Chris 222 wrote:
boogisha wrote:
..., not to fill that original one with pack-specific posts (causing it to reach its post limit and become practically closed for any further, more general discussion),
Given that DPR will probably never change their absurd post limit, this is very thoughtful and very much appreciated. I hope others will follow in your footsteps!
No problem, Chris, and thanks for the original thread once more, it certainly helped me. I do hope people will chime-in here - even if to post a question only, as I can answer some questions now, too, where I previously had many myself, and your feedback was very valuable.
In fact the most important thing one should always measure is their torso length (the cool thing is that you only need to do this once in your adult life!)
While at it - what should the torso length actually be compared/matched with (on the backpack)...? I guess the frame length (height), but as both shoulder straps and load lifters could be attached to different points (heights), I guess that would/could make a difference, too?
I'm sure many will appreciate your providing these absolutely awesome details.
Thanks, those were some measurements I took for myself before even buying the packs, but some are made recently, too, going by what I think might be helpful to the people.
The good thing is, once you have the pack, you can measure it as much as you want... though then that can be useful to the others only, lol (if there is anything you didn`t really count on, that is, now having just to accept it as it is - luckily no such thing for me... yet).
On a quick aside, for those who aren't familiar with the universal metric system, here are the conversions I have personally memorized (I use them all the time in both my personal and professional lives):
[all figures slightly rounded]
1 inch = 2.55 centimeters (-> divide centimeters by 2.55 to get a measurement in inches)
1 foot = 0.30 meters (30 centimeters)
1 mile = 1.61 kilometers
1 kilogram (1,000 grams) = 2.2 pounds
1 pound = 0.45 kg
Ah, yes, thanks for providing these - initially, I thought of writing all the measurements in both systems (centimetres and inches, for example), but seeing how many numbers there are in each sentence already, I figured it may just be too much, ruining readability further, so left the conversion for the readers preferring it, unfortunately.
and easy to open/close single-handedly
Ditto for my old Decathlon MH100 frameless ("packable') 20 L pack.
Which, in fairness, begs the question: why does Osprey still sell packs with zippers that require two hands, and at multiple times the price of a Quechua ?!
I know I digress, but hey, Quechua packs also have industry-leading straps management, and Osprey has industry-trailing straps management, this is just nuts...
C'mon Osprey, you can do better!
Fun fact - other than side access (being a huge thing for me), a few small but great details like this pushed me towards Quechua, instead of going with Deuter, for example, being strap sleeves, low and angled side mesh pockets (easily reachable while wearing the pack), and hip-belt pockets weren`t lacking at all - on the contrary, even, using them being a breeze (and fitting a lot).
Looking forward to your feedback!
Same here, lol, I just need to dedicate some time to it, and organize my thoughts a bit... I hope the thread might still be helpful in the meantime, too.
Size comparison (when full), screenshot taken from a YouTube review video[2]:

Nice job on that screenshot Boogisha !
I suppose your were only searching for MH500 pics, but you may be surprised to hear that IMHO you stumbled upon a real gem here.
Truth to be told, I searched for _anything and everything_ about these packs - yet there`s not that much to be found still, I`m afraid. Besides the mentioned video (which I did watch, and a few times, with automatic translation being rather helpful), there are only a few more even now, and I managed to find a couple of written reviews (some again in languages other than English, too).
For those who don't understand French, it turns out that Alex, the author of this video, is a professional mountain guide who lives in Corsica, a famous and rebellious island south of Marseille, France (famous for its amazing fromages, charcuterie, its mafia, its gorgeous landscapes, and much more.) Alex and his compagne Cinzia offer year-round, customized hikes on and off the GR20, a rugged and often highly-technical trail considered by many ultra runners to be Europe's most challenging one. For those who are less in a hurry, the GR20 also offers some of the most beautiful scenery on earth: https://www.duodescimes.fr/
Ah, thanks for the background - it did seem the guy knows what he`s talking about, but having some more info is appreciated.
- while he has recommend larger Decathlon packs like the Forclaz series in the past, the 2021 Quechua MH500 series is the first Decathlon one under 40L that meet his standards.
Just a quick nit here - is it 2020 Quechua MH500, or 2021 (as you now wrote here)...? I think it`s the former, as _I think_ some of the resources I found are from the previous year, but I`m not sure... Yet, it would be good to know, for clarity sake (especially as Decathlon itself doesn`t provide the info).
- As Boogisha excellently documented, the L frame is only 5cm taller. Alex thinks the L should be another 5 cm higher to accommodate taller folks taller than 1.75 m. While I wish he would discuss and educate about actual torso lengths (he's not that tall anyway) I agree on principle but, as Boogisha said, only you can determine if the MH500 would work for you (and you should do it with full load, etc. go back to FAQ 1 for how-tos.)
I asked that "how to match torso length to pack (frame) size" question above already, but I`ll just add I might agree with Alex here, too.
I`m 1.84m, with torso length of 51cm (from iliac crest to C7 vertebra, to the best of our home measurement), and while the frame of "L" sized pack is 50cm, I do feel I could use a few centimetres more - or at least have the shoulder straps (padding, that is) a tiny bit longer, so I can loose them as much as I would sometimes want (while having the pack resting on my hips), without reaching the end of the padding, feeling it close to my armpits (tolerable, but still on the very verge of not being very comfortable).
- He had a bit of a hard time closing the sternum strap clip. For reference, no such thing in our community's MH500 test notes I just double checked. I have a similar. slightly-different-from-the-norm design on another pack and it's something you get used to very quickly.
Eh, I need to agree with him here, too - but that in comparison to Peak Design`s Everyday Backpack sternum strap which has no clips, but the end of it just hooks into the shoulder strap (there are a few slots at different heights).
I don`t think what Quechua has is anything harder than usual clip stuff - one side going into another - but it`s not the easiest thing to do with a single hand, and hard not to notice once you have some experience with what Peak Design did. I am starting to get used to it, closing it single-handedly, too, but there seem to be better solutions.
Oh, and one more thing regarding the sternum strap - I absolutely have no idea what were they thinking when they were designing the location for the strap sleeve for that one... It`s a bit hard to explain (I might have a photo coming later), but in short, the sleeve is pretty much fixed at the strap _at the opposite end_ of the clip, not being able to come much closer to it, so you can only use it if you tighten the sternum strap really hard (having the loose strap end reach all the way to the other shoulder strap, where the sleeve is).
For me, I`m left with some 5-6 cm of strap end dangling from the clip, and nowhere near to reach the sleeve to tuck it in. Not the end of the world for sure (far from it, of course), but as all the other strap sleeves are great, it leaves one wondering what happened here... For what that is worth, I might just add another sleeve myself, but near the clip this time (being a logical location, while still movable further away), handling the leftover strap.
But overall, I`m more than happy with the pack, of course - yet to be put to words