K3 review from PC mag

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cyanhue Regular Member • Posts: 179
K3 review from PC mag
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not the best source of camera reviews, but still more reviews is good.
not much new here, the review seems reasonably fair, but not very positive except for existing Pentax users.

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii

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PentUp Senior Member • Posts: 2,415
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Yeah, the reviewer shows a clear and sometimes condescending pro-mirrorless bias.

But all the comments about the K3III ticked most of the positive boxes for me personally as a photographer. And the negatives were fair and balanced, to the extent that he wasn't following the 'it's not mirrorless' trope.

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PentUp wrote:

Yeah, the reviewer shows a clear and sometimes condescending pro-mirrorless bias.

But all the comments about the K3III ticked most of the positive boxes for me personally as a photographer. And the negatives were fair and balanced, to the extent that he wasn't following the 'it's not mirrorless' trope.

I got a similar impression.

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What did Pentax gain if it didn't put tilting screen and astrotracer in Pentax K3III? This caused many Pentax customers to give up buying the K3III. Many Pentax customers are not so much interested in birds in flight, but astrotracer and tilting screen do. In this fierce competition between camera manufacturers, you have to offer so that your customers do not go to other brands, it is a reality not a philosophy. That's why many Pentaxians went to Fuji, Olympus, Sony, Nikon. You can't wait 2-3 years to have a camera with a tilting screen, when most cameras usually have this for years. If Pentax did not put astrotracer in K3III, it had to put in pack an O-GPS1.

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PentUp Senior Member • Posts: 2,415
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Valeriu 64 wrote:

What did Pentax gain if it didn't put tilting screen and astrotracer in Pentax K3III? This caused many Pentax customers to give up buying the K3III. Many Pentax customers are not so much interested in birds in flight, but astrotracer and tilting screen do. In this fierce competition between camera manufacturers, you have to offer so that your customers do not go to other brands, it is a reality not a philosophy. That's why many Pentaxians went to Fuji, Olympus, Sony, Nikon. You can't wait 2-3 years to have a camera with a tilting screen, when most cameras usually have this for years. If Pentax did not put astrotracer in K3III, it had to put in pack an O-GPS1.

Meh… I would have preferred a tilting / articulating screen on the K-3iii, but that was not a dealbreaker. None of my other Pentax DSLRs had one so I’ve lost nothing. And I don’t give a poop about in built GPS, so no loss to me either. I have no complaints about Pentax DSLR bodies. I just wish that they would cater to MY lens needs specifically

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anware Regular Member • Posts: 148
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I don't believe for a second that "many" Pentaxians went to Fuji, Sony, Nikon and Canon to get the astrotracer function that isn't missing from the K-3 iii.

Lessiter Regular Member • Posts: 271
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Valeriu 64 wrote:

What did Pentax gain if it didn't put tilting screen and astrotracer in Pentax K3III? This caused many Pentax customers to give up buying the K3III. Many Pentax customers are not so much interested in birds in flight, but astrotracer and tilting screen do. In this fierce competition between camera manufacturers, you have to offer so that your customers do not go to other brands, it is a reality not a philosophy. That's why many Pentaxians went to Fuji, Olympus, Sony, Nikon. You can't wait 2-3 years to have a camera with a tilting screen, when most cameras usually have this for years. If Pentax did not put astrotracer in K3III, it had to put in pack an O-GPS1.

Your post is full of guessing expressed as fact. You are using "many" many times but I suspect you don't really know how many?

Astrotracer is a niche feature and tilt screen is a "nice to have" feature. Both available in the K-1 at a similar price. Imho Pentax is doing the right thing moving further and further away from the mainstream camera business. By not having a moving screen Pentax signals more clearly that it's playing a different game. These hard choices and focused models are the future. Pentax should make dslrs with the same tough minded user and design focus as they used in the GR's. Gear heads and feature shoppers should look elsewhere from the start.

You'll find lots of people thinking adding zoom would improve the GR. Those people completely fail to understand the model and should be ignored. The same goes for people asking for features in the K-3III. If anything they should have made tougher choices removing more cruft.

JeremieB Senior Member • Posts: 1,109
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Valeriu 64 wrote:

What did Pentax gain if it didn't put tilting screen and astrotracer in Pentax K3III? This caused many Pentax customers to give up buying the K3III. Many Pentax customers are not so much interested in birds in flight, but astrotracer and tilting screen do. In this fierce competition between camera manufacturers, you have to offer so that your customers do not go to other brands, it is a reality not a philosophy. That's why many Pentaxians went to Fuji, Olympus, Sony, Nikon. You can't wait 2-3 years to have a camera with a tilting screen, when most cameras usually have this for years. If Pentax did not put astrotracer in K3III, it had to put in pack an O-GPS

GPS is lacking, not astrotracer.

I still think the main issue is that every Pentax user wants to want this camera, because it's a new release after quite some time. Truth is that it's probably not targeting everyone though.

If your main interests are astro or landscapes on tripod, you may probably be better served by a K3II or a K1II. But still, if you want to do astro or landscape on tripod with K3III, you can - it's just not as comfortable.  Reversely, how many action oriented cameras do have an astrotracer feature ? Probably none. As often, ultimately I think their decisions make sense, and at least they suit me.

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Currently I do not have the camera, but God willing, I will buy it maybe next year. But I have observations on it through the reactions of some buyers, including that the camera is far from the philosophy of Pentax, which depends on simplicity and uncomplicatedness. Also, the camera was released in a hurry and the evidence is many problems The technology that appears from time to time. This is of course in addition to the exaggerated pricing and the lack of a fast Standard lens suitable for the new Focus system. In any case, it remains the only option now for us who own a lot of Pentax lenses.

I hope that Pentax will rectify the problems that have arisen so that they do not affect the trends of the second and third row of potential buyers.

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Mike Arledge Senior Member • Posts: 2,134
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zakaria wrote:

Currently I do not have the camera, but God willing, I will buy it maybe next year. But I have observations on it through the reactions of some buyers, including that the camera is far from the philosophy of Pentax, which depends on simplicity and uncomplicatedness. Also, the camera was released in a hurry and the evidence is many problems The technology that appears from time to time. This is of course in addition to the exaggerated pricing and the lack of a fast Standard lens suitable for the new Focus system. In any case, it remains the only option now for us who own a lot of Pentax lenses.

I hope that Pentax will rectify the problems that have arisen so that they do not affect the trends of the second and third row of potential buyers.

Yes, I am glad I chose not to early adopt, even though I almost hit “buy” 20 times that first week.  In the end, my KP does fine for my remaining Pentax glass, and my new Canon R6 does everything I need from AF and more.

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cyanhue wrote:

not the best source of camera reviews, but still more reviews is good.
not much new here, the review seems reasonably fair, but not very positive except for existing Pentax users.

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii

Well, everything what Pentax makes is meant only for the existing Pentax users. They are aware of it and behave accordingly .

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Seems like a contradictory & superficial review. First they say that AF is not perfectly accurate, but then they say that it can track accurately. So what is it?

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Mike Arledge wrote:

zakaria wrote:

Currently I do not have the camera, but God willing, I will buy it maybe next year. But I have observations on it through the reactions of some buyers, including that the camera is far from the philosophy of Pentax, which depends on simplicity and uncomplicatedness. Also, the camera was released in a hurry and the evidence is many problems The technology that appears from time to time. This is of course in addition to the exaggerated pricing and the lack of a fast Standard lens suitable for the new Focus system. In any case, it remains the only option now for us who own a lot of Pentax lenses.

I hope that Pentax will rectify the problems that have arisen so that they do not affect the trends of the second and third row of potential buyers.

Yes, I am glad I chose not to early adopt, even though I almost hit “buy” 20 times that first week. In the end, my KP does fine for my remaining Pentax glass, and my new Canon R6 does everything I need from AF and more.

I preferred z7 which got it at bargain price.

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zakaria wrote:

... the camera was released in a hurry ...

It was ???   

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RBIV wrote:

zakaria wrote:

... the camera was released in a hurry ...

It was ???

😆

It took a lot of time in the hands of the  ambassadors who did not discover a single defect!!!!, while it  took a little time to review the quality of the production.

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zakaria wrote:

RBIV wrote:

zakaria wrote:

... the camera was released in a hurry ...

It was ???

😆

It took a lot of time in the hands of the ambassadors who did not discover a single defect!!!!, while it took a little time to review the quality of the production.

"Ambassadors"  wouldn't be ambassadors for long if they even hinted at anything negative on the products they get discounted or free.

The odd one might say something to their supplier, but not likely anything publicly.

I never buy anything based on the recommendations of paid shills. 

Adam007 Contributing Member • Posts: 686
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His complaint about the "shaky" viewfinder is weird.  I mean, that's literally your own hand shaking, Dude.  I'm sorry if years of shooting of the LCD screen with your favorite mirrorless camera has dulled your technique.

If you want to see some crazy shake, try inputting the wrong FL into a ML body.  That's your palsied hand on steroids. Ask me how I know!

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Adam007 wrote:

His complaint about the "shaky" viewfinder is weird. I mean, that's literally your own hand shaking, Dude. I'm sorry if years of shooting of the LCD screen with your favorite mirrorless camera has dulled your technique.

If you want to see some crazy shake, try inputting the wrong FL into a ML body. That's your palsied hand on steroids. Ask me how I know!

Has anyone read, seen a YouTube, or used the camera and experienced the “shaky” viewfinder problem, or the dark viewfinder when indoors? I have a k1 and never experienced either and the reviews including from owners of the new k3iii is that the viewfinder and display are excellent. But maybe going from an EVF to an optical display threw off the reviewer?

The review lost my attention when at the beginning it states. “It's an APS-C sensor camera, not a full-frame like the Pentax K-1 Mark II.” 
I wonder if reviews for Canon, Nikon, and Sony start off that way?

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When I use the 55-300mm and the 1.4 TC I have trouble holding the camera steady. The image in the viewfinder is unsteady. My Canon camera with image stabilized lenses are steady as a rock.  I took this photo using a tripod because I could not hold the camera still. I am 71 yrs old.

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Bestwun2 wrote:

When I use the 55-300mm and the 1.4 TC I have trouble holding the camera steady. The image in the viewfinder is unsteady. My Canon camera with image stabilized lenses are steady as a rock. I took this photo using a tripod because I could not hold the camera still. I am 71 yrs old.

Great photo.

You may have struggled, but your camera and lens didn't. That's part of the process of human aging I guess.

The review in question however, is reviewing a camera, not the steady hands of the venerable

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