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Highgrovemanor Junior Member • Posts: 28
Family Disney trip, 2020 edition

After searching multiple forums and reading so many 2011-2013 threads chatting up the 20/1.7 as the ultimate, thought I would start up a more current thread to discuss. 

Priorities:  enjoy trip with twin 5 year old boys.  Maybe 1 or 2 more Disney trips in their future, so more trips to round out photo ops in mask-free future to follow.

My current gear is pretty good, as lets say up until 6 years ago I could easily roll a new lens purchase into the travel budget.  Not any more, as last year's G9 splurge must be it for awhile.

Show stopper:  I was thinking selfie stick with phones for uber-light, but Disney says no-selfies.

Current thoughts:  Do the photo-package (all you can eat), so my shots are bonus-round but not needed.  Old threads were quite valuable, and have me thinking 9-18mm Oly during the day and 50/1.7 for dark.  I do have the 20mm, but its slow focus speed is a non-starter IMO.  I would like to shoot some video, along with some pictures. Other lenses include 7.5 FE, 12-35/35-100 2.8s, 45/1.8.  Think single body, 2 lenses max.

Question 1:  take the weight penalty of G9, right?  Other options are G7, or GX1?  G7 youtube videos seem its okay for 4k, but its focus drove me to G9.  I like the GX-1 form factor (have EVF), but its quite dated and worst video of the bunch.

Question 2: Anyone gotten Gorilla tripods in w/o grief?

Question 3: Am I thinking of this right?

Many thanks

Steve

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Zone IX Regular Member • Posts: 153
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If your priorities are to enjoy the time with kids, it's really easier not to lug around a camera. I take a Sony RX100-series camera, which was the best camera I could find that still fits in my pocket. You'll probably want to go on rides and lift the kids on your shoulders to watch the parades (this was pre-covid). These days, a phone may give you 95% of the shots you'd want. The PhotoPass was really convenient - it gives you the family pictures and photos on rides so you don't need to worry about not having enough group shots.

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JosephScha Veteran Member • Posts: 7,249
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I'm almost 65 years old, don't think I'm particularly strong, and yet I never think the G9 is a burden.  I carry it around with the 14-140 II in daylight whenever I might need to take a picture.  The lens probably weighs as much as the camera.  To go lighter, mount the 15mm f/1.7 or the 25mm  or even the incredibly light and small 42.5mm f/1.7.

It's really not a "burden".  Take a small camera bag that just fits the camera.

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wrbluepearl Regular Member • Posts: 120
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I used the G7 extensively for photos and video at WDW when I visited in 2016, and used a GX1 when I visited in 2012.

I thought the G7 was the perfect WDW camera, TBH.  I took the 12-35 f/2.8 and the 14-140 f/3.5-5.6, plus a Rode VideoMicro and a Sunpak 4200XL tripod in an Ape Case insert inside my backpack.  This setup was flexible, lightweight, and gave me great video/audio from the trip in addition to much better stills than I could have gotten from my cell phone.  No hassle bringing in the tripod, and I saw other people in the parks with much heavier duty tripods than mine.

So my recommendation is to take the G7 with the 12-35, and spring for a super lightweight tripod.

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OP Highgrovemanor Junior Member • Posts: 28
Re: Family Disney trip, 2020 edition

Thanks everyone for the responses.

Yes 15mm would be excellent, and has been a dream lens almost since it's release, as I so miss lens' aperture rings from 35mm film days ( HS yearbook).   15 and 50-200 would be great additions...but not quite yet. 

G9 will probably get the nod just due to I've got 2  fresh batteries.  The 1 thing I hate about modern cameras, battery types.

The only non M43 in the house besides phones is an old 12mp Canon point and shoot I hacked for time-lapse on an Alaska trip.  $40 Refurb, AA powered.  Hahahahaha.

Thanks again.

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lotbass Forum Member • Posts: 68
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I used a 20mm on an Oly PEN for a Disney trip several years ago.  The snall size of the PEN+20mm was awesome, and I got some shots I was very happy with.  However, you are correct it was way too slow and I missed shots because of it.  I also had an E30 and used it with a larger lens on other days, to get shots I couldn't / didn't with the 20mm.

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larsbc Forum Pro • Posts: 18,282
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Highgrovemanor wrote:

Show stopper: I was thinking selfie stick with phones for uber-light, but Disney says no-selfies.

Current thoughts: Do the photo-package (all you can eat), so my shots are bonus-round but not needed. Old threads were quite valuable, and have me thinking 9-18mm Oly during the day and 50/1.7 for dark.

When I shot with Nikon APS-C DSLRs, I once used a 10.5mm fisheye at Disneyland. It was great for close quarters but it also, obviously, brought a lot of distortion. If you can get your family to sit close together in close quarters (like photographing them on the tea cup ride), I think 12mm on m43 will be wide enough. I have the 9-18 and had it at Disney World but it only accounted for *SIX* keepers from that park and its 9mm field of view wasn't necessary. The next time I go I'll just bring my 12-35/2.8 or 12-60/3.5-5.6.

When you say "50/1.7 for dark," do you mean the 25/1.7? If so, I think that's a good idea, although my preference would be the 17/1.8 or 15/1.7 just for the wider FoV.

I do have the 20mm, but its slow focus speed is a non-starter IMO. I would like to shoot some video, along with some pictures. Other lenses include 7.5 FE, 12-35/35-100 2.8s, 45/1.8. Think single body, 2 lenses max.

Hmm.  In your situation I'd probably use the 12-35/2.8 + 7.5 FE during the day.  Then, after the mental health break in the late afternoon, go back with the 12-35/2.8 and 25/1.7 for the evening.

Question 1: take the weight penalty of G9, right? Other options are G7, or GX1? G7 youtube videos seem its okay for 4k, but its focus drove me to G9. I like the GX-1 form factor (have EVF), but its quite dated and worst video of the bunch.

Since you're shooting video, I would take the G9 w/o question. It's your only camera with IBIS.

Question 2: Anyone gotten Gorilla tripods in w/o grief?

I've used a Gorillapod in DL before (worked great for a moving time lapse in Small Small World) but it was a small one that I used for my GoPro.

Question 3: Am I thinking of this right?

I know you said you can't buy anything new so of course I'll suggest something used. 

On my last trip to Disneyland, despite having my m43 gear with me, I shot 95% of the video with an action camera.  The stabilization combined with the wide FoV and deep DoF made it an ideal camera to capturing video while walking around the park and riding the rides.  Video quality and stabilization (if you're using something that doesn't have mechanical stabilization) will suffer in the evening but in that situation you could use your G9 for video duties.  So perhaps looked for a used GoPro 7?  Pair it with a short handle (it won't be counted as a selfie stick...I used a 10" floating handle with mine) and it'll work well enough for shooting selfie video plus give you a good grip for shooting video while on the rides.

But if you don't want to get an action camera, then pair the G9 with the 7.5 FE.  Then choose a focus distance and aperture to make it focus-free.  The wide FoV should make it easier to keep things looking stable but try it with and without electronic stabilization turned on.  If I recall correctly, the e-stabilization can cause some warping when shooting video with a superwide lens.  IBIS (mechanical) is fine to use, though.

Also use a very short tripod that you can also use as a handle for your camera.  That'll make it easier to turn the camera back towards you for selfie video.

Pete_W
Pete_W Senior Member • Posts: 2,841
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Take the G9. It's not that heavy!

When my kids were small we made a few trips to Disneyland. This was before digital cameras. I lugged around a Nikon F90x camera with two lenses - a 28-70mm and a 70-200mm. I also had a speedlight in the bag and rolls of film. And the camera and speedlight were each powered by a bunch of AA batteries so it wasn't light.

But I was young. Picking up one of the kids from time to time was a lot more weight than the camera.

As for lenses, I reckon the two Pany f/2.8 zooms would be ideal - the 12-35mm and 35-100mm.

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shanemitchell Forum Member • Posts: 55
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I'll be following this! 
Heading out to Disney at the end of the month for the first time and have no idea what to expect. 
I'm bringing a Fuji X-T3 with a 35mm F2 (50mm eqv.) - I used to own M43 and still love it so I follow this forum. I have a Gorilla Pod that I may bring, but I just ordered the Sennheiser MKE200 'Creator Kit' that comes with a mini tripod, phone mount and the mic. 
I think that's all I'll need. The phone will be compact and gives me a wider FOV than the 50mm eqv. And I'll have the Fuji for high qualIty photo's and video when I feel I have the space to be using a bigger camera.

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I have used everyone from the first Canon D30 to Olympus EM1m3.  I would recommend as bright of a 24-70 equivalent zoom that you have.  Also I have used the 7-14 2.8 and loved it.  However the iPhone 12 has been a great choice as well and if you are just planning 8x10 images its sufficient.

Also look for an instagram photographer ipadcameradisney he has some good photos.

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Blueshound
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I can relate to your question. My wife and I have been to the parks many times, both on our own and with adult kids & grandkids in tow. I have taken both my FF Sony kit as well as my G9 with Panasonic zooms. In fact, we're heading back to Disney World in May.

I tend to like wide, and I'd prioritize my Panasonic 8-18, but I understand that many people don't need wider than 12mm in m43, roughly equivalent to 24mm in FF. So for your situation, I'd suggest that the 12-35/2.8 could live on the camera most of the time, with the 35-100/2.8 coming out when you felt that you needed it. Or, travel to the hotel with the two zooms & your wide prime, and choose two to take to the parks on a given outing.

With two little ones, the idea of many lens changes will go out the window pretty quickly, I'd think. An option would be just to take the G9 with the standard zoom, which would be light, convenient and cover a lot of possibilities.

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Highgrovemanor wrote:

After searching multiple forums and reading so many 2011-2013 threads chatting up the 20/1.7 as the ultimate, thought I would start up a more current thread to discuss.

Priorities: enjoy trip with twin 5 year old boys. Maybe 1 or 2 more Disney trips in their future, so more trips to round out photo ops in mask-free future to follow.

My current gear is pretty good, as lets say up until 6 years ago I could easily roll a new lens purchase into the travel budget. Not any more, as last year's G9 splurge must be it for awhile.

Show stopper: I was thinking selfie stick with phones for uber-light, but Disney says no-selfies.

Current thoughts: Do the photo-package (all you can eat), so my shots are bonus-round but not needed. Old threads were quite valuable, and have me thinking 9-18mm Oly during the day and 50/1.7 for dark. I do have the 20mm, but its slow focus speed is a non-starter IMO. I would like to shoot some video, along with some pictures. Other lenses include 7.5 FE, 12-35/35-100 2.8s, 45/1.8. Think single body, 2 lenses max.

Question 1: take the weight penalty of G9, right? Other options are G7, or GX1? G7 youtube videos seem its okay for 4k, but its focus drove me to G9. I like the GX-1 form factor (have EVF), but its quite dated and worst video of the bunch.

Question 2: Anyone gotten Gorilla tripods in w/o grief?

Question 3: Am I thinking of this right?

Many thanks

Steve

Hey Steve,

We are season pass holders at Disneyland here in OC and have made several cross-country flights to Disney World with our kids.

Everyone has different "acceptability" for weight and convenience. When our kids were stroller size, I brought along too much stuff and didn't use most of it. Now I bring what I can carry at the ready. When carrying a camera on my body for the day, I tend to go pretty light - one body, one lens. The thing is, if you're climbing in and out of rides, navigating food areas, bathrooms, chasing kids in general, having a larger camera banging into your ribs and rides all day isn't fun.

What I ultimately settled on was my smallest ILC body and a 14-17mm prime (28-35mm FOV). For everything else the iPhone. Video is just plain easier with an iPhone.

I will say I was reluctant to buy the photo packages but they are such a convenience I 100% recommend, especially if you ever want to be in the photos with your family. Trying to get the kids to stay still and smile 100 times a day with sugar coursing through their veins is enough of a challenge. Let the Disney photogs do their thing so you can enjoy being in the moment.

Enough words!

Could only get one kid in the picture - sometimes you just can't win That's the EM5 + 20/1.7 around my neck. As you mentioned the 20mm is just too slow and I find the FOV too narrow for Disney.

So much of the day is spent waiting...waiting for rides, waiting for food, waiting for someone in the bathroom. It's a good opportunity to make some fun photos.

Some of the lighting is wretched - either too dark or strong colors. Make the most of it.

For rides, the wider FOV is really helpful. Ideally a 28-35mm is flexible enough to get some fun perspectives and selfies.

Other advice for photographing kids - I tend to get down on their level when I'm shooting. Lots of "lunges" lol to get eye-level but makes the environment/perspective from their view more interesting.

Final advice - don't let photography get in the way of time with your family. Those moments are fleeting. Be quick and efficient but not distracting. If Mrs MEDISN rolls her eyes when I reach for camera, I put it back and enjoy the moment

Extra3rd
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Covid 2021 PhotoPass will not user your camera

In the past the Photopass photographers were willing to also use your camera to take photos.  Currently under covid they will take photos only with the Disney equipment and not your gear.

This is an another reason to purchase the photopass package.

Barry

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OP Highgrovemanor Junior Member • Posts: 28
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And a key update that just recently came out is it’s okay to drop the masks for outside photo ops, so I’ll definetly go for the package, though it does sound like there are fewer roaming the park.

I do like the idea of a sports camera, and I do see a decent one in my future as they are already dare devils.
I refuse to let the gear get in the way of the fun, as I don’t want 2000 pictures to cull through as I HATE post processing so OOC is king with me plus I only want a hand full of pictures to really keep.  I am happy with 1 true keeper a month of the boys, but can’t NOT take some camera equipment.  Otherwise the wife won’t be as supportive of my next purchase.  Hahahahaha.

R Smallenberg Forum Member • Posts: 50
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An amusement park might be the only place I can think of where I probably wouldn't take camera gear with interchangeable lenses unless you don't plan on going on the rides.    Aside from limiting it to something you can fit into a fanny pack, you would have to rent a locker or leave it unattended on the ride platforms.

During my college years (which were many, many years ago) I was an area host supervisor at Busch Gardens Williamsburg.  One of my responsibilities was seeing that lost articles were sent to guest relations.  Camera equipment topped the list of things that made the trip.

Also, while crime was rare in the park, when it did happen, the most common occurrence was unattended items taken from the ride platforms.  I wouldn't want to leave my equipment there.

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R Smallenberg Forum Member • Posts: 50
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MEDISN wrote:

Highgrovemanor wrote:

After searching multiple forums and reading so many 2011-2013 threads chatting up the 20/1.7 as the ultimate, thought I would start up a more current thread to discuss.

Priorities: enjoy trip with twin 5 year old boys. Maybe 1 or 2 more Disney trips in their future, so more trips to round out photo ops in mask-free future to follow.

My current gear is pretty good, as lets say up until 6 years ago I could easily roll a new lens purchase into the travel budget. Not any more, as last year's G9 splurge must be it for awhile.

Show stopper: I was thinking selfie stick with phones for uber-light, but Disney says no-selfies.

Current thoughts: Do the photo-package (all you can eat), so my shots are bonus-round but not needed. Old threads were quite valuable, and have me thinking 9-18mm Oly during the day and 50/1.7 for dark. I do have the 20mm, but its slow focus speed is a non-starter IMO. I would like to shoot some video, along with some pictures. Other lenses include 7.5 FE, 12-35/35-100 2.8s, 45/1.8. Think single body, 2 lenses max.

Question 1: take the weight penalty of G9, right? Other options are G7, or GX1? G7 youtube videos seem its okay for 4k, but its focus drove me to G9. I like the GX-1 form factor (have EVF), but its quite dated and worst video of the bunch.

Question 2: Anyone gotten Gorilla tripods in w/o grief?

Question 3: Am I thinking of this right?

Many thanks

Steve

Hey Steve,

We are season pass holders at Disneyland here in OC and have made several cross-country flights to Disney World with our kids.

Everyone has different "acceptability" for weight and convenience. When our kids were stroller size, I brought along too much stuff and didn't use most of it. Now I bring what I can carry at the ready. When carrying a camera on my body for the day, I tend to go pretty light - one body, one lens. The thing is, if you're climbing in and out of rides, navigating food areas, bathrooms, chasing kids in general, having a larger camera banging into your ribs and rides all day isn't fun.

What I ultimately settled on was my smallest ILC body and a 14-17mm prime (28-35mm FOV). For everything else the iPhone. Video is just plain easier with an iPhone.

I will say I was reluctant to buy the photo packages but they are such a convenience I 100% recommend, especially if you ever want to be in the photos with your family. Trying to get the kids to stay still and smile 100 times a day with sugar coursing through their veins is enough of a challenge. Let the Disney photogs do their thing so you can enjoy being in the moment.

Enough words!

So much of the day is spent waiting...waiting for rides, waiting for food, waiting for someone in the bathroom. It's a good opportunity to make some fun photos.

Some of the lighting is wretched - either too dark or strong colors. Make the most of it.

For rides, the wider FOV is really helpful. Ideally a 28-35mm is flexible enough to get some fun perspectives and selfies.

Other advice for photographing kids - I tend to get down on their level when I'm shooting. Lots of "lunges" lol to get eye-level but makes the environment/perspective from their view more interesting.

Final advice - don't let photography get in the way of time with your family. Those moments are fleeting. Be quick and efficient but not distracting. If Mrs MEDISN rolls her eyes when I reach for camera, I put it back and enjoy the moment

I'm surprised Disneyland lets you take a camera hanging from a strap on the rides.  When I worked at Busch Gardens Williamsburg, that wasn't allowed as it could become a projectile.

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Chuck_G Regular Member • Posts: 184
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My wife and I have been to Disneyworld dozens of times. I haven't always brought a camera but when I have, the ride attendants always made me put the camera either in my bag or in the little mesh storage at your feet on the ride. Some rides/attractions are not an issue for carrying your camera either in your hands or on a strap. Slow moving rides like Haunted Mansion, Spaceship Earth, Small World, Pirates of the Caribbean and others are great to get photos or videos of.

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larsbc Forum Pro • Posts: 18,282
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R Smallenberg wrote:

An amusement park might be the only place I can think of where I probably wouldn't take camera gear with interchangeable lenses unless you don't plan on going on the rides. Aside from limiting it to something you can fit into a fanny pack, you would have to rent a locker or leave it unattended on the ride platforms.

I can't think of any ride in Disneyland where I couldn't bring my camera bag (sling or small backpack).  The only one where I _might_ not have been able to bring my bag was the California Screamin' rollercoaster but I don't recall for sure.  I know I was able to use my GoPro on it, though.

uniball Veteran Member • Posts: 3,075
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I've done WDW a few times. For me, a daytime superzoom (P14-140 in my case) and for indoors and evenings a quick wide (for me the PL15) work well. No lens changing is important for capturing quick moving activities. My previous P12-60 lacked the reach I frequently needed

Body is a GX85 or GX9. G9 is too large for me but, that’s just me. If I wanted large I’d pack a Fuji.

I'd leave the P20 at home. It’s useless with action, useless in low light and can’t be used for video (with AF). Nice render but I much prefer my PL15 and O25/1.8.

As another mentioned, an RX100 has its attractions. Small, superb AF, effective FL range on some of the newer models, superb sensor (in daylight, just as good as m43, in low light they both start to fall apart above iso800). I found my RX100 awful to use. Slow to start, fiddly, too fiddly). YMMV.

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