Another set....

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mailman88
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Another set....
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...from my new 90D and what a challenge.  From 300D, 30D, 50D, 7D, 6DmkII and finally 90D.

90D's auto-focus and common settings is tough to figure out. I get different results daily. One minute I nail it, then the next pic fails.

Using 100-400mmII IS.

1250ISO, f/13, 1/640sec. at 400mm

1250ISO, f/16, 1/1600sec. at 321mm

3200ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 321mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/640sec. at 330mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 349mm

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LeicaEye
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Re: Another set....

mailman88 wrote:

...from my new 90D and what a challenge. From 300D, 30D, 50D, 7D, 6DmkII and finally 90D.

90D's auto-focus and common settings is tough to figure out. I get different results daily. One minute I nail it, then the next pic fails.

Using 100-400mmII IS.

1250ISO, f/13, 1/640sec. at 400mm

1250ISO, f/16, 1/1600sec. at 321mm

3200ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 321mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/640sec. at 330mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 349mm

Aloha, I had the same issues when I got my 90D - So I went back to basics, Single Point AF/Single Shot - half day with Aperture Priority and in the afternoon Shutter Priority.. I used 24mm/ 50mm/short Canon Zoom.. and I limited my Iso to 400..Auto WB & RAW..Happy Happy Happy... L

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1Dx4me
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Re: Another set....

nice images except i am upset that you cut off the lion's tail if you could only go back a few steps

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Myer Veteran Member • Posts: 3,254
Re: Another set....

Leica Eye wrote:

mailman88 wrote:

...from my new 90D and what a challenge. From 300D, 30D, 50D, 7D, 6DmkII and finally 90D.

90D's auto-focus and common settings is tough to figure out. I get different results daily. One minute I nail it, then the next pic fails.

Using 100-400mmII IS.

1250ISO, f/13, 1/640sec. at 400mm

1250ISO, f/16, 1/1600sec. at 321mm

3200ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 321mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/640sec. at 330mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 349mm

Aloha, I had the same issues when I got my 90D - So I went back to basics, Single Point AF/Single Shot - half day with Aperture Priority and in the afternoon Shutter Priority.. I used 24mm/ 50mm/short Canon Zoom.. and I limited my Iso to 400..Auto WB & RAW..Happy Happy Happy... L

Leica,

So what you did is turn your 90D into an expensive P&S camera.

I bought a 90D to replace my 70D that was giving me trouble after 5 years.

There was a lot of talk on these boards about AF issues. The recommendations were to turn of face detection. That solved a lot of the issues.

I played a little with the new extra small single point focus. I didn't do enough playing but I suspect that would have worked for the dragon fly.

I shoot a fair amount of action and as I get older single point to catch birds in flight is becoming difficult. So I tried 9 point. I found birds that were not small were losing focus between focus points. I could see it in the viewfinder.

I always wanted to try a 7D II replacement and kept waiting for one (I don't have a 7D). I just kept reading about the great focus system.

So I had to balance between Canon technology and age (I am about to turn 77 and still very active).

I was afraid the 7D Mark II would disappear and the much rumored R7 could take several years to become reality. And then, of course, it would requite a Mark II to become what action photographers want.

So I bought a 7D Mark II.

So now I have a 90D for a lot of what I shoot and a 7D II for a lot of what I shoot.

I find both the 90D and 7D II are excellent at what I do. But not in the same camera.

I would never turn a 90D into a point & shoot. I wouldn't limit ISO to 400 (current processing technology improves high ISO), I use M or Tv mode all the time (M to convince myself I know what I'm doing and Tv to get faster shutter speed, sharp photos), I've increased my standard shutter speed because of my age (there was a time when I could use 1/125 and now it's 1/400), I've been shooting RAW + JPG for quite a while.

LeicaEye
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Re: Another set....

Myer wrote:

Leica Eye wrote:

mailman88 wrote:

...from my new 90D and what a challenge. From 300D, 30D, 50D, 7D, 6DmkII and finally 90D.

90D's auto-focus and common settings is tough to figure out. I get different results daily. One minute I nail it, then the next pic fails.

Using 100-400mmII IS.

1250ISO, f/13, 1/640sec. at 400mm

1250ISO, f/16, 1/1600sec. at 321mm

3200ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 321mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/640sec. at 330mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 349mm

Aloha, I had the same issues when I got my 90D - So I went back to basics, Single Point AF/Single Shot - half day with Aperture Priority and in the afternoon Shutter Priority.. I used 24mm/ 50mm/short Canon Zoom.. and I limited my Iso to 400..Auto WB & RAW..Happy Happy Happy... L

Leica,

So what you did is turn your 90D into an expensive P&S camera.

I bought a 90D to replace my 70D that was giving me trouble after 5 years.

There was a lot of talk on these boards about AF issues. The recommendations were to turn of face detection. That solved a lot of the issues.

I played a little with the new extra small single point focus. I didn't do enough playing but I suspect that would have worked for the dragon fly.

I shoot a fair amount of action and as I get older single point to catch birds in flight is becoming difficult. So I tried 9 point. I found birds that were not small were losing focus between focus points. I could see it in the viewfinder.

I always wanted to try a 7D II replacement and kept waiting for one (I don't have a 7D). I just kept reading about the great focus system.

So I had to balance between Canon technology and age (I am about to turn 77 and still very active).

I was afraid the 7D Mark II would disappear and the much rumored R7 could take several years to become reality. And then, of course, it would requite a Mark II to become what action photographers want.

So I bought a 7D Mark II.

So now I have a 90D for a lot of what I shoot and a 7D II for a lot of what I shoot.

I find both the 90D and 7D II are excellent at what I do. But not in the same camera.

I would never turn a 90D into a point & shoot. I wouldn't limit ISO to 400 (current processing technology improves high ISO), I use M or Tv mode all the time (M to convince myself I know what I'm doing and Tv to get faster shutter speed, sharp photos), I've increased my standard shutter speed because of my age (there was a time when I could use 1/125 and now it's 1/400), I've been shooting RAW + JPG for quite a while.

All cameras are P&S - we the photographers just reset the parameters. I said, I went back to basics until I understood the camera.. Now, I use the full range of what the 90D offers.. L

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Myer Veteran Member • Posts: 3,254
Re: Another set....

Leica Eye wrote:

Myer wrote:

Leica Eye wrote:

mailman88 wrote:

...from my new 90D and what a challenge. From 300D, 30D, 50D, 7D, 6DmkII and finally 90D.

90D's auto-focus and common settings is tough to figure out. I get different results daily. One minute I nail it, then the next pic fails.

Using 100-400mmII IS.

1250ISO, f/13, 1/640sec. at 400mm

1250ISO, f/16, 1/1600sec. at 321mm

3200ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 321mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/640sec. at 330mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 349mm

Aloha, I had the same issues when I got my 90D - So I went back to basics, Single Point AF/Single Shot - half day with Aperture Priority and in the afternoon Shutter Priority.. I used 24mm/ 50mm/short Canon Zoom.. and I limited my Iso to 400..Auto WB & RAW..Happy Happy Happy... L

Leica,

So what you did is turn your 90D into an expensive P&S camera.

I bought a 90D to replace my 70D that was giving me trouble after 5 years.

There was a lot of talk on these boards about AF issues. The recommendations were to turn of face detection. That solved a lot of the issues.

I played a little with the new extra small single point focus. I didn't do enough playing but I suspect that would have worked for the dragon fly.

I shoot a fair amount of action and as I get older single point to catch birds in flight is becoming difficult. So I tried 9 point. I found birds that were not small were losing focus between focus points. I could see it in the viewfinder.

I always wanted to try a 7D II replacement and kept waiting for one (I don't have a 7D). I just kept reading about the great focus system.

So I had to balance between Canon technology and age (I am about to turn 77 and still very active).

I was afraid the 7D Mark II would disappear and the much rumored R7 could take several years to become reality. And then, of course, it would requite a Mark II to become what action photographers want.

So I bought a 7D Mark II.

So now I have a 90D for a lot of what I shoot and a 7D II for a lot of what I shoot.

I find both the 90D and 7D II are excellent at what I do. But not in the same camera.

I would never turn a 90D into a point & shoot. I wouldn't limit ISO to 400 (current processing technology improves high ISO), I use M or Tv mode all the time (M to convince myself I know what I'm doing and Tv to get faster shutter speed, sharp photos), I've increased my standard shutter speed because of my age (there was a time when I could use 1/125 and now it's 1/400), I've been shooting RAW + JPG for quite a while.

All cameras are P&S - we the photographers just reset the parameters. I said, I went back to basics until I understood the camera.. Now, I use the full range of what the 90D offers.. L

Quite often I see novices using a DSLR camera in a fully automatic mode. When I ask them about it the answer is I'm doing this until I know what I'm doing.

Of course, that will never happen. I tell them the only way to learn is try Tv or Av for a while. That will teach you about ISO and either aperture or shutter speed.

Then if you see the need you can tinker with M.

But staying on fully automatic teaches you nothing except it looks good.

I'm glad you now use a lot of what your 90D offers.

LeicaEye
LeicaEye Veteran Member • Posts: 3,797
Re: Another set....

Myer wrote:

Leica Eye wrote:

Myer wrote:

Leica Eye wrote:

mailman88 wrote:

...from my new 90D and what a challenge. From 300D, 30D, 50D, 7D, 6DmkII and finally 90D.

90D's auto-focus and common settings is tough to figure out. I get different results daily. One minute I nail it, then the next pic fails.

Using 100-400mmII IS.

1250ISO, f/13, 1/640sec. at 400mm

1250ISO, f/16, 1/1600sec. at 321mm

3200ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 321mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/640sec. at 330mm

2500ISO, f/10, 1/1000sec. at 349mm

Aloha, I had the same issues when I got my 90D - So I went back to basics, Single Point AF/Single Shot - half day with Aperture Priority and in the afternoon Shutter Priority.. I used 24mm/ 50mm/short Canon Zoom.. and I limited my Iso to 400..Auto WB & RAW..Happy Happy Happy... L

Leica,

So what you did is turn your 90D into an expensive P&S camera.

I bought a 90D to replace my 70D that was giving me trouble after 5 years.

There was a lot of talk on these boards about AF issues. The recommendations were to turn of face detection. That solved a lot of the issues.

I played a little with the new extra small single point focus. I didn't do enough playing but I suspect that would have worked for the dragon fly.

I shoot a fair amount of action and as I get older single point to catch birds in flight is becoming difficult. So I tried 9 point. I found birds that were not small were losing focus between focus points. I could see it in the viewfinder.

I always wanted to try a 7D II replacement and kept waiting for one (I don't have a 7D). I just kept reading about the great focus system.

So I had to balance between Canon technology and age (I am about to turn 77 and still very active).

I was afraid the 7D Mark II would disappear and the much rumored R7 could take several years to become reality. And then, of course, it would requite a Mark II to become what action photographers want.

So I bought a 7D Mark II.

So now I have a 90D for a lot of what I shoot and a 7D II for a lot of what I shoot.

I find both the 90D and 7D II are excellent at what I do. But not in the same camera.

I would never turn a 90D into a point & shoot. I wouldn't limit ISO to 400 (current processing technology improves high ISO), I use M or Tv mode all the time (M to convince myself I know what I'm doing and Tv to get faster shutter speed, sharp photos), I've increased my standard shutter speed because of my age (there was a time when I could use 1/125 and now it's 1/400), I've been shooting RAW + JPG for quite a while.

All cameras are P&S - we the photographers just reset the parameters. I said, I went back to basics until I understood the camera.. Now, I use the full range of what the 90D offers.. L

Quite often I see novices using a DSLR camera in a fully automatic mode. When I ask them about it the answer is I'm doing this until I know what I'm doing.

Of course, that will never happen. I tell them the only way to learn is try Tv or Av for a while. That will teach you about ISO and either aperture or shutter speed.

Then if you see the need you can tinker with M.

But staying on fully automatic teaches you nothing except it looks good.

I'm glad you now use a lot of what your 90D offers.

  Regards, L

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John Crowe
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Re: Another set....

Nice photos.  Well done.

I think some of the data you captioned must be wrong but I am on my phone and don't get the exif data if if is there.

Assuming they are correct I just wanted to mention that for still wildlife photography, for the most part you don't need to use f16 or even f10.  You don't need 1/1000s either.  For most of these shots 1/500 to 1/640 should be plenty to stop camera and subject movement.  f8 will sharpen up the lens and provide plenty of depth of field.  The key is to keep ISO as low as possible to get the best possible image quality.

I can't image that your ISO was 2500 for some of these it must have been 250?

Nice wideangle photos too, but again at 24mm with a still subject you don't need 1/1000s, 1/40 to 1/60 is plenty.

The 90D is awesome, enjoy the new camera!

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mailman88
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Re: Another set....

My style of shooting is very close, almost micro shots at 5 feet or less, narrow aperture is needed to create the right depth of field. I want my subject mostly in focus at this close range.
My Zoo pics....I’ve tried f/8 and yes the ISO drops but I want more depth of field (1/2 of the subject in focus).
Birds at the Zoo are very close, from 3 feet to 25 feet. So play with apertures till I’m happy with results.

My rule of thumb, I double my shutter speed at focal length. Example: At 400mm at least 1/800sec. Since my local conditions are constantly changing (sun to cloudy in seconds), my camera setup is set at high shutter speed with a narrow aperture at all times.

EXIF data is correct. First 2 pics are in the sun, the other pics are not.

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