camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

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OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a good camera

Blufftonian wrote:

The Nikon 18-140 DX VR zoom would be fine for you.

that's not the big magnification, as a photojournalist i need to stay in a distance when situation becomes dangerous, and be able to shoot photos and  videos of objects i don't want to come close to . that's why i am looking for something like 18-300 , ( i already have 50-200 but they are slow).

does nikkor , tamron or sigma has a good lense for this, i am aware they will not be perfect. but i hope there is one which is not bad quality. in dynamic situations

i can't change my lense in dynamic situation so i need a wide range.

i would also use my nikon d3400 with fifty nifty as a backup

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
Blufftonian
Blufftonian Contributing Member • Posts: 992
Re: D750 is a good camera

rob91 wrote:

Blufftonian wrote:

The Nikon 18-140 DX VR zoom would be fine for you.

that's not the big magnification, as a photojournalist i need to stay in a distance when situation becomes dangerous, and be able to shoot photos and videos of objects i don't want to come close to . that's why i am looking for something like 18-300 , ( i already have 50-200 but they are slow).

does nikkor , tamron or sigma has a good lense for this, i am aware they will not be perfect. but i hope there is one which is not bad quality. in dynamic situations

i can't change my lense in dynamic situation so i need a wide range.

i would also use my nikon d3400 with fifty nifty as a backup

Well, you've never told us exactly what kind of photojournalism you do, but if range is more important then get the Nikon 18-300 DX VR.  Of course it's heavier, larger and more expensive but that's the trade-off.

On a DX body, the 50 really isn't that useful as it's more of a short telephoto than a normal lens...well unless you need a faster lens in a low-light situation.  I assume it's an f/1.8 or f/1.4.

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 10-24mm f/3-5-4.5G ED Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR +5 more
OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a good camera

do you recommend nikkor over sigma ?

i think sigma has also the macro option

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
Blufftonian
Blufftonian Contributing Member • Posts: 992
Re: D750 is a good camera

rob91 wrote:

do you recommend nikkor over sigma ?

i think sigma has also the macro option

I own neither of these two 18-300mm lenses so I can't tell you which I think is better.

There is lots of info out on the web though...

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4267156

https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/18-300mm-vr.htm

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/nikon-af-s-dx-nikkor-18-300mm-f35-63g-ed-vr

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/sigma-18-300mm-f35-63-dc-macro-os-hsm-contemporary

Keep in mind that with non-Nikon lenses to update their firmware you'll probably need some sort of dock, not that you'll typically need to do this very often.  Also they may not be fully compatible with some Nikon features like lens distortion control and focus fine tuning.

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 10-24mm f/3-5-4.5G ED Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR +5 more
anycolourfloyd Regular Member • Posts: 295
Re: D750 is a good camera
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rob91 wrote:

Blufftonian wrote:

The Nikon 18-140 DX VR zoom would be fine for you.

that's not the big magnification, as a photojournalist i need to stay in a distance when situation becomes dangerous, and be able to shoot photos and videos of objects i don't want to come close to . that's why i am looking for something like 18-300 , ( i already have 50-200 but they are slow).

does nikkor , tamron or sigma has a good lense for this, i am aware they will not be perfect. but i hope there is one which is not bad quality. in dynamic situations

i can't change my lense in dynamic situation so i need a wide range.

i would also use my nikon d3400 with fifty nifty as a backup

Sell the 55-200 And buy an AF-P DX 70-300. It's a very fast focusing and sharp lens.

Then since you are concerned with macro, buy a Raynox DCR 150 and mount it on the end of the 70-300 And boom, you have more macro than you need in a small and light package.

Having said that, nobody knows why you need macro because nobody knows what your subjects are.

 anycolourfloyd's gear list:anycolourfloyd's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon D7500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM | C Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II +3 more
OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a good camera

there will not be many situatiosn in which i will need macro haha

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300MM F4.5-6.3 G ED

is it the one you mean? these are not expensive

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
anycolourfloyd Regular Member • Posts: 295
Re: D750 is a good camera
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rob91 wrote:

there will not be many situatiosn in which i will need macro haha

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300MM F4.5-6.3 G ED

is it the one you mean? these are not expensive

Yes but you want the VR one! It's inexpensive but I don't think you find a more universally appreciated lens on this forum for performance vs cost

 anycolourfloyd's gear list:anycolourfloyd's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon D7500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM | C Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II +3 more
OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a good camera

yeah i foudn one with vr

so i will have:

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300 mm f/4.5-6.3 G ED VR

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-200mm f/4-5.6G VR

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G

Nikon AF-P DX Nikkor 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR (d3400 kit lense)

what about kit lense , would you recommend upgrade?

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a good camera

nikon has so many 70-300 that's its confusing as they have difference performance

i found this

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300 mm f/4.5-6.3 G ED VR

but in this article they descrieb as more superior

Nikon 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3G DX VR AF-P

Nikon 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3G DX VR AF-P Review - Reader Comments (Page 5 of 5) (photographylife.com)

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
Gesture Veteran Member • Posts: 8,479
Re: D750 is a good camera
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Check which cameras the AF-P lenses fit.

https://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/lens-articles/general-nikon-lens-info/understanding-the-af-p.html

You seem to be doing fine with your talent.  I wouldn't sweat the lenses so much or add a gaggle of lenses all at once.

Enjoy the D7200.  I do think 2 card slots is valuable for a working photographer.

OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a good camera

if i understand correctly its mostly compatible for nikkon d7200

so which one to choose:

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300MM F4.5-6.3 G VR

or

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300 mm f/4.5-6.3 G ED VR

also it's admittedly cheap lense, so anything better for higher price in this focal lenght?

any other lesne you recommend instead of

nikon afp nikkor 18-55 vr?

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
anycolourfloyd Regular Member • Posts: 295
Re: D750 is a good camera
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rob91 wrote:

if i understand correctly its mostly compatible for nikkon d7200

so which one to choose:

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300MM F4.5-6.3 G VR

or

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300 mm f/4.5-6.3 G ED VR

also it's admittedly cheap lense, so anything better for higher price in this focal lenght?

any other lesne you recommend instead of

nikon afp nikkor 18-55 vr?

I think they're both the same. Most important is AF-P, DX, VR.

There are more expensive lenses but they're bigger and heavier, no point going down that path unless you find the 70-300 lacking in some specific thing that you need.

The AF-P 18-55 is great. Only reason to upgrade it is if you want longer reach or wider apertures. Both of these come with a size and weight penalty.

Honestly, 18-55, 70-300 and a fast prime is a well rounded kit. Though I prefer 35mm f1.8, I'm not a fan of 50mm focal length on DX but this is just personal preference.

 anycolourfloyd's gear list:anycolourfloyd's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon D7500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM | C Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II +3 more
Blufftonian
Blufftonian Contributing Member • Posts: 992
Re: D750 is a good camera

rob91 wrote:

if i understand correctly its mostly compatible for nikkon d7200

so which one to choose:

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300MM F4.5-6.3 G VR

or

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300 mm f/4.5-6.3 G ED VR

also it's admittedly cheap lense, so anything better for higher price in this focal lenght?

any other lesne you recommend instead of

nikon afp nikkor 18-55 vr?

As good as the 70-300 AF-P lens is, because it's a medium-to-long telephoto, I don't think you'll use it as much as you would a wide angle to medium tele.  At its widest, 70mm is the equivalent of 150mm on film or FF.  You won't be able to take shots of crowds with this.

So, put the 70-300 on your D3400 and put the (also excellent) 18-55 on the D7200.

Or consider a wide to medium with a larger range - 8-105, 18-140 - for the D7200.

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 10-24mm f/3-5-4.5G ED Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR +5 more
OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a good camera

do you really consider kit lens good?

and why should i put them on d7200 instead of d3400?

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
Blufftonian
Blufftonian Contributing Member • Posts: 992
Re: D750 is a good camera
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rob91 wrote:

do you really consider kit lens good?

and why should i put them on d7200 instead of d3400?

Of course I do. Have you read any reviews of the Nikon 18-55 AF-P?  It's an excellent lens even with its plastic mount and low price.

https://kenrockwell.com/nikon/18-55mm-af-p.htm

https://photographylife.com/reviews/nikon-18-55mm-dx-vr-af-p

https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/nikon/18-55mm-f3.5-5.6g-dx-vr-af-p-nikkor/review/

...and more.

One of my "kit" lenses is the 16-80 that I bought along with my D500.  It is probably the finest DX lens Nikon has ever made.

Why put the 18-55 on the D7200?  Because it will have the most useful range of any lens you own and you'll want to use it on the best camera you own.  Load the camera up with the two largest SD cards you can afford, and also consider getting the MB-D15, or equivalent, grip with an extra battery.

Also remember, as a photojournalist you won't be doing fine art photography.  Just about any lens from any major manufacturer will have good enough quality for your uses.

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 10-24mm f/3-5-4.5G ED Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR +5 more
Sactojim Veteran Member • Posts: 8,521
Re: D750 is a good camera

Blufftonian wrote:

rob91 wrote:

if i understand correctly its mostly compatible for nikkon d7200

so which one to choose:

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300MM F4.5-6.3 G VR

or

NIKON NIKKOR AF-P DX 70-300 mm f/4.5-6.3 G ED VR

also it's admittedly cheap lense, so anything better for higher price in this focal lenght?

any other lesne you recommend instead of

nikon afp nikkor 18-55 vr?

As good as the 70-300 AF-P lens is, because it's a medium-to-long telephoto, I don't think you'll use it as much as you would a wide angle to medium tele. At its widest, 70mm is the equivalent of 150mm on film or FF. You won't be able to take shots of crowds with this.

So, put the 70-300 on your D3400 and put the (also excellent) 18-55 on the D7200.

Or consider a wide to medium with a larger range - 8-105, 18-140 - for the D7200.

Good advice, Fact is that the preferred setup for photojournalists is a 17-55 or similar as shooting is done close at hand and not over 200mm max. Pro's use full frame too as that gets one into much lower light than a APS size sensor.

Rick Vansloneker
Rick Vansloneker Junior Member • Posts: 44
Re: D750 is a good camera

Blufftonian wrote:

...

One of my "kit" lenses is the 16-80 that I bought along with my D500. It is probably the finest DX lens Nikon has ever made.

...

If I could make money with my pictures I definitely would want that 16-80!

OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a good camera

okay

honestly i haven't been the fan of 18-55 , also in photojournalism i do less of portraits but more action in distance as sometimes not possible to approach a subject for security reasons

anyway your pieces of advice very helpful.

16-80 will change my life? it's a bit expensive

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
anycolourfloyd Regular Member • Posts: 295
Re: D750 is a good camera

rob91 wrote:

okay

honestly i haven't been the fan of 18-55 , also in photojournalism i do less of portraits but more action in distance as sometimes not possible to approach a subject for security reasons

anyway your pieces of advice very helpful.

16-80 will change my life? it's a bit expensive

what's your problem with the 18-55? Not sharp enough, not long enough, not wide enough aperture?

If the problem is distance then that's fixed with the 70-300?

 anycolourfloyd's gear list:anycolourfloyd's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon D7500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM | C Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II +3 more
Blufftonian
Blufftonian Contributing Member • Posts: 992
Re: D750 is a good camera
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rob91 wrote:

okay

honestly i haven't been the fan of 18-55 , also in photojournalism i do less of portraits but more action in distance as sometimes not possible to approach a subject for security reasons

anyway your pieces of advice very helpful.

16-80 will change my life? it's a bit expensive

Yes, it's actually a bit TOO expensive but when bought with a new D500 as a kit Nikon was offering $600 off. That's how I bought mine.

Many here will know that when Nikon brought out the 24-120 AF-D zoom in 1996 it instantly became a favourite of journalist who dubbed it "The Streetsweeper" because it could do anything an urban photographer might need. I still have mine but on a DX body it translates to 36-180 which is far less useful. So, in steps the 16-80, the exact same range on DX as 24-120 on FX.

On a limited budget, and wanting an all-around DX lens I'd pick an 18-140. I think you'd be using it 95% or more of the time. Yes, it's a "kit" lens but it's pretty solid with a metal mount. On an ever tighter budget I'd even consider an 18-105. Nikon made a ton of them and they were offered as a kit way back with the D90. I'm sure there's lots of used copies available quite cheaply, the quality is more than adequate for your needs, and while the plastic mount can break - mine did! - it's an easy fix.

As a journalist I'd be setting my D7200's shooting menu Image quality to JPEG normal (or even basic) and my Image size to Medium or Small as you don't need 24MP images and I'd just keep firing away!

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 10-24mm f/3-5-4.5G ED Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR +5 more
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