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Pentax Spotamatic F

Started May 5, 2021 | Discussions
OP Kalimetric Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Do you want checkers or ride? If you want a cool fashion accessory, definitely buy the Spotmatic – the most beautifully designed camera ever. If you want to actually take pictures, get something more modern.

Haha - I am genuinely finding this difficult, though.  It's sooo beautiful.  I think it might even encourage me to go out and take pictures.  Getting out there is the most important thing - can't take many pictures sitting in the house (although I'm working on that too!)
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Bob Janes
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Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Kalimetric wrote:

Do you want checkers or ride? If you want a cool fashion accessory, definitely buy the Spotmatic – the most beautifully designed camera ever. If you want to actually take pictures, get something more modern.

Haha - I am genuinely finding this difficult, though. It's sooo beautiful. I think it might even encourage me to go out and take pictures. Getting out there is the most important thing - can't take many pictures sitting in the house (although I'm working on that too!)
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The Spotmatic F will take great photographs. You don't get much in the way of information in the viewfinder, but it is a camera that inspires and gives you confidence.

Note that you only get open aperture metering if you use SMC M42 Takumar lenses - these have extra connection to pass the aperture value set on the lens to the camera.

If you want a similar standard of camera of a similar vintage with open aperture metering you might want to consider a Minolta SRT - Minolta SR lenses are pretty good quality and reasonably priced.

If you want more lenses that do open aperture but want to stick with Pentax, the K-bayonet KM and KX would fill the bill.

As far a quality of zoom lenses is concerned, back in the 70s zoom design tended to lag some way behind primes (this was a time before computer aided design made great advances in zoom lens quality and capabilities).

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OP Kalimetric Forum Member • Posts: 50
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

The Spotmatic F will take great photographs. You don't get much in the way of information in the viewfinder, but it is a camera that inspires and gives you confidence.

Note that you only get open aperture metering if you use SMC M42 Takumar lenses - these have extra connection to pass the aperture value set on the lens to the camera.

If you want a similar standard of camera of a similar vintage with open aperture metering you might want to consider a Minolta SRT - Minolta SR lenses are pretty good quality and reasonably priced.

If you want more lenses that do open aperture but want to stick with Pentax, the K-bayonet KM and KX would fill the bill.

As far a quality of zoom lenses is concerned, back in the 70s zoom design tended to lag some way behind primes (this was a time before computer aided design made great advances in zoom lens quality and capabilities).

I think if I bought this I would be sticking with the Taks.  And I don't use the viewfinder info much anyway in the digital, although that's more a product of me not being able to see well!  As long as I can focus properly then it's all good.  I manually focus on my digital anyway, habit from shooting with a Vivitar 28mm Close Focus for 10 years.
Minolta is interesting, but I think I would rather keep within the Pentax system.  I will look into the later cameras though.  Such a shame about the zooms though...

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Phil A Martin
Phil A Martin Veteran Member • Posts: 8,363
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Bob Janes wrote:

Kalimetric wrote:

Do you want checkers or ride? If you want a cool fashion accessory, definitely buy the Spotmatic – the most beautifully designed camera ever. If you want to actually take pictures, get something more modern.

Haha - I am genuinely finding this difficult, though. It's sooo beautiful. I think it might even encourage me to go out and take pictures. Getting out there is the most important thing - can't take many pictures sitting in the house (although I'm working on that too!)
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The Spotmatic F will take great photographs.

Photographers take great photographs, the camera is merely the tool they use to do so. Although the use of a vintage camera might make the experience more romantic.

You don't get much in the way of information in the viewfinder, but it is a camera that inspires and gives you confidence.

Note that you only get open aperture metering if you use SMC M42 Takumar lenses - these have extra connection to pass the aperture value set on the lens to the camera.

If you want a similar standard of camera of a similar vintage with open aperture metering you might want to consider a Minolta SRT - Minolta SR lenses are pretty good quality and reasonably priced.

If you want more lenses that do open aperture but want to stick with Pentax, the K-bayonet KM and KX would fill the bill.

As far a quality of zoom lenses is concerned, back in the 70s zoom design tended to lag some way behind primes (this was a time before computer aided design made great advances in zoom lens quality and capabilities).

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Bob Janes
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Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Phil A Martin wrote:

Bob Janes wrote:

Kalimetric wrote:

Do you want checkers or ride? If you want a cool fashion accessory, definitely buy the Spotmatic – the most beautifully designed camera ever. If you want to actually take pictures, get something more modern.

Haha - I am genuinely finding this difficult, though. It's sooo beautiful. I think it might even encourage me to go out and take pictures. Getting out there is the most important thing - can't take many pictures sitting in the house (although I'm working on that too!)
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The Spotmatic F will take great photographs.

Photographers take great photographs, the camera is merely the tool they use to do so. Although the use of a vintage camera might make the experience more romantic.

Good point - absolutely. My meaning was just that the Spotmatic F is a very capable camera and that it is unlikely to limit anyone's photography. Having said that, a lot of my photography benefits from being in the right kind of mood, and somehow the Spotmatic F puts me in a good mood...

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Phil A Martin
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Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Bob Janes wrote:

Phil A Martin wrote:

Bob Janes wrote:

Kalimetric wrote:

Do you want checkers or ride? If you want a cool fashion accessory, definitely buy the Spotmatic – the most beautifully designed camera ever. If you want to actually take pictures, get something more modern.

Haha - I am genuinely finding this difficult, though. It's sooo beautiful. I think it might even encourage me to go out and take pictures. Getting out there is the most important thing - can't take many pictures sitting in the house (although I'm working on that too!)
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Some of my photos here.
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The Spotmatic F will take great photographs.

Photographers take great photographs, the camera is merely the tool they use to do so. Although the use of a vintage camera might make the experience more romantic.

Good point - absolutely. My meaning was just that the Spotmatic F is a very capable camera and that it is unlikely to limit anyone's photography. Having said that, a lot of my photography benefits from being in the right kind of mood, and somehow the Spotmatic F puts me in a good mood...

Yes, I can appreciate that. With digital, I find it hard to replicate the feelings I get with my RB67.

I'd love a vintage m42 Pentax camera but I'm not sure why?

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Bob Janes
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Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Phil A Martin wrote:

Bob Janes wrote:

Phil A Martin wrote:

Bob Janes wrote:

Kalimetric wrote:

Do you want checkers or ride? If you want a cool fashion accessory, definitely buy the Spotmatic – the most beautifully designed camera ever. If you want to actually take pictures, get something more modern.

Haha - I am genuinely finding this difficult, though. It's sooo beautiful. I think it might even encourage me to go out and take pictures. Getting out there is the most important thing - can't take many pictures sitting in the house (although I'm working on that too!)
--
Some of my photos here.
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The Spotmatic F will take great photographs.

Photographers take great photographs, the camera is merely the tool they use to do so. Although the use of a vintage camera might make the experience more romantic.

Good point - absolutely. My meaning was just that the Spotmatic F is a very capable camera and that it is unlikely to limit anyone's photography. Having said that, a lot of my photography benefits from being in the right kind of mood, and somehow the Spotmatic F puts me in a good mood...

Yes, I can appreciate that. With digital, I find it hard to replicate the feelings I get with my RB67.

I'd love a vintage m42 Pentax camera but I'm not sure why?

I think the why is easy: Size and weight are good and the controls are simple and easy to use. The focusing action on those m42 Takumars is still buttery smooth all these years later and the glass is good quality too. Add in the aesthetics and I quite see the appeal.

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Phil A Martin
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Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Bob Janes wrote:

Phil A Martin wrote:

Bob Janes wrote:

Phil A Martin wrote:

Bob Janes wrote:

Kalimetric wrote:

Do you want checkers or ride? If you want a cool fashion accessory, definitely buy the Spotmatic – the most beautifully designed camera ever. If you want to actually take pictures, get something more modern.

Haha - I am genuinely finding this difficult, though. It's sooo beautiful. I think it might even encourage me to go out and take pictures. Getting out there is the most important thing - can't take many pictures sitting in the house (although I'm working on that too!)
--
Some of my photos here.
https://www.instagram.com/kalimetric/

The Spotmatic F will take great photographs.

Photographers take great photographs, the camera is merely the tool they use to do so. Although the use of a vintage camera might make the experience more romantic.

Good point - absolutely. My meaning was just that the Spotmatic F is a very capable camera and that it is unlikely to limit anyone's photography. Having said that, a lot of my photography benefits from being in the right kind of mood, and somehow the Spotmatic F puts me in a good mood...

Yes, I can appreciate that. With digital, I find it hard to replicate the feelings I get with my RB67.

I'd love a vintage m42 Pentax camera but I'm not sure why?

I think the why is easy:

I'm not sure why I need one, when I have several Pentax K fit bodies lying unused.

Size and weight are good and the controls are simple and easy to use. The focusing action on those m42 Takumars is still buttery smooth all these years later and the glass is good quality too. Add in the aesthetics and I quite see the appeal.

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MarBa Senior Member • Posts: 1,038
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Kalimetric wrote:

Do you want checkers or ride? If you want a cool fashion accessory, definitely buy the Spotmatic – the most beautifully designed camera ever. If you want to actually take pictures, get something more modern.

Haha - I am genuinely finding this difficult, though. It's sooo beautiful. I think it might even encourage me to go out and take pictures. Getting out there is the most important thing - can't take many pictures sitting in the house (although I'm working on that too!)
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https://www.instagram.com/kalimetric/

I would suggest Pentax MX - beautiful large OVF!

https://www.lomography.com/magazine/319909-cameras-in-depth-slr-viewfinders

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rhlpetrus Forum Pro • Posts: 27,171
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Kalimetric wrote:

Ah, this would be a gamble purchase. It's being sold as an antique, so no way of knowing whether the lightmeter is working!
As regards lenses, I used to change them all the time, but recently I've been finding myself just sticking to the kit lens. I think I've missed a lot of shots in the past due to trying to fit a shot into a prime lens. I think I'm done with that. So I would probably seek out an m42 zoom that goes from wide to middle. Of course, I'd happily keep the 28mm around, but my shoulder can only take so much weight nowadays.

My first “serious” camera, purchased in late 1974 with the excellent Takumar SMC 50 f/1.4. Classinc bokeh and great flare characteristics, reflections of much softer colors than current lenses.

Still working perfectly except for light metering. Anyway, its meter was very limited, so it’s better to get a hh one, I always used a spotmeter one and zone system. Despite the camera model name, its meter was not a spotmeter.

Unless the lenses are in very good shape, maybe a bayonet mount model would make more lenses available to you.

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KentG Veteran Member • Posts: 4,825
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

One point, the lens you are showing is the second version of the Tamron 28-200/3.5-5.6 AF super zoom. Its not an Adaptall-2 lens as those are manual focus lenses with interchangeable mounts.

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kypfer Contributing Member • Posts: 985
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

KentG wrote:

One point, the lens you are showing is the second version of the Tamron 28-200/3.5-5.6 AF super zoom. Its not an Adaptall-2 lens as those are manual focus lenses with interchangeable mounts.

Kent Gittings

Yes, the PICTURE shows a fixed-mount lens but the TEXT refers to the #171A Adaptall-2 version as well as the fixed-mount variants.

I have this lens in it's Adaptall-2 variation and used it for many years on my Fujica film slr's before replacing the mount for use on my Pentax cameras. It's quite a rare beast, possibly the most sophisticated manual-focus zoom ever available for the amateur market, but none the worse for that!

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Phil A Martin
Phil A Martin Veteran Member • Posts: 8,363
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

KentG wrote:

One point, the lens you are showing is the second version of the Tamron 28-200/3.5-5.6 AF super zoom. Its not an Adaptall-2 lens as those are manual focus lenses with interchangeable mounts.

Good point. As for me, I can't really see the point of using a vintage camera, if you are then going to use modern lenses on it. Surely the whole point of using vintage cameras, is using the vintage lenses that were designed for them?

Kent Gittings

kypfer Contributing Member • Posts: 985
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Phil A Martin wrote:

KentG wrote:

One point, the lens you are showing is the second version of the Tamron 28-200/3.5-5.6 AF super zoom. Its not an Adaptall-2 lens as those are manual focus lenses with interchangeable mounts.

Good point. As for me, I can't really see the point of using a vintage camera, if you are then going to use modern lenses on it. Surely the whole point of using vintage cameras, is using the vintage lenses that were designed for them?

Kent Gittings

Absolutely … but, in this particular case, one could possibly argue that this specific Tamron Adaptall-2 lens was maybe the last lens to be designed for the M42 system

I decided to give up using "vintage" cameras when photographic chemicals and paper were no longer available locally and I had to order them by mail. I kept most of the lenses though, the M42 lenses being used on my Pentax's with the appropriate adaptor, when the mood takes me, and my old Russian r/f lenses get an airing on a s/h mirrorless with an electronic viewfinder.

Each to their own

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Phil A Martin
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Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

kypfer wrote:

Phil A Martin wrote:

KentG wrote:

One point, the lens you are showing is the second version of the Tamron 28-200/3.5-5.6 AF super zoom. Its not an Adaptall-2 lens as those are manual focus lenses with interchangeable mounts.

Good point. As for me, I can't really see the point of using a vintage camera, if you are then going to use modern lenses on it. Surely the whole point of using vintage cameras, is using the vintage lenses that were designed for them?

Kent Gittings

Absolutely … but, in this particular case, one could possibly argue that this specific Tamron Adaptall-2 lens was maybe the last lens to be designed for the M42 system

But it wasn't designed for the M42 system, it was released when the production of m42 cameras had ceased and Pentax had moved over to the K mount. They might have continued to supply M42 adapters for those using older cameras but they also released adapters for all other camera mounts. It was no more designed for M42, than it was designed for Nikon or Olympus. Obviously people can do what they like but IMHO it would be incongruous to attach such a lens to a vintage Spotmatic.

I decided to give up using "vintage" cjameras when photographic chemicals and paper were no longer available locally and I had to order them by mail. I kept most of the lenses though, the M42 lenses being used on my Pentax's with the appropriate adaptor, when the mood takes me, and my old Russian r/f lenses get an airing on a s/h mirrorless with an electronic viewfinder.

Each to their own

kypfer Contributing Member • Posts: 985
Re: Pentax Spotamatic F

Phil A Martin wrote:

kypfer wrote:

Phil A Martin wrote:

KentG wrote:

One point, the lens you are showing is the second version of the Tamron 28-200/3.5-5.6 AF super zoom. Its not an Adaptall-2 lens as those are manual focus lenses with interchangeable mounts.

Good point. As for me, I can't really see the point of using a vintage camera, if you are then going to use modern lenses on it. Surely the whole point of using vintage cameras, is using the vintage lenses that were designed for them?

Kent Gittings

Absolutely … but, in this particular case, one could possibly argue that this specific Tamron Adaptall-2 lens was maybe the last lens to be designed for the M42 system

But it wasn't designed for the M42 system, it was released when the production of m42 cameras had ceased and Pentax had moved over to the K mount. They might have continued to supply M42 adapters for those using older cameras but they also released adapters for all other camera mounts. It was no more designed for M42, than it was designed for Nikon or Olympus. Obviously people can do what they like but IMHO it would be incongruous to attach such a lens to a vintage Spotmatic.

Absolutely agree, but, in this specific circumstance, the original post in the thread mentioned "although I'm thinking that I would prefer a zoom lens that matches the kit on the k50" and "my shoulder can only take so much weight nowadays" in his reply, so in this context, this Tamron, IMHO, might be the best choice. More "period" zooms, such as early Tamrons or the Vivitar TX series, were both limited in range and somewhat heavier, the Vivitar 90-230mm TX, for instance, is over 900gm and you still need to find a 28-80mm to fill out the range.

Just trying to help

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