24mm and 50mm, or just 35mm?

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patricksmith32
patricksmith32 Contributing Member • Posts: 931
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I have had just about every modern Nikon lens at some point. To list a few of the normal or wide lenses, Nikon 24mm f/1.4, 24mm f/1.8, 20mm f/1.8, 28mm f/1.4, 28mm f/1.8, and 35mm f/1.4, 50mm f/1.4 and f/1.8, as well as 58mm f/1.4! Today I only own four lenses, and they are by far the best lenses I’ve ever used. They are all near perfect optically and still impress me each time I use them. I currently own the Tamron 35mm f/1.4E SP, Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8E VR FL, 24-70mm f/2.8E VR and Nikon 500mm f/4E VR FL. I happened to apparently get somewhat lucky with my copy of the 24-70mm VR, as it’s sharp corner to corner wide open. I’ve heard others who only get the same results at f/4 or above, so apparently there is some sample variation.

Before settling on the current kit I have as far as the wider two lenses, I also compared the Nikon 28mm f/1.4E to the Tamron 35mm f/1.4 SP. Both are honestly so good it’s impossible to declare a winner, so it’s down to what focal length you like better and for myself that’s definitely 35mm, so I kept the Tamron and returned the Nikon. Unfortunately there really is no comparison amongst other lenses including the Nikon 35mm f/1.4G or the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 Art. The Nikon 28mm f/1.4E and Tamron 35mm f/1.4E SP are without doubt the very best lenses at their given focal length. The Sigma 40mm f/1.4 Art is definitely close to the image quality of the Nikon 28mm f/1.4E and Tamron 35mm f/1.4E SP, but it’s quite large and somewhat of a weird focal length. Having said that it’s also a great lens and many people love it and praise it. I tried one and it was impressive but not for me. I rave about the Tamron 35mm f/1.4E SP, it’s by far my most favorite wide to normal lens I’ve ever owned or used. It’s near optical perfection, it’s as close to perfect as a lens can be. I’m not only a photojournalist/newspaper photographer, but I also buy and sell gear on the side. Being an NPS member and buyer and seller of gear, I’ve had the opportunity to test nearly all modern Nikon lenses. That’s dating back to 1998 and not many lenses from back then still hold up to today’s standards except for the AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8D ED-IF and the super-tele AF-I or AF-S lenses.

My point is that today there are many great lenses and even the 1.8G primes are very good. But if you want the best of the best, I would only recommend the Nikon 28mm f/1.4E, Tamron 35mm f/1.4E SP or the Sigma 40mm f/1.4 Art. Those three lenses are really on another playing field. I’m sure there might be a Zeiss Otus lens that is also extremely good optically, but I need autofocus. So for me and in the normal focal length range those would be my top three choices. You’ll be blown away by image quality coming from a Nikon 50mm f/1.4G! Which is not a terrible lens, it’s just old and not nearly as sharp as the more modern and more expensive professional level lenses I recommended.

 patricksmith32's gear list:patricksmith32's gear list
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 500mm F4E FL ED VR Nikon 24-70mm F2.8E ED VR Nikon AF-S 70-200mm F2.8E FL ED VR Nikon D500 Nikon D5 +4 more
CptAmerica
CptAmerica Senior Member • Posts: 1,799
Re: Photo Audit
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patricksmith32 wrote:

24-70mm f/2.8E VR ... I happened to apparently get somewhat lucky with my copy of the 24-70mm VR, as it’s sharp corner to corner wide open. I’ve heard others who only get the same results at f/4 or above, so apparently there is some sample variation.

I'm a little jealous... I went through multiple samples of the new 24-70 F2.8 VR, and they were not only disappointing through F4, but were downright unusable. I eventually gave up.

The focus speed on that lens is ridiculous.

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Nikon D850 Sigma 105mm F1.4 DG HSM Art Nikon D4 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8G ED Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.4G +7 more
anotherMike Forum Pro • Posts: 10,188
Re: 24mm and 50mm, or just 35mm?

All three, or honestly, probably just 24 and 35.

Wide angles, there's a big difference between seemingly "close" / "nearby" focal lengths, I shoot my landscape primarily with a 24 (actually a 25, but close enough) and a 35, and then a 20, and then perhaps a 50 at the outer edges of use. I couldn't live without a 24 and 35 for landscape.

For general purpose and studio work, I couldn't live without a 35 (or something close), a 50, and an 85.

Depends on what you do. But 24 and 35 are distinctly different viewpoints on your subject, so you really should eventually own both IMO.

-m

X Ray
X Ray Regular Member • Posts: 184
Re: 24mm and 50mm, or just 35mm?

pipnat51 wrote:

Summing up, 50 and 24, or just a 35?

If you need 24mm, then you need 24mm. There's really no substitute. Of course, only you can decide if you need it or not. A prime or 24-70 could work, or as I use for 24mm, a Sigma Art 24-35 f2. I typically only use the 24mm end of that lens. If I need 35'ish, I use my Sigma Art 40. For me, it replaces 35 and 50. If you have the budget, the Sigma Art 40 is ridiculous. At least consider it.

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Nikon D3S Nikon D800 Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.4D Sigma 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM Sigma 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art +1 more
nikpharm Regular Member • Posts: 295
Re: 24mm and 50mm, or just 35mm?

OP has already decided to grab 35mm 1.8g.

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patricksmith32
patricksmith32 Contributing Member • Posts: 931
Re: 24mm and 50mm, or just 35mm?

nikpharm wrote:

OP has already decided to grab 35mm 1.8g.

Hopefully he bought that used, otherwise I think that’s a bad buy. The Tamron 35mm f/1.4E SP is not much more, I got mine during the rebate for $699! It’s an incredible lens for the money and better than the $1,700 Nikon 35mm f/1.4G! In fact in my testing it’s also just as good as the amazing Nikon 28mm f/1.4E lens as well. I had a hard choice deciding on the Tamron 35mm and the Nikon 28mm f/1.4 lenses. I bought both to test side by side and both are so great it’s ridiculous. Both are near optical perfection and I would own both of if I had unlimited funds lol! Anyways the Nikon 35mm f/1.8G is a good lens, but for the money new, I would much rather have the Tamron. If Tamron ever offers another $200 rebate anyone reading this should buy it, I can’t recommend it enough. I used to always be satisfied with say the Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8G or VR. Both are very good lenses, but once you try or buy the Tamron 35mm f/1.4E or Nikon 28mm f/1.4E you realize what is now possible image quality wise.

 patricksmith32's gear list:patricksmith32's gear list
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 500mm F4E FL ED VR Nikon 24-70mm F2.8E ED VR Nikon AF-S 70-200mm F2.8E FL ED VR Nikon D500 Nikon D5 +4 more
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