OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

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bluzman
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Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(
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OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

It is silly that we have to worry about this sort of thing. All cameras should be made shock proof and water proof by government regulation.

Just what we need...more government regulations.

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kathiemt wrote:

Oh dear, glad to hear it's still working ok. Great shot.

Thanks Kathie.

Glad it is working too

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ANAYV

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VadiV wrote:

Hi Anayv,

Good the camera is working .

Yes!

This photo shows superb details, do you do any RAW processing ?

Yes

or just JPEGs from the camera ?

For most detail and when using higher ISO or under exposing a bit, RAW gives me the best I.Q. from this P950.

I use DXO PL4

Thanks,

VadiV

Your welcome

Stay healthy

ANAYV

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Hi Anayv,

Thanks for your response. I bought P950 seeing yours and few others in this forum.

VadiV

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Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

JimH123 wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

First the bad news.

While using my P950 the other day I accidentally dropped my P950.

About 3 -4 feet, onto the ground (dirt/grass)

Camera was on and lens was fully zoomed out

I quickly picked it up and the EVF had the words please turn off and turn on again (or something like that).

The good news:

It powered back up and seems to be fine

This image taken the day After the fall:

I see plenty of fine details and am confident the P950 will continue to be a good tool for taking images far away (birds/wildlife), which is the reason I bought it.

Good to see this is build pretty good.

Stay healthy

ANAYV

You're lucky this time. Depending upon how it strikes the ground, it could have been a disaster.

It is silly that we have to worry about this sort of thing. All cameras should be made shock proof and water proof by government regulation.

Huh?

No thanks.

Perhaps it already is...shockproof, anyway....It fell, and it works fine

Stay healthy

ANAYV

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AM123 wrote:

You are truly lucky!

Indeed. Thankful too:)

First the FZ80 and then this.

FZ80 was from about 5 feet , but landed on carpeted floor and lens at full wide angle

P950 lens was  fully extended

So glad both are still working

Stay healthy

ANAYV

OutsideTheMatrix
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Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

ANAYV wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

JimH123 wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

First the bad news.

While using my P950 the other day I accidentally dropped my P950.

About 3 -4 feet, onto the ground (dirt/grass)

Camera was on and lens was fully zoomed out

I quickly picked it up and the EVF had the words please turn off and turn on again (or something like that).

The good news:

It powered back up and seems to be fine

This image taken the day After the fall:

I see plenty of fine details and am confident the P950 will continue to be a good tool for taking images far away (birds/wildlife), which is the reason I bought it.

Good to see this is build pretty good.

Stay healthy

ANAYV

You're lucky this time. Depending upon how it strikes the ground, it could have been a disaster.

It is silly that we have to worry about this sort of thing. All cameras should be made shock proof and water proof by government regulation.

Huh?

No thanks.

Perhaps it already is...shockproof, anyway....It fell, and it works fine

Stay healthy

ANAYV

Haha it might be.  I am super careful of my equipment, I would probably have a heart attack if I dropped a camera.  The camera might be shock proof but I am not!

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Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

bluzman wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

It is silly that we have to worry about this sort of thing. All cameras should be made shock proof and water proof by government regulation.

Just what we need...more government regulations.

Yes we do   Those add-on warranties seem to be pretty worthless.  I always buy additional warranties but having heard from people who actually had to use them, they didnt work out so well.

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Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

ANAYV wrote:

VadiV wrote:

Hi Anayv,

Good the camera is working .

Yes!

This photo shows superb details, do you do any RAW processing ?

Yes

or just JPEGs from the camera ?

For most detail and when using higher ISO or under exposing a bit, RAW gives me the best I.Q. from this P950.

I use DXO PL4

Thanks,

VadiV

Your welcome

Stay healthy

ANAYV

I think you did a test or were going to, at which point does RAW processing overtake sooc JPG?  I think you found at ISO 100 they are equally good under all circumstances and conditions, at ISO 200 RAW processing is better in specific examples, but it becomes clearly better at ISO 400?

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OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

VadiV wrote:

Hi Anayv,

Good the camera is working .

Yes!

This photo shows superb details, do you do any RAW processing ?

Yes

or just JPEGs from the camera ?

For most detail and when using higher ISO or under exposing a bit, RAW gives me the best I.Q. from this P950.

I use DXO PL4

Thanks,

VadiV

Your welcome

Stay healthy

ANAYV

I think you did a test or were going to, at which point does RAW processing overtake sooc JPG? I think you found at ISO 100 they are equally good under all circumstances and conditions, at ISO 200 RAW processing is better in specific examples, but it becomes clearly better at ISO 400?

Yes. Pretty much sums it up.

For standard viewing of images, many wont notice the NR smearing.

When pixel peeping, one does notice this.

I like the results I get shooting RAW, so most always I will stick to it.

Having said that, I was shooting Strawberry Moon the other night, changed to jpeg to try out digital zoom....but forgot to change it back

Took out the P950 yesterday and seen a Cormorant, and was so glad...but...shots are all jpeg.

Some at ISO 1600

Sure wish I had set it back to RAW  before shooting

Stay healthy

ANAYV

VadiV Regular Member • Posts: 425
Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

Hi Anayv,

I tried few RAW and JPEGs , and processed RAW with DXO PureRAW ( no special setting - trial copy). M camera does better than the RAW processing , and one more thing I noticed the RAW processed image is little bigger than JPEG when I compared them 100% and I do not have any explanation on that.

Just straight from P950 JPEG - I like this.

I did similar tests with Panasonic ZS50, Canon SX50, FZ80, Nikon D300 and D90 - all of the RAW processing better than camera JPEG.

Thanks,

VadiV

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OutsideTheMatrix
OutsideTheMatrix Veteran Member • Posts: 7,986
Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

ANAYV wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

VadiV wrote:

Hi Anayv,

Good the camera is working .

Yes!

This photo shows superb details, do you do any RAW processing ?

Yes

or just JPEGs from the camera ?

For most detail and when using higher ISO or under exposing a bit, RAW gives me the best I.Q. from this P950.

I use DXO PL4

Thanks,

VadiV

Your welcome

Stay healthy

ANAYV

I think you did a test or were going to, at which point does RAW processing overtake sooc JPG? I think you found at ISO 100 they are equally good under all circumstances and conditions, at ISO 200 RAW processing is better in specific examples, but it becomes clearly better at ISO 400?

Yes. Pretty much sums it up.

For standard viewing of images, many wont notice the NR smearing.

When pixel peeping, one does notice this.

I like the results I get shooting RAW, so most always I will stick to it.

Having said that, I was shooting Strawberry Moon the other night, changed to jpeg to try out digital zoom....but forgot to change it back

Took out the P950 yesterday and seen a Cormorant, and was so glad...but...shots are all jpeg.

Some at ISO 1600

Sure wish I had set it back to RAW before shooting

Stay healthy

ANAYV

Nikon is good with updates so hopefully the next one will have a raw+jpg option where raw without digital zoom can be taken along with digital zoom jpg, then you wouldn't have to change

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Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

Vadiv, which one did you find retained the most detail? I love feather details in cardinal images!

also what is M camera?

from this:

M camera does better than the RAW processing

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Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

VadiV wrote:

Hi Anayv,

Good the camera is working .

Yes!

This photo shows superb details, do you do any RAW processing ?

Yes

or just JPEGs from the camera ?

For most detail and when using higher ISO or under exposing a bit, RAW gives me the best I.Q. from this P950.

I use DXO PL4

Thanks,

VadiV

Your welcome

Stay healthy

ANAYV

I think you did a test or were going to, at which point does RAW processing overtake sooc JPG? I think you found at ISO 100 they are equally good under all circumstances and conditions, at ISO 200 RAW processing is better in specific examples, but it becomes clearly better at ISO 400?

Yes. Pretty much sums it up.

For standard viewing of images, many wont notice the NR smearing.

When pixel peeping, one does notice this.

I like the results I get shooting RAW, so most always I will stick to it.

Having said that, I was shooting Strawberry Moon the other night, changed to jpeg to try out digital zoom....but forgot to change it back

Took out the P950 yesterday and seen a Cormorant, and was so glad...but...shots are all jpeg.

Some at ISO 1600

Sure wish I had set it back to RAW before shooting

Stay healthy

ANAYV

Nikon is good with updates so hopefully the next one will have a raw+jpg option where raw without digital zoom can be taken along with digital zoom jpg, then you wouldn't have to change

I don't think they will address this...at all.

(My P950 is at original firmware)

They rarely update firmware for their non D-SLR/Mirrorless camera's.

I just need to pay attention more

Stay healthy

ANAYV

VadiV Regular Member • Posts: 425
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Hi ,

I think "y" is missing , I meant My copy of P950 JPEGs are better than RAW.

The first cardinal and the 4th cardinals are RAW processed.

Thanks,

VadiV

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OutsideTheMatrix
OutsideTheMatrix Veteran Member • Posts: 7,986
Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

ANAYV wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

ANAYV wrote:

VadiV wrote:

Hi Anayv,

Good the camera is working .

Yes!

This photo shows superb details, do you do any RAW processing ?

Yes

or just JPEGs from the camera ?

For most detail and when using higher ISO or under exposing a bit, RAW gives me the best I.Q. from this P950.

I use DXO PL4

Thanks,

VadiV

Your welcome

Stay healthy

ANAYV

I think you did a test or were going to, at which point does RAW processing overtake sooc JPG? I think you found at ISO 100 they are equally good under all circumstances and conditions, at ISO 200 RAW processing is better in specific examples, but it becomes clearly better at ISO 400?

Yes. Pretty much sums it up.

For standard viewing of images, many wont notice the NR smearing.

When pixel peeping, one does notice this.

I like the results I get shooting RAW, so most always I will stick to it.

Having said that, I was shooting Strawberry Moon the other night, changed to jpeg to try out digital zoom....but forgot to change it back

Took out the P950 yesterday and seen a Cormorant, and was so glad...but...shots are all jpeg.

Some at ISO 1600

Sure wish I had set it back to RAW before shooting

Stay healthy

ANAYV

Nikon is good with updates so hopefully the next one will have a raw+jpg option where raw without digital zoom can be taken along with digital zoom jpg, then you wouldn't have to change

I don't think they will address this...at all.

(My P950 is at original firmware)

They rarely update firmware for their non D-SLR/Mirrorless camera's.

I just need to pay attention more

Stay healthy

ANAYV

Have you thought about using the Custom mode as an A/B switch so you could quickly switch between both?  I do that and it works well, so you have one set of settings for when you want to use digital zoom and a separate set of settings for RAW.

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VadiV wrote:

Hi ,

I think "y" is missing , I meant My copy of P950 JPEGs are better than RAW.

The first cardinal and the 4th cardinals are RAW processed.

Thanks,

VadiV

Thanks, did you find this to be the case for ISO 400 and above also?  I think my favorite is the 2nd one (jpg with feather detail at ISO 320).  I notice the resolutions are different on them, could you post the full resolution ones also please?

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VadiV Regular Member • Posts: 425
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Actually I posted the original size, you can download the original JPEG when you click on the dpreview image and select JPEG under the details option

Example:

https://2.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/65266133/fb39827e0ae54a959dde6131ab1d2300

Thanks,

VadiV

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bluzman
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Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(
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OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

bluzman wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

It is silly that we have to worry about this sort of thing. All cameras should be made shock proof and water proof by government regulation.

Just what we need...more government regulations.

Yes we do Those add-on warranties seem to be pretty worthless. I always buy additional warranties but having heard from people who actually had to use them, they didnt work out so well.

No, no, we don't.

“The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.”

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Re: OOPs.. I Dropped my P950 :(

bluzman wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

bluzman wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

It is silly that we have to worry about this sort of thing. All cameras should be made shock proof and water proof by government regulation.

Just what we need...more government regulations.

Yes we do Those add-on warranties seem to be pretty worthless. I always buy additional warranties but having heard from people who actually had to use them, they didnt work out so well.

No, no, we don't.

“The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.”

we are the government, plus corporate greed with their environmental pollution is a lot worse and the only remedy besides regulations are class action lawsuits.

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