EFS 18-55 lens replacement/upgrade

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Rigberg New Member • Posts: 12
EFS 18-55 lens replacement/upgrade

Hello.

It seems my starter lens', the EFS 18-55, autofocus has ceased to work. I've done some preliminary research and I am wondering if I would be better off replacing the lens with it's current day counterpart or going in a different direction, specifically the EF-S 10-18mm IS STM.

I have the EF-S 55-250 zoom lens that came with the camera and I have purchased the 50mm 1.8 lens.

I am not sure that I will need the intermediate zoom. I plan to travel soon (Yosemite) and I am also thinking the wide angle would be much better for the landscape photography I would like to do.

Thanks for the input!

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Gam3r01 Forum Member • Posts: 66
Re: EFS 18-55 lens replacement/upgrade

That depends mostly on what you want to do with the camera, I personally couldnt live without the 18-55 range back on my T6.

I considered upgrading to the 18-135 for its better image quality, focus motor, and added reach for a walkaround lens, but ended up saving the money for a new camera all together.

The wide angle lens would certainly be nice for landscapes, and the 55-250 is good for wildlife, but I wouldnt consider them walk around lenses, those are more suited for planned shots. Who knows if you are admiring a landscape and suddenly see an animal you want a picture of, you will not have time to change lenses.

I personally would get another "kit" general zoom lens first.

Another fun task is going through pictures you already took and see what your most commonly used focal lengths were, and if you find yourself missing anything.

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MasterWayne Forum Member • Posts: 79
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As always, it depends on your shooting style.

I once did a trip to Iceland, which included a 4 days hike. To save weight, I only took my 10-18 and the 55-250 STM with me for the hike. That was a pretty bad decision.. Often I ended up wanting more reach than 18mm, but needed to do panoramas with the 55mms, which after a while annoyed me quite a bit. And best of all, I was lens swapping nonstop.

My take away was that for my style ~24mm (FF equiv.) is mostly wide enough. Once in a while ultra wide angle gives awesome results, but the normal range is a must for me.

If you plan to stay on aps-c, maybe the 15-85 is a good option for you?

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OP Rigberg New Member • Posts: 12
Re: EFS 18-55 lens replacement/upgrade

Thank you for the feedback!

I've found this lens for $300, any thoughts? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/351548-USA/Canon_9517A002BA_EF_S_17_85mm_f_4_5_6_IS.html

Also, could someone explain the difference between the EF-S 18-55mm STM vs the 18-55mm IS II (besides $50)?

MasterWayne Forum Member • Posts: 79
Re: EFS 18-55 lens replacement/upgrade

Rigberg wrote:

Thank you for the feedback!

I've found this lens for $300, any thoughts? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/351548-USA/Canon_9517A002BA_EF_S_17_85mm_f_4_5_6_IS.html

Also, could someone explain the difference between the EF-S 18-55mm STM vs the 18-55mm IS II (besides $50)?

I don't know that model, the dpreview database shows it's REALLY old.. Not sure if I would go for that.

If you want to get a 18-55mm again, definitely go for a STM version. Not only does it incorporate better AF, but also the front element doesn't rotate (invaluable for polarizer work, which I hope you have one, when planning to go to Yosemite 😉 ). I think it's sharper too, but not sure on that one.

BTW, what body are you using it on?

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Gam3r01 Forum Member • Posts: 66
Re: EFS 18-55 lens replacement/upgrade

Cant speak for that specific model, but the IS II is the one that came with my T6 and it was fairly bad. Poor AF speed, accuracy, and a painful rotating front element.

The STM is a far better choice for 18-55.

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OP Rigberg New Member • Posts: 12
Re: EFS 18-55 lens replacement/upgrade

Thanks again.

I'm on a T2i.

Do you have a recommended polarizer?

tdbmd Regular Member • Posts: 499
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Rigberg wrote:

Thanks again.

I'm on a T2i.

Do you have a recommended polarizer?

I would recommend the 18-135 NanoUSM as a really good all around choice on a crop body.  I have used mine often on a T3i as well as on a 7D and 7DII.

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Dareshooter Veteran Member • Posts: 5,023
15-85mm...

Would give you a wide  ish angle and also provide a decent overlap between the 55-250 and may help cut down on lens changes in the field.

MasterWayne Forum Member • Posts: 79
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Rigberg wrote:

Thanks again.

I'm on a T2i.

Do you have a recommended polarizer?

I like the Hoyas. The Hoya HD is really good and especially great value. It gives a little warm touch to the colors that I actually like. I also have the Hoya Gold and a really expensive B+W. The B+W has a stronger polarizing effect and is neutral on the colors, so you get what you paid for. But really, the Hoya HD is fine and I still use it on my 55-250.

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quiquae Senior Member • Posts: 2,081
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Rigberg wrote:

Thank you for the feedback!

I've found this lens for $300, any thoughts? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/351548-USA/Canon_9517A002BA_EF_S_17_85mm_f_4_5_6_IS.html

I have never used that lens myself, but it has often been criticized as soft, with few defenders. It is also really old, to the point where Canon's support web page says it will cease to repair the lens after September this year. I wouldn't spend more than $100 on it, let alone $299. If you want a one-size-fits-all solution, EF-S 18-135 STM is a much better behaved modern lens.

Also, could someone explain the difference between the EF-S 18-55mm STM vs the 18-55mm IS II (besides $50)?

The older IS II has a front element that rotates when focusing, which will drive you up the wall if you use C-PL; a really loud motor that also handles small motion very poorly, which makes servo AF and video AF painful, if not altogether impractical; and lacks full-time manual focus--that is, if you try to turn the focus ring without turning off AF, you risk breaking the lens.

On the plus side, it's $50 cheaper.

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OP Rigberg New Member • Posts: 12
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I really appreciate all the feedback.

Does anyone have experience buying a lens used on eBay?

TeeJay626 Regular Member • Posts: 393
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If you're still looking for a good replacement for the kit lens, I strongly recommend the Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 Contemporary. I've been using this lens for the last 5 or 6 years, and it's been on several bodies, from my original T3i, 60D, 77D and now my 80D.

It has better reach and a little wider than your kit lens, and the image quality is excellent. It has a nice zoom range as well, and the image stabilization is very effective. You can usually get a used copy in excellent condition for around $300.

The 17-85 you linked above is not a good lens. It was replaced by the 15-85, and is much better, although still fairly expensive.

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VideoRanger Forum Member • Posts: 84
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Canon EF-S 17-55 f2.8.

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tdbmd Regular Member • Posts: 499
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VideoRanger wrote:

Canon EF-S 17-55 f2.8.

I would agree that the 17-55 f2.8 is a really good choice unless you need a bit more zoom.  I use my 17-55 a lot for general purpose stuff and travel.

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OP Rigberg New Member • Posts: 12
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I ended up going for a used EF-S 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Nano from eBay for $266 rated in “excellent” condition from an authorized seller. I’m excited! Thanks for your guidance

tdbmd Regular Member • Posts: 499
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I think you will be happy with that lens.  I had the 18-55 as well as the 18-135 STM and 18-135 NanoUSM and ended up selling the first two and kept the NanoUSM version.  Probably my most used lens behind the 100-400 zoom

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MasterWayne Forum Member • Posts: 79
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Rigberg wrote:

I ended up going for a used EF-S 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Nano from eBay for $266 rated in “excellent” condition from an authorized seller. I’m excited! Thanks for your guidance

Sensible decision. Another point I was thinking about (that goes in favor for exactly this lens) is that your T2i (550D) is pretty old as well. Sure, I don't know how much you've actually used it, but just from the age itself, there might be a replacement necessary in the upcoming future.

And the 18-135 nano usm probably will give you the best AF experience on a mirrorless / liveView of all the options discussed. 😊

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Dareshooter Veteran Member • Posts: 5,023
Re: EFS 18-55 lens replacement/upgrade

Rigberg wrote:

I ended up going for a used EF-S 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Nano from eBay for $266 rated in “excellent” condition from an authorized seller. I’m excited! Thanks for your guidance

Great choice,the versatility of that lens is not to be underestimated , the image qualtliy is great too.I used to own the the STM version and loved it on my DSLR.

Dave
Dave Veteran Member • Posts: 5,706
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Dareshooter wrote:

Rigberg wrote:

I ended up going for a used EF-S 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Nano from eBay for $266 rated in “excellent” condition from an authorized seller. I’m excited! Thanks for your guidance

Great choice, the versatility of that lens is not to be underestimated , the image quality is great too. I used to own the the STM version and loved it on my DSLR.

That's the lens that came with my 80D, and I'm happy with its performance.
It's the lens I take when I want to go light and only one lens travels with me.

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