I have seen so far:

1. The UI to select the color or monochrome profile makes vastly more sense than the PenF, it's easy to see what state you are in and what comes next

2. Having the front dial being "Profiles OFF/Profiles ON" makes for a far quicker binary selection than the PenF's "Did I dial a bit too much, am I in monochrome or color?" deal

3. When using the raw in-camera converter, the profiles do change the settings on the shading (shadows, midpoint, highlight) to what you had them set to. This does not happen on the PenF and it's a welcome change.

Note that over the EM10MKIV you can change shading, EV compensation, etc. when developing in-cameras raws- on the EM10IV you only can select "current settings" if you want to change some things.

- The camera seems to use the same exact LCD of the EM10MKIV in its articulation. This is great in that you don't have the EPL9/EPL10 shuffle dance to get to a selfie position. Oddly enough you do have the small "tilt towards you in place" of the Em10MKIV.

On the EM10MKIV this small tilt lock makes sense to get the LCD out of the way of the EVF profusion when looking from the top view down to your waist. ON the EP7 I guess it makes some sense but not as obvious.

- IBIS so far seems ballpark same as EM10MKIV which means pretty great.

- Finally and surprisingly- the JPEG engine has the Super Fine compression exposed from the get go, you don't need to configure it to use it the first time.

More stuff to come, this is the work week so not many shots at night at all yet but here's some shots.

Yes, the testing of new cameras would end if we didn't have cats to test on, of course.

Question about af tracking, I guess for both the em10 mkiv and ep7. Is it useable? I'm not talking about really good like 90% hit rate. On the em10 mkiii it will not track, c-af doesn't really work well either.

WT21 wrote:

Raist3d wrote:

Yes, the testing of new cameras would end if we didn't have cats to test on, of course.

Does it look like no/weak AA filter? That looks like pretty good per pixel sharpness.

It would seem there’s none to a pretty weak one   I am so far getting PenF class results (which didn’t have one)  I need to verify the DR window sensor characterization/ metering is same  penF seemed it could do a moth better here but need to do a controlled test  as it could be about same