Z5 + kit lens?

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shadowplay84 Forum Member • Posts: 65
Z5 + kit lens?

Hi all,

I finally decided to buy a z5, but  I cannot decide if I should go with the Z5+24-50 bundle or I should buy separately the z5 + 24-70f4.

I really like the size of 24-50, but I also like the quality of 24-70 f4 (and it looks not so big either).

Did some of you try them both? What do you suggest?

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Luke Forrest Contributing Member • Posts: 828
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I'd get the 24-70 over the 24-50. Faster aperture and longer range, it's just more useful. I'd also consider the 24-200 but it depends on what you shoot.

If I was shooting predominantly portraits, I'd go for the 24-70 for the 70mm f4. If Landscape, I'd go for the 24-200 as the constant F4 aperture of the 24-70 isn't as useful here. If street, the 24-70 for low light. For general photography, it's a toss up on whether you prefer a faster aperture or want more range.

NoosaPete
NoosaPete Regular Member • Posts: 407
Re: Z5 + kit lens?

Not sure where you live but I recently sold my X-t3 for a Z5 and was able to buy it from Teds cameras (Australia)  with the 24-70 F4 as a package.

I'm so pleased with my decision.

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LASR Regular Member • Posts: 320
Re: Z5 + kit lens?

You may get the Z6 + 24-70 f4 at the same price as the Z5 + 24-70 f4 depending on the promotions where you live.

Ruekon Senior Member • Posts: 1,668
Re: Z5 + kit lens?

I didn't buy into Z yet, but I'm having the DX 18-35/1.8 that roughly has the equivalent focal range of the 24-50/4-6.3. I love using it indoors with available light. But the 24-50 is much darker. You are lacking a portrait focal length. Moreover, according to your gear list, you like interchangeable lenses. The 24-50 has a plastic mount and is collapsible -- doesn't sound like your league.

Btw. Nikon.de offers Z5 bundles with all possible lenses at the moment: 24-50, 24-70 and 24-200 -- the latter even having a street price below the 24-70.

I can tell you from own experience: never miss a bundle offer when buying a new Nikon camera -- it's very hard to get comparable deals for lenses alone!

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OP shadowplay84 Forum Member • Posts: 65
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I live in Europe and here I cannot find the Z5 + 24-70 in kit, I Just see promotions for Z5+24-50

I have Fuji that I use only with prime lenses, I would like to have a nice Zoom range with Nikon so I Guess the 24-70 Is perfect for me. I prefer travel/street/portraits

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Ruekon Senior Member • Posts: 1,668
Re: Z5 + kit lens?

shadowplay84 wrote:

I live in Europe and here I cannot find the Z5 + 24-70 in kit, I Just see promotions for Z5+24-50

I have Fuji that I use only with prime lenses, I would like to have a nice Zoom range with Nikon so I Guess the 24-70 Is perfect for me. I prefer travel/street/portraits

Nikonrumors reported about New Nikon Z instant rebates in Europe just yesterday. They give examples for UK and Germany. WEX UK offers Z5+24-70 for 1579 pounds (instead of 1849 regular) -- awaiting stock though.

Nikon.de lists it for 1749 Euro (instead of 2049 Euro regular) -- in stock:  Z5 + 24-70 kit

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OP shadowplay84 Forum Member • Posts: 65
Re: Z5 + kit lens?

Maybe in Italy they think we are noobs

I cannot find Z5+24-70 available in official Nikon sellers

Ruekon wrote:

shadowplay84 wrote:

I live in Europe and here I cannot find the Z5 + 24-70 in kit, I Just see promotions for Z5+24-50

I have Fuji that I use only with prime lenses, I would like to have a nice Zoom range with Nikon so I Guess the 24-70 Is perfect for me. I prefer travel/street/portraits

Nikonrumors reported about New Nikon Z instant rebates in Europe just yesterday. They give examples for UK and Germany. WEX UK offers Z5+24-70 for 1579 pounds (instead of 1849 regular) -- awaiting stock though.

Nikon.de lists it for 1749 Euro (instead of 2049 Euro regular) -- in stock: Z5 + 24-70 kit

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LASR Regular Member • Posts: 320
Re: Z5 + kit lens?

shadowplay84 wrote:

I live in Europe and here I cannot find the Z5 + 24-70 in kit, I Just see promotions for Z5+24-50

I have Fuji that I use only with prime lenses, I would like to have a nice Zoom range with Nikon so I Guess the 24-70 Is perfect for me. I prefer travel/street/portraits

Yes, you are right, only at amazon and relatively expensive. At calumetphoto.de they have:

Z5 + 24-50 @ 1199 euros good price but the zoom has a very limited range and isn't at the level of the S lenses

Z5 + 24-200 @ 1689 euros this may be interesting although the lens is not at the same level as the 24-70 f4 S, but it's good for the type of zoom

Z6 + 24-70 @ 1949 euros

Z6II + 24-70 @ 2099 euros this seems a good deal and better than the Z6 combo at this price

Joop_S Regular Member • Posts: 496
Re: Z5 + kit lens?

shadowplay84 wrote:

Maybe in Italy they think we are noobs

I cannot find Z5+24-70 available in official Nikon sellers

Nikon Europe have this kit, in the Netherlands the price of the 2 kits Z5 + 24-50 and the Z5 + 24-70 f/4 are now €1499 and €1749 in the Nikon Store. Some dealers have lower prices, I don't look at all but the first I see it is €1369-€1699 and they are both on stock.

https://www.kamera-express.nl/producten/foto/fotocamera/systeemcamera#?brand=251&tags=2703

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OP shadowplay84 Forum Member • Posts: 65
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I saw some pretty good deals for the Z6+24-70, but the xqd card slot Is blocking me, I'm not willing to invest in new cards, adapters, etc

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xlucine Forum Member • Posts: 85
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shadowplay84 wrote:

Maybe in Italy they think we are noobs

I cannot find Z5+24-70 available in official Nikon sellers

Ruekon wrote:

shadowplay84 wrote:

I live in Europe and here I cannot find the Z5 + 24-70 in kit, I Just see promotions for Z5+24-50

I have Fuji that I use only with prime lenses, I would like to have a nice Zoom range with Nikon so I Guess the 24-70 Is perfect for me. I prefer travel/street/portraits

Nikonrumors reported about New Nikon Z instant rebates in Europe just yesterday. They give examples for UK and Germany. WEX UK offers Z5+24-70 for 1579 pounds (instead of 1849 regular) -- awaiting stock though.

Nikon.de lists it for 1749 Euro (instead of 2049 Euro regular) -- in stock: Z5 + 24-70 kit

Euros are euros, can you buy it from the german retailers?

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KR Photo Senior Member • Posts: 1,141
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I own both. I got the 24-70 as part of the kit and it’s a great lens, as many have noted. But I’m also building a small and light kit for hiking, street attempts and more casual shooting, so I grabbed the 25-50 when it first came out and intend to add the 28 and 40mm compacts when they’re available. The 24-50 is a great little lens and is underrated, in my opinion, plus it’s so small and light that it really fun to slap it on and just carry the camera around everywhere, especially after I’ve had a bigger and heavier lens on the camera for a while.

Having said that, the lens does have its limitations and thus isn’t good for some things, so I will have a full sized kit of lenses to run alongside my compacts, and that small lineup is built around the 24-70.

So if I were choosing one zoom, it’d be the 24-70 (or perhaps the 24-200), but I wouldn’t necessarily dismiss the 24-50. Check out the reviews and the sample images — people have gotten some great results with it.

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OP shadowplay84 Forum Member • Posts: 65
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I'm thinking of buying the Kit with 24-50mm and start with it, maybe in the future I can add a 24-70 or 28-70. I hope Sigma, Tamron will also start doing their zooms in Z mount!

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NowHearThis
NowHearThis Veteran Member • Posts: 4,155
Re: Z5 + kit lens?

shadowplay84 wrote:

I'm thinking of buying the Kit with 24-50mm and start with it, maybe in the future I can add a 24-70 or 28-70. I hope Sigma, Tamron will also start doing their zooms in Z mount!

B&H photo (and probably others) has the Nikon Z5 + 24-70/4 for $300 more than the Z5 & 24-50/4-6.  If you can swing the extra money, that would be worth it.

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Atahualpa Contributing Member • Posts: 531
Re: Z5 + kit lens?

shadowplay84 wrote:

I'm thinking of buying the Kit with 24-50mm and start with it, maybe in the future I can add a 24-70 or 28-70. I hope Sigma, Tamron will also start doing their zooms in Z mount!

Or rather one of the excellent primes.

The Z 5 + 24-70 kit is mentioned also at nikon.at, but not among retailers. Also nikon doesn't have any stock of it. I suppose it will take a while until it becomes available.

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Kolbalio16 New Member • Posts: 11
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I just ordered the Z5 24-70mm F4 kit in the Uk, it was the last one left, all the other UK shops were taking back orders though but no exact delivery date. I’ve only just noticed the 24-70mm kit option come up in the last week with the Z5 as I was about to pull the trigger on the 24-50mm kit, I’ve seen that plus an FTZ going for 1399 which is amazing! The 24-70 kit must be quite new for the Z5. I also looked at the Z6 but that XQD put me off.

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