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Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 + Sony VCL-ECU2 Vs Laowa 10mm f/2 Zero-D MFT

Started Apr 29, 2021 | Discussions
JordiAg New Member • Posts: 11
Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 + Sony VCL-ECU2 Vs Laowa 10mm f/2 Zero-D MFT

Hi there!

I'm here to ask about your opinion on this topic. I own a magnificent Panasonic Leica 8-18mm f/2.8-4 for real estate projects and serious architecture photography (together with my G9), but now I would like to have something wide and a little bit more compact for my Lumix Gx9 to do some street photography and urban exploration. I've been searching on internet and I came up with these 3 alternatives:

1. Laowa 7.5mm f2: too wide for what I want.

2. Laowa 10mm f2: looks like a very nice option. Compact (4,1cm), light (125grs), sharp, fast and reasonably priced (400$ or 330€). I'm not that used to the MF, but I think I could deal with it!

3. Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 + Sony VCL-ECU2: I came up with these idea on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxuBYnwl79A). It looks like an interesting option for something wide: not too big (2cm+6,6cm=8,6cm), not too heavy (125gr+55gr=180gr), cheaper (220€ in total), AF, 21mm and still quite fast (f2.5).

What's your opinion? Do you think the iq of both options is comparable? Would  you spend 100€ to go for the laowa?

Thanks folks!

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Gnine Senior Member • Posts: 4,108
Re: Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 + Sony VCL-ECU2 Vs Laowa 10mm f/2 Zero-D MFT
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I have both the Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 plus the Panasonic GWC? wide angle converter, and aso the Laowa 10mm f/2. I would go the Laowa every single time. Nice colour, contrast, & pretty crisp out to the edges. I'd say the Laowa is just as good as the PL 8-18 @ 10mm. And I'm a big fan of both lenses

Jappie52 Regular Member • Posts: 450
Re: Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 + Sony VCL-ECU2 Vs Laowa 10mm f/2 Zero-D MFT

Curious to know where you found the Laowa 10mm for 330€? Thanks!

UrbanHobbit
UrbanHobbit Contributing Member • Posts: 998
Re: Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 + Sony VCL-ECU2 Vs Laowa 10mm f/2 Zero-D MFT
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I recently tried the Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 with both the Sony VCL-ECU1 (as reviewed in that YouTube video) and the Panasonic DMW-GWC1 screw-on adapter. I found them to be equivalent in sharpness, maybe even a slight advantage to the Sony. However, the Sony, not being designed for the 25mm, uses a clip-on attachment system that I found to be fairly flimsy when rigged this way. I felt it would fall off with the slightest bump. Given its very bulbous front element and no filter threads, I was sure it would be damaged before too long. I kept the DMW-GWC1 for my purposes (shooting while walking around and also the Olympics this summer). Having said all that, I think the Sony adapter would work fine in a less dynamic application, say mounted on a static rig for vlogging.

Optically, neither of these wide-angle solutions produces what I'd call a wow-factor result. However, at ~US$95 for the Sony adapter and ~US$135 for the Panasonic adapter (used on Amazon Japan), they are almost certainly the cheapest way to get sharp ultrawide with autofocus, particularly if you already have the 25mm f/2.5.

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G1Houston Veteran Member • Posts: 3,188
14mm f/2.5, but YMMV

It is a much better FL for general "street" photography.

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cba_melbourne
cba_melbourne Veteran Member • Posts: 5,850
Re: Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 + Sony VCL-ECU2 Vs Laowa 10mm f/2 Zero-D MFT

JordiAg wrote:

........

What's your opinion? Do you think the iq of both options is comparable? Would you spend 100€ to go for the laowa?

Thanks folks!

The 14mm is THE smallest and lightest AF lens in the m43 world. It was introduced in 2010, meaning it is easy to find it second hand at a good price. If you want small/light/lowcost with Autofocus, and 14mm is wide enough, go for it. But if you really want wider, then I feel the 14mm plus a wide converter is inferior to a dedicated UWA lens. The converter adds too much bulk, and there is always a "fiddling factor" with a two piece lens.

You could look at the Olympus 12mm too, but even used it is a more expensive lens. It is small, and it has the very useful snap focus clutch usually found on Olympus-PRO lenses (works perfect on Panasonic cameras), and a premium metal build in it's favor too. It has slight field curvature if that is a rendering feature you appreciate. I have both the 14 and the 12, I regard the 14 as a low cost, expendable go anywhere/take-risks lens, not a big drama if damaged/stolen/soiled. The 12 I am more careful with.

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PC UK Regular Member • Posts: 125
Re: Panasonic 14mm f/2.5 + Sony VCL-ECU2 Vs Laowa 10mm f/2 Zero-D MFT

Until recently - there was a great shortage of affordable ultrawide options for micro 4/3, which is why many of us tried using wide converter lenses on the front of the Lumix 14mm F2.5

This has changed with the arrival of three sub $100 lenses

  • 7.5mm F2.8 FF Fisheye from 7-Artisans (and others)
  • 10mm F5.6 from Brightin Star and Pergear
  • 10mm F8.0 from Rockstar and Pergear
    • these last 2 were launched in late 2021

Drawbacks -

  • all are manual focus and either manual aperture or fixed aperture
  • The F8 10mm shows a lot of colour changes
  • the 7.5mm needs defishing to be rectilinear
  • the 10mm lenses are more "curvilinear" - in that there is a lot of barrel distortion but it doesn't look bad uncorrected if you compose with this in mind - but if you want rectilinear images, then correction software is needed (though free for Mac and Windows from Hugin)
  • None match the image quality of the Laowa 10mm f/2 or the ultrawide Lumix and Zuiko zooms - but there prices are very different and may make the difference for amateurs
    • but the 10mm F5.6 is the closest
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