camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

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OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

what about nikon d750?

in reviews it looks better than d500 and d720

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

also i am looking to shoot not only photos but also video, i appreciate your feedback

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
Blufftonian
Blufftonian Senior Member • Posts: 1,006
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

The D750 is full frame.  Do you mean D7500?

Define "better".  In what ways?

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 10-24mm f/3-5-4.5G ED Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR +5 more
OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

yes 7500

currently i own d3400 which is beginner camera which imop problems with focusing from time to time

i am looking for something reliable especially in dynamic situation that can withstadn bad weather conditions and make good video

i lean toward d500 because in super fast situation it can shoot more per frame,

second hand is 1200 usd , shuttercount 127,000 what do you think

i want to use versitale lense such as tamron 16-300 i hope they help me focus fast in dynamic situation, but i will still have my d3400

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
Sactojim Veteran Member • Posts: 8,529
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

Blufftonian wrote:

Sactojim wrote:

Blufftonian wrote:

The D7200 is an excellent camera but it doesn’t have the build quality, weather sealing, or AF performance that the D500 does.

And as good a lens as the 70-200 is it’s also big, heavy and expensive. I’d have to really want that quality and speed to carry one in the field all the time. If I only needed a telephoto occasionally I’d probably go with the 70-300 AF-P lens.

Best you check the specs of the D7200 as it's weather sealed, same build quality, but the AF is faster on the D500 with more focus points, but they dropped dual sd card slots to single and no flash on the 500 of which the D7200 has both flash and dual card slots. Makes no sense to me why Nikon cut features.

I do have, use and like both a D7200 and a D500.

The pro-level D500 has a much more rugged build than the enthusiast-level D7200.

The D500 has two card slots: an XD slot (much faster and more rugged than SD, it also takes CFexpress cards) and an SD card slot. You are correct in that the D500 has no flash, which on the D7200 isn't really that useful and makes the D7200 much less weather resistant.

There are many other differences. The D500 has 1.0x viewfinder magnification (0.91x on the D7200) with a round eyepiece with a built-in light block shutter like a D5. The D500 is capable of 10fps continuous shooting (versus 6fps), a 200 RAW image buffer, 153-point AF with 99 cross type (versus 51 and 15), a faster processor, better detection range, Bluetooth capability, an articulating touch enabled LCD screen with double the resolution of the D7200's, 4K video capability, more buttons and controls on the rear of the body, etc., etc. Read up on both cameras specs and you'll find more improvements.

But, I still think that at its price point, the D7200 is an excellent camera. The D500 is simply a much better camera although it is a little bit larger, heavier and quite a bit more expensive.

The flash on the D7200 is in fact quite useful. I've seen/handled the D500 in my local camera shop and it's the same build quality. Do you have a link with your claim that the D500 uses more robust weather sealing? I've had no luck seeing that. Yes, the D500 has higher specs (except some are dropped), but then the OP is looking at cost and the D500 is double the cost of the D7200. Keep in mind the OP is using a D3400 and while a very good camera, for his needs the D500's high cost/features vs D7200 (or even the D7500) is likely more than he wants/needs. And having to buy/carry a Speedlight flash is another issue( like money). If money is a non issue, I suggest he move up to the Z6 or Z7 Mk II and have top tier, but still needing to purchase a flash. I still recommend a new D610, full frame, weather sealed and has flash and still found new at $750. Lots of choices.

Sactojim Veteran Member • Posts: 8,529
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

Sactojim wrote:

Blufftonian wrote:

Sactojim wrote:

Blufftonian wrote:

The D7200 is an excellent camera but it doesn’t have the build quality, weather sealing, or AF performance that the D500 does.

And as good a lens as the 70-200 is it’s also big, heavy and expensive. I’d have to really want that quality and speed to carry one in the field all the time. If I only needed a telephoto occasionally I’d probably go with the 70-300 AF-P lens.

Best you check the specs of the D7200 as it's weather sealed, same build quality, but the AF is faster on the D500 with more focus points, but they dropped dual sd card slots to single and no flash on the 500 of which the D7200 has both flash and dual card slots. Makes no sense to me why Nikon cut features.

I do have, use and like both a D7200 and a D500.

The pro-level D500 has a much more rugged build than the enthusiast-level D7200.

The D500 has two card slots: an XD slot (much faster and more rugged than SD, it also takes CFexpress cards) and an SD card slot. You are correct in that the D500 has no flash, which on the D7200 isn't really that useful and makes the D7200 much less weather resistant.

There are many other differences. The D500 has 1.0x viewfinder magnification (0.91x on the D7200) with a round eyepiece with a built-in light block shutter like a D5. The D500 is capable of 10fps continuous shooting (versus 6fps), a 200 RAW image buffer, 153-point AF with 99 cross type (versus 51 and 15), a faster processor, better detection range, Bluetooth capability, an articulating touch enabled LCD screen with double the resolution of the D7200's, 4K video capability, more buttons and controls on the rear of the body, etc., etc. Read up on both cameras specs and you'll find more improvements.

But, I still think that at its price point, the D7200 is an excellent camera. The D500 is simply a much better camera although it is a little bit larger, heavier and quite a bit more expensive.

The flash on the D7200 is in fact quite useful. I've seen/handled the D500 in my local camera shop and it's the same build quality. Do you have a link with your claim that the D500 uses more robust weather sealing? I've had no luck seeing that. Yes, the D500 has higher specs (except some are dropped), but then the OP is looking at cost and the D500 is double the cost of the D7200. Keep in mind the OP is using a D3400 and while a very good camera, for his needs the D500's high cost/features vs D7200 (or even the D7500) is likely more than he wants/needs. And having to buy/carry a Speedlight flash is another issue( like money). If money is a non issue, I suggest he move up to the Z6 or Z7 Mk II and have top tier, but still needing to purchase a flash. I still recommend a new D610, full frame, weather sealed and has flash and still found new at $750. Lots of choices.

Sactojim Veteran Member • Posts: 8,529
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

Blufftonian wrote:

rob91 wrote:

d7200 is significantly cheaper than d500

two card slots and flash is not really to th advantage in my opinion (correct me)

what lense would you recommend, i heard of lense such as 28-300 and if super sharp they are really expensive but i think it's really valuable to have such lenses that you don't need to change (right?)

Having two card slots gives you options. You can set one up as jpegs and the other as RAW, you can double up shots to both (so if one card has a problem you still have a backup copy of your shots) or you can set the second card to overflow.

The lens you chose is a compromise between quality, speed, size, range, weight and cost. There's no point in carrying around a lens capable of 300mm if you never use anywhere near that magnification. You might be better off carrying a smaller lens, or a faster one, or better quality. It depends on exactly what type of photojournalism you do and what kind of photos you take.

For many years I used the 18-105 "kit" lens (it came with a D90 I bought way back) as my "walk about" lens that I would travel with. The quality was decent enough but looking back over many photos I hardly ever used it at the telephoto end and 90% of my photos were at 18mm. So, I bought a 16-80. It's a much better quality (and more expensive) lens but it suits my travel photography a whole lot better.

Agree completely

Sactojim Veteran Member • Posts: 8,529
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

rob91 wrote:

yes 7500

currently i own d3400 which is beginner camera which imop problems with focusing from time to time

i am looking for something reliable especially in dynamic situation that can withstadn bad weather conditions and make good video

i lean toward d500 because in super fast situation it can shoot more per frame,

second hand is 1200 usd , shuttercount 127,000 what do you think

i want to use versitale lense such as tamron 16-300 i hope they help me focus fast in dynamic situation, but i will still have my d3400

Not to be flippant, but I think at this point you should spend time taking a introduction to photography to help you better understand the key to better photos. For your, needs 10 fps vs 6 is irrelevent. There is no magic camera, it's all about learning your gear. You say your D3400 has focus issues..ok, have it checked to see if there is indeed a problem with it or the lens or user error.  Hard pass on a D500 with that many clicks and no warranty.

Blufftonian
Blufftonian Senior Member • Posts: 1,006
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

rob91 wrote:

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second hand is 1200 usd , shuttercount 127,000 what do you think

Nikon rates the D500's shutter at 200K clicks (and the D7500 and D7200 at 150K).

So, I think 127K is a too high for that price.

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 10-24mm f/3-5-4.5G ED Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR +5 more
BrownieVet Senior Member • Posts: 3,811
D500 and Lenses

Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

rob91 wrote:

also i am looking to shoot not only photos but also video, i appreciate your feedback

I read EVERY POST in this forum.
I happen to agree 95% with Blufftonian.
If I were you, I'll get a D500 . . . but the $1,100+ for a camera with 125,000 shutter activation is too much.  Go to eBay.com,  membership is NOT required - - -search for D500 for new and used pricing. 
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Like you, a second memory card is NOT a deal breaker, specially when one is the expensive XQD.
Other than teetering the camera to your computer for file transfer, I doubt your computer has XQD slot.
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As for the lens, not knowing your specific intended use for a "extremely wide to 300mm " I agree with one of the post against such lens. I have four DX lenses (bundled with the DX bodies at purchase) and eight FX lenses. For my DX Nikon, 18-140mm f/3.5~5.6 is my walk about lens. It is practically welded to my D5300. I own another Nikon DX and two Nikon FX cameras.  I routinely use my FX lenses on my DX camera AS NEEDED.
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This is a link to NikonUSA website . . . lenses:
https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/camera-lenses/dslr-lenses/index.page#!/tag:IFw:Zoom
Below is a partial screen shot of medium tele-zoom FX lenses,  I inserted the DX lens.

FYI:  Nikon DSLR naming convention
D?    - One digit following D is Professional level.  D3 and later models are Fullframe.
D??  - Two digits after D were DX models. D90 was the last of the D?? models.
D???- Three digits after D are FX models. EXCEPTION:  D500 - the only DX body to-date.
_ _ _   D500 is consider Advance / semi-pro level.  Built is professional quality.
D???? - All are DX bodies.D3100, released in August 2010 was the first CMOS sensor, replaed D3000
 - - D3??? - entry-level DSLR
 - - D5??? - mid-level DSLR
 - - D7??? - high-level DSLR

Jocksa
Jocksa Senior Member • Posts: 1,125
Re: D500 and Lenses

BrownieVet wrote:

D???- Three digits after D are FX models. EXCEPTION: D500 - the only DX body to-date.
_ _ _ D500 is consider Advance / semi-pro level. Built is professional quality.

D100, D200, D300, D300s?

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 Jocksa's gear list:Jocksa's gear list
Nikon D850 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 16-35mm F4G ED VR Nikon AF-S Micro-Nikkor 105mm F2.8G IF-ED VR Nikon AF-S Teleconverter TC-17E II Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm F4G ED VR +3 more
BrownieVet Senior Member • Posts: 3,811
AGREE!

Jocksa wrote:

BrownieVet wrote:

D???- Three digits after D are FX models. EXCEPTION: D500 - the only DX body to-date.
_ _ _ D500 is consider Advance / semi-pro level. Built is professional quality.

D100, D200, D300, D300s?

Somehow,  I must have accidentally erased that line.  I own D200 and D300.  D300 is a workhorse!

OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D500 and Lenses

thanks for reply.

nikon d500 is large , finding something which is cheaper than 1200 usd is hard on ebay unless i want to bid on auction adn hope that within next 5 days the price will not come close to 1200.

in my bag i will also have nikon d3400, i am happy with it except its focus is slow.

so the only alternative to d500 is d750?

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: camera for photojournalist? upgrade from d3400

anycolourfloyd wrote:

rob91 wrote:

in contract to nikon d500 and tamron 16-300 which i am considering to buy now for phoojournalism (any criticism ???) (both second hand)

what full crop nikon and lense would you recommend ? in this price range

Personally from everything said, the d7200 sounds like better value for you rather than the d500 (and I want a d500 myself).

I don't think that the superzoom lenses you are looking at demand the world class AF of the d500. Not convinced the lens you are looking at is the best for the job either. But, I've never done photojournalism.. think you need some advice from some working professionals.

i am now more inclined toward d7200 because it's better value, smaller size

for 523 usd i can get a second one with a battery and charger - 28 k shutter count

i want to have the lense which will be fast and for many situations, that why tamron 16-300 as it offers not bad quality from macro, to wide aperture and large zoom

i know that d500 sucks a bit in video due to the cropping

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
BrownieVet Senior Member • Posts: 3,811
D750 is a FX body

rob91 wrote:

thanks for reply.

nikon d500 is large , finding something which is cheaper than 1200 usd is hard on ebay unless i want to bid on auction adn hope that within next 5 days the price will not come close to 1200.

in my bag i will also have nikon d3400, i am happy with it except its focus is slow.

so the only alternative to d500 is d750?

While all your current DX lens will work,  the camera AUTOMATICALLY defaults to DX cropped mode., which is approximately 65% of the entire sensor.  You could, of course,  elect to use FX mode but the edges and corners would not be sharp.
To take advantage of the entire sensor, you need FX lenses.
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If you want to upgrade to another DX body (other than the D500),  look at my previous post on
D5???  and  D7???  I do not know much about the D7??? series. 
In my opinion, the D5300 is the best of the D5??? series. RUMOR - D5400 is NOT good.
Auto-focus is not a deal breaker for me,  I prefer MANUAL focus.

OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a FX body

i am more inclined toward d750 as it has better focus and battery life is twice as long

what is alternative to the tamron 16-300 for full frame

and if i use this lense on full frame such as d750 , do i lose much?

i found

Tamron 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 LD Nikon

what you think

aactually

NIKKOR 28-300 looks better

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
BrownieVet Senior Member • Posts: 3,811
D750 is a good camera

rob91 wrote:

i am more inclined toward d750 as it has better focus and battery life is twice as long

what is alternative to the tamron 16-300 for full frame

and if i use this lense on full frame such as d750 , do i lose much?

i found

Tamron 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 LD Nikon

what you think

aactually

NIKKOR 28-300 looks better

I don't know anything about Tamrom lenses. I am aware of Tamron but that is all.
Nikkon / Nikon lens is all I use.
Am NOT fan of wide range tele-zoom such as those you cited.
I do not recommend lens I have not used,
My lenses are the "Gold ring" series
Use the link I provided earlier to see the Nikon lense

Gesture Veteran Member • Posts: 8,490
Re: D750 is a good camera

My recommendation.  Buy a used Nikon body (D500 and D7200 are both solid recommendations) from B&H, Adorama, MPB, KEH or Roberts Camera/Used Photo Pro and get a 3- to 6-month warranty.

OP rob91 Junior Member • Posts: 32
Re: D750 is a good camera

hi

i just bough d7200 it will arrive on wednesday

what lenses do you recommend for photojournalism? i dont have much space in my bag, i already have d3400 with fifty nifty

 rob91's gear list:rob91's gear list
Nikon D7200 Nikon D3400 Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm F1.8G Nikon AF-P 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F4.5-6.3G VR
Blufftonian
Blufftonian Senior Member • Posts: 1,006
Re: D750 is a good camera

The Nikon 18-140 DX VR zoom would be fine for you.

 Blufftonian's gear list:Blufftonian's gear list
Nikon D500 Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm F1.8G Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 10-24mm f/3-5-4.5G ED Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED VR +5 more
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