Mini Challenge #632: Motorsports

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Re: Mini Challenge #632: Motorsports EXHIBITS

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AlwynS wrote:

A few more exhibits

A Cobra?

Some UK- or Australia-based Ford from the 70s, perhaps?

Yes, it's an early 1970s European Ford Escort Mk 1, I think with a Lotus-tweaked engine.

Mini! Back when it was still Morris.

I think that's actually a 1973 Austin Mini.

Ford Fairlane or Comet, I think.

One of the pure race cars instead of a street car turned race car.

A Jaguar, I think.

Looks like an E-Type Jaguar?

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RJake,

Only wish the fence wasn't there! What lens/focal length were you using? And how close to the fence were you?

Sam

Yeah, the fence was a bit of a problem.  Took this with an RX10 (first edition). I think the lens was maxed out to its 200m.  I cropped this from the original which is probably why no EXIF data appears.  I honestly don't remember how far from the fence I was.  Fairly close I think maybe 1-2 ft.

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Re: #632: Motorsports - Entry

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I am in luck. Happened to take a trip to the track in the Texas heat:-). Figured I'd take the RX100

Entry #1

Entry #2

NG,

It is, indeed, HOT in Texas, right now! Nice couple of shots you have. Prelims, warmups, or the race? VERY few folks in the stands, certainly!

Sam

Prelims in these shots but the stands never filled up.  It was 98 - 100 degrees and I think it was a factor. Also a smaller track.

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Re: #632: Motorsports - Entry

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greenmanphoto wrote:

NewGuy1776 wrote:

I am in luck. Happened to take a trip to the track in the Texas heat:-). Figured I'd take the RX100

Entry #1

Entry #2

NG,

It is, indeed, HOT in Texas, right now! Nice couple of shots you have. Prelims, warmups, or the race? VERY few folks in the stands, certainly!

Sam

Prelims in these shots but the stands never filled up. It was 98 - 100 degrees and I think it was a factor. Also a smaller track.

NG,

Yeah, probably so. I was at a motocross track on Sunday, and the guys said it's usually busier than it was then. But considering temps were in the mid- to upper-90s with fairly high humidity...

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Re: Motorsports Entry 1

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RJake,

Only wish the fence wasn't there! What lens/focal length were you using? And how close to the fence were you?

Sam

Yeah, the fence was a bit of a problem. Took this with an RX10 (first edition). I think the lens was maxed out to its 200m. I cropped this from the original which is probably why no EXIF data appears. I honestly don't remember how far from the fence I was. Fairly close I think maybe 1-2 ft.

Rjake,

I asked because with baseball/softball, if you get fairly close to the fence with a long lens, it pretty much disappears. I'm guessing you'd need to be closer than you were, though.

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I got as close as I could without being arrested!  LOL!!

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No fence.  LOL!! 

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Rjake,

Nice image! Yep, MUCH better without a fence, isn't it just?!

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Some very good stuff in this challenge - thought these might fit...

Exhibit 1: D-Type Jaguar on show at Goodwood

Exhibit 2: Gearbox of one of the Toyota Le Mans cars - can't recall which.

Exhibit 3: Ford GT40 giving it some around a spectator-lined street circuit.

Exhibit 4: Agostini replica MV 500 triple. The world has forgotten how to make things as beautiful as this.

Exhibit 5: 1955 NSU Sportsmax - this was a 250cc single cylinder racer sold direct from the factory to privateer racers with a LOT of money. The Dustbin fairing, rear mudgard and petrol tank are all hand-beaten aluminium...

If you see one with its beaten metal bits painted, they will be magnesium - ask your friendly local metal basher about forming magnesium sheet - it is not easy. This particular machine was H.P. [Happy] Muller's personal example and I think the fairings etc are lacquered magnesium.

Exhibit 6: Hogslayer - A twin Norton engined world record setting drag bike. See Archives: The Hogslayer - Cycle News. This thing ate Harleys for breakfast and spit out the pips. There's a movie about it which is probably on YouTube but hard to find these days. It was this device that convinced me that drag racing was a worthwhile way for human beings to waste time.

Entry 1: A roller-bearing crankshaft from a Mercedes GP car of the late 30s - W154, Supercharged, 3 litre V12. It is made up of dozens of precision machined parts joined together with interference fits and screw threads and prevented from being twisted out of line by Hirth joints - the toothed face you see at the end is half of one of them. The thing was pushed together with very short tapered sections and then very high pressure oil was pumped in to swell the joints and allow the parts to be pushed home. It's simply jewelry.

Entry 2: Another view of the same crank - it's in the big Mercedes museum next door to the works. This view shows more detail of the conrods.

Entry 3: A solid Titanium crankshaft from a Flat-12, 1968, Porsche 917 Le Mans car - it's in the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart. It weighs 13Kg, 10Kg less than an equivalent steel shaft. These motors delivered 1100 bhp in 24 hour race trim and rumour has it that some of the 'qualifying' engines had 1500 bhp. They could break traction on the rear wheels at 200mph. I think I'm right in saying that they are still the most powerful cars ever brought to Le Mans and one of them holds the all-time lap record at 3' 13.6" and always will, since they added a chicane in the Mulsanne straight the next year to limit the insane speeds being achieved on that long, long stretch of road. Weight saving measures were so extreme on these cars that the tubular chassis was used to pipe engine oil to the oil coolers and the gear knob was turned out of birch.

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These are wonderful - thanks for posting. Some thoughts below...

(was Goodwood the Revival? I went in '99 and 2000 and there never would have been a contemporary car in the paddock)

edform wrote:

Some very good stuff in this challenge - thought these might fit...

Exhibit 1: D-Type Jaguar on show at Goodwood

Exhibit 2: Gearbox of one of the Toyota Le Mans cars - can't recall which.

Exhibit 3: Ford GT40 giving it some around a spectator-lined street circuit.

A GT40 at speed - Elkhart Lake, WI....

The crank and rods are just gorgeous metal working art that is normally invisible. Coincidentally, I encountered intact examples of both engines a couple of months ago at Revs.....

W154

and a 917...

I appreciated your comments on LeMans below. I was a track marshal there in '95 at Mulsanne. Last practice was Thursday night from (I think) 8pm to midnight with a half hour break midway through. The corner crew cooked a dinner during the break with the last bit of sun dropping below the horizon. They started up again at 10 pm -  perfectly still night and before you saw them, you heard them flat out coming out of the last chicane, then you saw the headlights reflecting off the guardrail, and then the lead group of prototypes crested the shallow hill a quarter mile away at 200 plus.  Not a bad way to spend a summer weekend in France.

Wonderful captures - thanks for sharing

Entry 1: A roller-bearing crankshaft from a Mercedes GP car of the late 30s - W154, Supercharged, 3 litre V12. It is made up of dozens of precision machined parts joined together with interference fits and screw threads and prevented from being twisted out of line by Hirth joints - the toothed face you see at the end is half of one of them. The thing was pushed together with very short tapered sections and then very high pressure oil was pumped in to swell the joints and allow the parts to be pushed home. It's simply jewelry.

Entry 2: Another view of the same crank - it's in the big Mercedes museum next door to the works. This view shows more detail of the conrods.

Entry 3: A solid Titanium crankshaft from a Flat-12, 1968, Porsche 917 Le Mans car - it's in the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart. It weighs 13Kg, 10Kg less than an equivalent steel shaft. These motors delivered 1100 bhp in 24 hour race trim and rumour has it that some of the 'qualifying' engines had 1500 bhp. They could break traction on the rear wheels at 200mph. I think I'm right in saying that they are still the most powerful cars ever brought to Le Mans and one of them holds the all-time lap record at 3' 13.6" and always will, since they added a chicane in the Mulsanne straight the next year to limit the insane speeds being achieved on that long, long stretch of road. Weight saving measures were so extreme on these cars that the tubular chassis was used to pipe engine oil to the oil coolers and the gear knob was turned out of birch.

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edform wrote:

Some very good stuff in this challenge - thought these might fit...

Exhibit 1: D-Type Jaguar on show at Goodwood

Exhibit 2: Gearbox of one of the Toyota Le Mans cars - can't recall which.

Exhibit 3: Ford GT40 giving it some around a spectator-lined street circuit.

Exhibit 4: Agostini replica MV 500 triple. The world has forgotten how to make things as beautiful as this.

Exhibit 5: 1955 NSU Sportsmax - this was a 250cc single cylinder racer sold direct from the factory to privateer racers with a LOT of money. The Dustbin fairing, rear mudgard and petrol tank are all hand-beaten aluminium...

If you see one with its beaten metal bits painted, they will be magnesium - ask your friendly local metal basher about forming magnesium sheet - it is not easy. This particular machine was H.P. [Happy] Muller's personal example and I think the fairings etc are lacquered magnesium.

Exhibit 6: Hogslayer - A twin Norton engined world record setting drag bike. See Archives: The Hogslayer - Cycle News. This thing ate Harleys for breakfast and spit out the pips. There's a movie about it which is probably on YouTube but hard to find these days. It was this device that convinced me that drag racing was a worthwhile way for human beings to waste time.

Entry 1: A roller-bearing crankshaft from a Mercedes GP car of the late 30s - W154, Supercharged, 3 litre V12. It is made up of dozens of precision machined parts joined together with interference fits and screw threads and prevented from being twisted out of line by Hirth joints - the toothed face you see at the end is half of one of them. The thing was pushed together with very short tapered sections and then very high pressure oil was pumped in to swell the joints and allow the parts to be pushed home. It's simply jewelry.

Entry 2: Another view of the same crank - it's in the big Mercedes museum next door to the works. This view shows more detail of the conrods.

Entry 3: A solid Titanium crankshaft from a Flat-12, 1968, Porsche 917 Le Mans car - it's in the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart. It weighs 13Kg, 10Kg less than an equivalent steel shaft. These motors delivered 1100 bhp in 24 hour race trim and rumour has it that some of the 'qualifying' engines had 1500 bhp. They could break traction on the rear wheels at 200mph. I think I'm right in saying that they are still the most powerful cars ever brought to Le Mans and one of them holds the all-time lap record at 3' 13.6" and always will, since they added a chicane in the Mulsanne straight the next year to limit the insane speeds being achieved on that long, long stretch of road. Weight saving measures were so extreme on these cars that the tubular chassis was used to pipe engine oil to the oil coolers and the gear knob was turned out of birch.

Very nice series but for me the con rods are the stars! Incredible artwork!

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NicholasD wrote:

These are wonderful - thanks for posting. Some thoughts below...

(was Goodwood the Revival? I went in '99 and 2000 and there never would have been a contemporary car in the paddock)

It was one of the Festival of Speed days. A big highlight was Honda's stand where they had all the landmark bikes and ran up each of the engines for ten minutes or so at intervals during the day. Never saw a queue like it. At one point the mechanics in charge, all in their white overalls and white cotton gloves, suddenly lined up in a sort of guard of honour while a little guy came onto the stand and shook their hands with much bowing. It was Tommy Robb; they treated him as if he were a king. Wonderful to see. We were so close to the gate in the end rail of the fence that we had to move to the side to let him get in.

We were standing there, and not moving come what may, because we knew that quarter of an hour later they were scheduled to run up John Surtees' RA300 V12 Fi car and we were not going to miss that. Incredible sound.

edform wrote:

Some very good stuff in this challenge - thought these might fit...

Exhibit 1: D-Type Jaguar on show at Goodwood

Exhibit 2: Gearbox of one of the Toyota Le Mans cars - can't recall which.

Exhibit 3: Ford GT40 giving it some around a spectator-lined street circuit.

A GT40 at speed - Elkhart Lake, WI....

Nice shot.

The crank and rods are just gorgeous metal working art that is normally invisible. Coincidentally, I encountered intact examples of both engines a couple of months ago at Revs.....

W154

and a 917...

The Mercedes and Porsche museums are full of this stuff and the Auto Union GP racers in the Audi Museum at Ingolstadt are beyond wonderful - but then, they were all built by British engineers and craftsmen in Sussex.

I appreciated your comments on LeMans below. I was a track marshal there in '95 at Mulsanne. Last practice was Thursday night from (I think) 8pm to midnight with a half hour break midway through. The corner crew cooked a dinner during the break with the last bit of sun dropping below the horizon. They started up again at 10 pm - perfectly still night and before you saw them, you heard them flat out coming out of the last chicane, then you saw the headlights reflecting off the guardrail, and then the lead group of prototypes crested the shallow hill a quarter mile away at 200 plus. Not a bad way to spend a summer weekend in France.

Wonderful captures - thanks for sharing

I have a sequence of images of one of these flat-12s set out in exploded format on a big flat surface, the noticeable difference is it has a steel crank. They were shot in the Porsche Museum.

Last time I was at Le Mans for the 24 hours was 1963 or 1964 - the year that all the Ford stuff retired with broken gearboxes. The next year they won by miles. Their big rivalry with Ferrari was all very well, but the star of the show to my mind was an insanely fast open cockpit Maserati which began life as a small capacity 'Birdcage' racer before being bought by a French stable and fitted with progressively bigger and bigger Maser V8s. That year it was 5.3 litres and ran in France's light blue national livery. At the start it fled into the distance and had lapped every other car by about lap 30 - blew itself to bits big time just as night fell, to an agonised groan from the French crowds. One of the drivers was Maurice Trintignant.

We went to the restaurant half way down the Mulsanne straight in the early evening and stood on the huge concrete wall at the bottom of the garden with the track only 20 feet away - not a marshall to be seen. The Maser went past several time at very close to 200mph. You'd see it appear in the corner at the top of the straight and pull out to overtake one of the slower cars - the Gordini cars were only doing about 105mph that year - and then, as if by some kind of elastic force, it was on you and past. Just wonderful. It was a year or 2 years later that the first official 200mph run down Mulsanne was recorded, but the French all thought the blue car had already done it the year we saw it run in the 5.3 litre version. I seem to remember that it never appeared again.

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AlwynS wrote:

edform wrote:

Some very good stuff in this challenge - thought these might fit...

Exhibit 1: D-Type Jaguar on show at Goodwood

Exhibit 2: Gearbox of one of the Toyota Le Mans cars - can't recall which.

Exhibit 3: Ford GT40 giving it some around a spectator-lined street circuit.

Exhibit 4: Agostini replica MV 500 triple. The world has forgotten how to make things as beautiful as this.

Exhibit 5: 1955 NSU Sportsmax - this was a 250cc single cylinder racer sold direct from the factory to privateer racers with a LOT of money. The Dustbin fairing, rear mudgard and petrol tank are all hand-beaten aluminium...

If you see one with its beaten metal bits painted, they will be magnesium - ask your friendly local metal basher about forming magnesium sheet - it is not easy. This particular machine was H.P. [Happy] Muller's personal example and I think the fairings etc are lacquered magnesium.

Exhibit 6: Hogslayer - A twin Norton engined world record setting drag bike. See Archives: The Hogslayer - Cycle News. This thing ate Harleys for breakfast and spit out the pips. There's a movie about it which is probably on YouTube but hard to find these days. It was this device that convinced me that drag racing was a worthwhile way for human beings to waste time.

Entry 1: A roller-bearing crankshaft from a Mercedes GP car of the late 30s - W154, Supercharged, 3 litre V12. It is made up of dozens of precision machined parts joined together with interference fits and screw threads and prevented from being twisted out of line by Hirth joints - the toothed face you see at the end is half of one of them. The thing was pushed together with very short tapered sections and then very high pressure oil was pumped in to swell the joints and allow the parts to be pushed home. It's simply jewelry.

Entry 2: Another view of the same crank - it's in the big Mercedes museum next door to the works. This view shows more detail of the conrods.

Entry 3: A solid Titanium crankshaft from a Flat-12, 1968, Porsche 917 Le Mans car - it's in the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart. It weighs 13Kg, 10Kg less than an equivalent steel shaft. These motors delivered 1100 bhp in 24 hour race trim and rumour has it that some of the 'qualifying' engines had 1500 bhp. They could break traction on the rear wheels at 200mph. I think I'm right in saying that they are still the most powerful cars ever brought to Le Mans and one of them holds the all-time lap record at 3' 13.6" and always will, since they added a chicane in the Mulsanne straight the next year to limit the insane speeds being achieved on that long, long stretch of road. Weight saving measures were so extreme on these cars that the tubular chassis was used to pipe engine oil to the oil coolers and the gear knob was turned out of birch.

Very nice series but for me the con rods are the stars! Incredible artwork!

I agree, they are simply gorgeous and no NC machines ever came near them, all hand made and machined by men with astonishing skills.

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edform wrote:

NicholasD wrote:

These are wonderful - thanks for posting. Some thoughts below...

(was Goodwood the Revival? I went in '99 and 2000 and there never would have been a contemporary car in the paddock)

It was one of the Festival of Speed days. A big highlight was Honda's stand where they had all the landmark bikes and ran up each of the engines for ten minutes or so at intervals during the day. Never saw a queue like it. At one point the mechanics in charge, all in their white overalls and white cotton gloves, suddenly lined up in a sort of guard of honour while a little guy came onto the stand and shook their hands with much bowing. It was Tommy Robb; they treated him as if he were a king. Wonderful to see. We were so close to the gate in the end rail of the fence that we had to move to the side to let him get in.

We were standing there, and not moving come what may, because we knew that quarter of an hour later they were scheduled to run up John Surtees' RA300 V12 Fi car and we were not going to miss that. Incredible sound.

Goodwood should be on everyone's list. Amazing place. One year they had 6 of the 36 Ferrari 250 GTOs racing, driven by the likes of Danny Sullivan. Not sure if anyone is racing them anymore given current value.

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Some very good stuff in this challenge - thought these might fit...

Exhibit 1: D-Type Jaguar on show at Goodwood

Exhibit 2: Gearbox of one of the Toyota Le Mans cars - can't recall which.

Exhibit 3: Ford GT40 giving it some around a spectator-lined street circuit.

A GT40 at speed - Elkhart Lake, WI....

Nice shot.

Thanks.

I have a sequence of images of one of these flat-12s set out in exploded format on a big flat surface, the noticeable difference is it has a steel crank. They were shot in the Porsche Museum.

Last time I was at Le Mans for the 24 hours was 1963 or 1964 - the year that all the Ford stuff retired with broken gearboxes. The next year they won by miles. Their big rivalry with Ferrari was all very well, but the star of the show to my mind was an insanely fast open cockpit Maserati which began life as a small capacity 'Birdcage' racer before being bought by a French stable and fitted with progressively bigger and bigger Maser V8s.

That must have been a handful given they started out as 2 liter 4 cylinder cars.

That year it was 5.3 litres and ran in France's light blue national livery. At the start it fled into the distance and had lapped every other car by about lap 30 - blew itself to bits big time just as night fell, to an agonised groan from the French crowds. One of the drivers was Maurice Trintignant.

We went to the restaurant half way down the Mulsanne straight in the early evening and stood on the huge concrete wall at the bottom of the garden with the track only 20 feet away - not a marshall to be seen. The Maser went past several time at very close to 200mph. You'd see it appear in the corner at the top of the straight and pull out to overtake one of the slower cars - the Gordini cars were only doing about 105mph that year - and then, as if by some kind of elastic force, it was on you and past. Just wonderful. It was a year or 2 years later that the first official 200mph run down Mulsanne was recorded, but the French all thought the blue car had already done it the year we saw it run in the 5.3 litre version. I seem to remember that it never appeared again.

Fun story, arguably from the greatest era in sports car racing.

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From the LA Auto Museum:

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edform wrote:

Some very good stuff in this challenge - thought these might fit...

Ed,

There are, indeed, some FINE shots in this challenge! And you've added a few nice ones, as well!

Exhibit 1: D-Type Jaguar on show at Goodwood

Oh, now THAT'S a beauty, that is!

Exhibit 2: Gearbox of one of the Toyota Le Mans cars - can't recall which.

Just a gear or two in that tranny!

Exhibit 3: Ford GT40 giving it some around a spectator-lined street circuit.

Still rather surprising that Ford did this in the FIRST place, and even MORE surprising they did it TWO MORE times!

Exhibit 4: Agostini replica MV 500 triple. The world has forgotten how to make things as beautiful as this.

Perhaps. But there ARE still some real beautiful designs scattered about here and there. But, different era, without all of the computers and electronics that dominate engine designs now, and are required for maximum performance and fuel economy, as well as emissions controls.

Exhibit 5: 1955 NSU Sportsmax - this was a 250cc single cylinder racer sold direct from the factory to privateer racers with a LOT of money. The Dustbin fairing, rear mudgard and petrol tank are all hand-beaten aluminium...

If you see one with its beaten metal bits painted, they will be magnesium - ask your friendly local metal basher about forming magnesium sheet - it is not easy. This particular machine was H.P. [Happy] Muller's personal example and I think the fairings etc are lacquered magnesium.

And ANOTHER beauty!

Exhibit 6: Hogslayer - A twin Norton engined world record setting drag bike. See Archives: The Hogslayer - Cycle News. This thing ate Harleys for breakfast and spit out the pips. There's a movie about it which is probably on YouTube but hard to find these days. It was this device that convinced me that drag racing was a worthwhile way for human beings to waste time.

Thanks for this! I'm not sure I've heard of it before. But, the name "Hogslayer" DOES sound vaguely familiar, for some odd reason...

Entry 1: A roller-bearing crankshaft from a Mercedes GP car of the late 30s - W154, Supercharged, 3 litre V12. It is made up of dozens of precision machined parts joined together with interference fits and screw threads and prevented from being twisted out of line by Hirth joints - the toothed face you see at the end is half of one of them. The thing was pushed together with very short tapered sections and then very high pressure oil was pumped in to swell the joints and allow the parts to be pushed home. It's simply jewelry.

Indeed, a work of art! I'd prefer a different background, more of a solid color, like what's on the bottom part of this image. But I don't imagine you had ANY control over that!

Entry 2: Another view of the same crank - it's in the big Mercedes museum next door to the works. This view shows more detail of the conrods.

I think, in some ways, I prefer this view. It's a tough call, though.

Entry 3: A solid Titanium crankshaft from a Flat-12, 1968, Porsche 917 Le Mans car - it's in the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart. It weighs 13Kg, 10Kg less than an equivalent steel shaft. These motors delivered 1100 bhp in 24 hour race trim and rumour has it that some of the 'qualifying' engines had 1500 bhp. They could break traction on the rear wheels at 200mph. I think I'm right in saying that they are still the most powerful cars ever brought to Le Mans and one of them holds the all-time lap record at 3' 13.6" and always will, since they added a chicane in the Mulsanne straight the next year to limit the insane speeds being achieved on that long, long stretch of road. Weight saving measures were so extreme on these cars that the tubular chassis was used to pipe engine oil to the oil coolers and the gear knob was turned out of birch.

Purpose-built, high-speed performance cars, built for pretty much ONE purpose: going as fast as possible around a circuit! Solid titanium! Now, THAT'LL cost a pretty pfennig or three!

Thanks for sharing the images, and showing a few things I've not seen before!

Sam

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Re: Mini Challenge #632: Motorsports Exhibits and entries

Nicholas,

So, are you wanting to include your shot of the GT 40 as an entry?!

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Ed,

Cool story! I wasn't even born yet (by a year or two) of the time you're talking about! I watched the Ford v. Ferrari movie, and thought it was pretty good. From what little I know of things, it was fairly true to life. But, as I said, I wasn't exactly around at the time, though!

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Jerry R wrote:

Jerry,

Thanks for the photos!

From the LA Auto Museum:

Nice dragster! Rather short, by today's standards, I think.

Another example of a VERY different era in car design and build!

Cool bike! Not one I've heard of before! But, then again, I've not been keeping tabs on the bicycling world as I used to do. Marriage and children tend to do things like that, at times.

Thanks for posting!

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A last few

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