I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...

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toughluck Veteran Member • Posts: 3,809
Re: So, you're doubling down on your own ignorance.

MacroDonata wrote:

You say that limiting the use of a word to its actual meaning diminishes the word itself.

Okay, then back down and stop using the word to denote modern terrorism and instead stick to its original meaning:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror

Otherwise you're a hypocrite.

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Ricky 92rt Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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toughluck wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

IMO, they just limit A-mount lenses because they have some resentment or hatred towards us.

That's laughable...

Companies don't shoot themselves in the foot period!

-Martin P

Companies can and do shoot themselves in the foot all the time.

So you are telling me that when a company brings out a new, improved product, they should undercut it with their older product because it might upset a few peeps....?

I don't think so...!

-Martin P

Its called building good will. Fun fact, that usually helps your sales.

Canon isnt afraid of their old lenses hurting sales. There are probably 100x more Canon 24-70mm F2.8 lenses available in the wild compared to Sony Zeiss.

But here is Sony, consistently putting arbitrary limits on the A-mount. They didnt have to keep that F3.5 limit on the A99ii, it wasnt a threat to E-mount. But they did it anyways as a final kick in the teeth.

Now the LA-EA5's screw drive compatibility is limited to 3 cameras. They are just being jerks at this point. John Rando was able to get an LA-EA4 to AF without a mirror. Sony could do it too, but they choose to limit it to 3 camera's.

Where did you read that definitely, in no uncertain terms, Sony is not going to offer a firmware upgrade for older cameras to support LA-EA5 AF with screw drive lenses?

He's making a reasoned assumption. After 6 months even new cams like the A7c and A7sIII still don't work with the LAEA5 for screw AF lenses. Don't have to be a genius to see that Sony apparently are limiting it's use with screw drive AF - for whatever reason to the more expensive crop/FF bodies

Let's hope we're wrong on this. Gotta say though there is probably no technical reason why those 2 can't work with it, nor the A6100/6400 (same generation as A6600 same AF system processor etc)

It looks like a ploy to sell more expensive E Mount bodies to heavily invested A Mount users. If monster can hack an LAEA4 and give AF on even older bodies like the A7ii etc, with screw drive lenses, it is obvious Sony are crippling the adapters on purpose

BTW it is fairly clear why the reviews are 1 or 2 stars because people bought the adapter expecting it to work with their lenses, and it erm doesn't. It's far from clear either on the product page you have to dig in deep to find the reality that most bodies won't work with screw drive lenses for AF.

tqlla Veteran Member • Posts: 6,188
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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toughluck wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

IMO, they just limit A-mount lenses because they have some resentment or hatred towards us.

That's laughable...

Companies don't shoot themselves in the foot period!

-Martin P

Companies can and do shoot themselves in the foot all the time.

So you are telling me that when a company brings out a new, improved product, they should undercut it with their older product because it might upset a few peeps....?

I don't think so...!

-Martin P

Its called building good will. Fun fact, that usually helps your sales.

Canon isnt afraid of their old lenses hurting sales. There are probably 100x more Canon 24-70mm F2.8 lenses available in the wild compared to Sony Zeiss.

But here is Sony, consistently putting arbitrary limits on the A-mount. They didnt have to keep that F3.5 limit on the A99ii, it wasnt a threat to E-mount. But they did it anyways as a final kick in the teeth.

Now the LA-EA5's screw drive compatibility is limited to 3 cameras. They are just being jerks at this point. John Rando was able to get an LA-EA4 to AF without a mirror. Sony could do it too, but they choose to limit it to 3 camera's.

Where did you read that definitely, in no uncertain terms, Sony is not going to offer a firmware upgrade for older cameras to support LA-EA5 AF with screw drive lenses?

Some person sells an mod for the LA-EA4 to work without a mirror.... and you think that Sony hasnt figured out how to get the LA-EA5 to work with screw drive lenses A7iii?

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daqk Contributing Member • Posts: 938
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...

Why bother with Sony, it never would work.

We all knew it - It's A Sony ! LoL

Let's wait for the public to release LA-EA5r.

toughluck Veteran Member • Posts: 3,809
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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tqlla wrote:

toughluck wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

IMO, they just limit A-mount lenses because they have some resentment or hatred towards us.

That's laughable...

Companies don't shoot themselves in the foot period!

-Martin P

Companies can and do shoot themselves in the foot all the time.

So you are telling me that when a company brings out a new, improved product, they should undercut it with their older product because it might upset a few peeps....?

I don't think so...!

-Martin P

Its called building good will. Fun fact, that usually helps your sales.

Canon isnt afraid of their old lenses hurting sales. There are probably 100x more Canon 24-70mm F2.8 lenses available in the wild compared to Sony Zeiss.

But here is Sony, consistently putting arbitrary limits on the A-mount. They didnt have to keep that F3.5 limit on the A99ii, it wasnt a threat to E-mount. But they did it anyways as a final kick in the teeth.

Now the LA-EA5's screw drive compatibility is limited to 3 cameras. They are just being jerks at this point. John Rando was able to get an LA-EA4 to AF without a mirror. Sony could do it too, but they choose to limit it to 3 camera's.

Where did you read that definitely, in no uncertain terms, Sony is not going to offer a firmware upgrade for older cameras to support LA-EA5 AF with screw drive lenses?

Some person sells an mod for the LA-EA4 to work without a mirror.... and you think that Sony hasnt figured out how to get the LA-EA5 to work with screw drive lenses A7iii?

And LA-EA4r works about as well as you'd expect for an adapter that makes the camera pretend it's driving a SSM/SAM lens. Which is to say, not that good.

Sony can't just release a half-finished product without proper support for older bodies and claim it's compatible.

Although I fully agree that Sony should be more up front with messaging and confirm these:
• Will LA-EA5 support video AF?
• Will LA-EA5 support screw drive AF with older bodies? If yes, which ones are planned to be given support?

I agree it would be awesome, but Sony can't afford to claim the latter because they would be liable to refund cameras purchased with the intention to be used with LA-EA5 in the future.

I do have to point out that A7R3 uses the same sensor as A99ii and A99ii shares a lot of OSPDAF processing with A7R3. Which means that at least A7R3 should have been made compatible with LA-EA5.

On the other hand, if Sony supports LA-EA5 fully on A7R3, people will ask why there's no support for A7R2 or A73. And if Sony adds support for them, then why no support for A7R or A72, and so on.

Any cutoff is always going to look arbitrary.

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tqlla Veteran Member • Posts: 6,188
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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toughluck wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Some person sells an mod for the LA-EA4 to work without a mirror.... and you think that Sony hasnt figured out how to get the LA-EA5 to work with screw drive lenses A7iii?

And LA-EA4r works about as well as you'd expect for an adapter that makes the camera pretend it's driving a SSM/SAM lens. Which is to say, not that good.

Sony can't just release a half-finished product without proper support for older bodies and claim it's compatible.

But releasing a half baked adapter limited to two cameras at the time, that's acceptable? Then they hide the fact that its limited to those two bodies(now 3). And I am pretty sure they said something about stay tuned for compatibility updates, and they never updated sheet.

At minimum, the LA-EA5 should work with Gen3 or current model cameras.  Being limited to the most ridiculous bodies(A1, A7Riv and A6600) is just ridiculous.

Even you realize that their reasons for limiting the LA-EA5 to the A7Riv/A6600/A1 are not technical.  I dont understand why you would defend that.

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Ricky 92rt Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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tqlla wrote:

toughluck wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Some person sells an mod for the LA-EA4 to work without a mirror.... and you think that Sony hasnt figured out how to get the LA-EA5 to work with screw drive lenses A7iii?

And LA-EA4r works about as well as you'd expect for an adapter that makes the camera pretend it's driving a SSM/SAM lens. Which is to say, not that good.

Sony can't just release a half-finished product without proper support for older bodies and claim it's compatible.

But releasing a half baked adapter limited to two cameras at the time, that's acceptable? Then they hide the fact that its limited to those two bodies(now 3). And I am pretty sure they said something about stay tuned for compatibility updates, and they never updated sheet.

At minimum, the LA-EA5 should work with Gen3 or current model cameras. Being limited to the most ridiculous bodies(A1, A7Riv and A6600) is just ridiculous.

Even you realize that their reasons for limiting the LA-EA5 to the A7Riv/A6600/A1 are not technical. I dont understand why you would defend that.

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion. A7C not interesting to me, but it came out after the adapter yet isn't working with it. I don't think people expected it to work with the really old stuff A7/A7ii, but more recent bodies there is no technical reason it doesn't work.

Again there is no point having an adapter that only works with 3 bodies, and the bad review reflect that. So people should leave poor review if it doesn't do what it should. I bet Sony returns for this adapter are huge. It's mostly useless for anyone who doesn't have those 3 bodies. The LAEA4 at least works with almost everything (this now doesn't work with the A1 for AF with any lens no idea why it's on the Sony site)

The adapter situation with Sony is a mess simple as folks

tqlla Veteran Member • Posts: 6,188
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony.  Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

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Lensmate
Lensmate Veteran Member • Posts: 7,313
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...

tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

Its clearly stated on their page, but fools rush in without paying proper attention, and then cry foul. There are many reasons a company will do certain things, and they shouldn't have to explain or babysit those whiners who leaped without looking...

There are several different adaptors that do specific things and that's what Sony chose to offer, some different choices... they are not a panacea to all lenses. Buyer beware....

-Martin P

Ricky 92rt Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

Its clearly stated on their page, but fools rush in without paying proper attention, and then cry foul. There are many reasons a company will do certain things, and they shouldn't have to explain or babysit those whiners who leaped without looking...

Not really that clear is it unless you start digging around

There are several different adaptors that do specific things and that's what Sony chose to offer, some different choices... they are not a panacea to all lenses. Buyer beware....

-Martin P

No the plan was to push people to the expensive cameras. Reality is for most A mount users - just use what you have or keep buying used gear for A mount lenses. It's hard to call this adapter for anything else other than a poorly though out marketing ploy

I'm loving the trade in offer too..lol

More like "Enjoy not being able to AF with most of your A Mount lenses on your new E Mount body"

Lensmate
Lensmate Veteran Member • Posts: 7,313
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

Its clearly stated on their page, but fools rush in without paying proper attention, and then cry foul. There are many reasons a company will do certain things, and they shouldn't have to explain or babysit those whiners who leaped without looking...

Not really that clear is it unless you start digging around

Really, isn't that what you are supposed to do before buying something?

I noticed you complaining in this other forum about Sony:

Re: Thoughts on A7R IV at two year mark?: Sony Alpha Full Frame E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)

Shouldn't you have bought a more appropriate camera if the image size was too large? Easily done, but yet, you want to have a go, like its Sony fault...lol

-Martin P

Ricky 92rt Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

Its clearly stated on their page, but fools rush in without paying proper attention, and then cry foul. There are many reasons a company will do certain things, and they shouldn't have to explain or babysit those whiners who leaped without looking...

Not really that clear is it unless you start digging around

Really, isn't that what you are supposed to do before buying something?

I noticed you complaining in this other forum about Sony:

Re: Thoughts on A7R IV at two year mark?: Sony Alpha Full Frame E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)

Shouldn't you have bought a more appropriate camera if the image size was too large? Easily done, but yet, you want to have a go, like its Sony fault...lol

-Martin P

If you consider S/M raw something people don't want, I got news it's desired by many. It's 2021 yet Sony still can't figure it out. I remember when Canon added it (hugely requested feature as well), did anyone complain? Nope people welcomed it big time it's very useful

You're defending poorly informed choices by Sony with the adapter

It's up to them if they want to have a ton of returns (which I bet they have)

Offering a trade in on the A99ii? What genius thought that one up. Even if you threw an A99ii off a cliff into salty sea water, smashed it with a rock. You'd get way more for parts than the value of an LAEA5 adapter lol.

I'll say it again as it's not sinking in. Explain the benefit of having a new adapter that doesn't work on most bodies? There isn't one. Unless you only have SSM SAM lenses, which most don't it's an utterly pointless release from Sony and purely a sales tactic nothing else. Like the F3.5 limitation for video, an artificially added feature to cripple A Mount video capability. Except the LAEA5 can't even do video AF either

What a great solution lol

sybersitizen Forum Pro • Posts: 22,725
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

I also agree it's another A-mount disappointment from Sony.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

I also agree it should be prominently displayed in the text without having to look for footnotes and click to other pages.

Oddly, though, it's referenced three times in the promo video on the product page, along with some other caveats:

Lensmate
Lensmate Veteran Member • Posts: 7,313
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

Its clearly stated on their page, but fools rush in without paying proper attention, and then cry foul. There are many reasons a company will do certain things, and they shouldn't have to explain or babysit those whiners who leaped without looking...

Not really that clear is it unless you start digging around

Really, isn't that what you are supposed to do before buying something?

I noticed you complaining in this other forum about Sony:

Re: Thoughts on A7R IV at two year mark?: Sony Alpha Full Frame E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)

Shouldn't you have bought a more appropriate camera if the image size was too large? Easily done, but yet, you want to have a go, like its Sony fault...lol

-Martin P

If you consider S/M raw something people don't want, I got news it's desired by many. It's 2021 yet Sony still can't figure it out. I remember when Canon added it (hugely requested feature as well), did anyone complain? Nope people welcomed it big time it's very useful

You're defending poorly informed choices by Sony with the adapter

It's up to them if they want to have a ton of returns (which I bet they have)

Offering a trade in on the A99ii? What genius thought that one up. Even if you threw an A99ii off a cliff into salty sea water, smashed it with a rock. You'd get way more for parts than the value of an LAEA5 adapter lol.

I'll say it again as it's not sinking in. Explain the benefit of having a new adapter that doesn't work on most bodies? There isn't one. Unless you only have SSM SAM lenses, which most don't it's an utterly pointless release from Sony and purely a sales tactic nothing else. Like the F3.5 limitation for video, an artificially added feature to cripple A Mount video capability. Except the LAEA5 can't even do video AF either

What a great solution lol

Its a couple hundred bucks limited solution. What's all the boo hoo-ing about is beyond me. Yes, its limited, but big deal. Look into it first before leaping. Like I said, it was a limited option for soft entry into E-mount for some. Yet peeps are pulling their hair out and crying foul play....good grief. Much ado about nothing if you thought it through properly.

-Martin P

Lensmate
Lensmate Veteran Member • Posts: 7,313
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...

sybersitizen wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

I also agree it's another A-mount disappointment from Sony.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

I also agree it should be prominently displayed in the text without having to look for footnotes and click to other pages.

Yes, one could say that about 'fine print' too, but I didn't have any issue with all that...

the enclosed video even allows clicking on the link [ so simple] and allows further info about compatibility.

ILCE-1 : Interchangeable Lens [A-mount] Compatibility Information (sony.co.jp)

My main interest in the A1 would be compatibility with my A-mount 500mm f4 lens. Its all there for me to peruse...

-Martin P

Ricky 92rt Forum Member • Posts: 60
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...

Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

Its clearly stated on their page, but fools rush in without paying proper attention, and then cry foul. There are many reasons a company will do certain things, and they shouldn't have to explain or babysit those whiners who leaped without looking...

Not really that clear is it unless you start digging around

Really, isn't that what you are supposed to do before buying something?

I noticed you complaining in this other forum about Sony:

Re: Thoughts on A7R IV at two year mark?: Sony Alpha Full Frame E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)

Shouldn't you have bought a more appropriate camera if the image size was too large? Easily done, but yet, you want to have a go, like its Sony fault...lol

-Martin P

If you consider S/M raw something people don't want, I got news it's desired by many. It's 2021 yet Sony still can't figure it out. I remember when Canon added it (hugely requested feature as well), did anyone complain? Nope people welcomed it big time it's very useful

You're defending poorly informed choices by Sony with the adapter

It's up to them if they want to have a ton of returns (which I bet they have)

Offering a trade in on the A99ii? What genius thought that one up. Even if you threw an A99ii off a cliff into salty sea water, smashed it with a rock. You'd get way more for parts than the value of an LAEA5 adapter lol.

I'll say it again as it's not sinking in. Explain the benefit of having a new adapter that doesn't work on most bodies? There isn't one. Unless you only have SSM SAM lenses, which most don't it's an utterly pointless release from Sony and purely a sales tactic nothing else. Like the F3.5 limitation for video, an artificially added feature to cripple A Mount video capability. Except the LAEA5 can't even do video AF either

What a great solution lol

Its a couple hundred bucks limited solution. What's all the boo hoo-ing about is beyond me. Yes, its limited, but big deal. Look into it first before leaping. Like I said, it was a limited option for soft entry into E-mount for some. Yet peeps are pulling their hair out and crying foul play....good grief. Much ado about nothing if you thought it through properly.

-Martin P

Seriously nobody cares about the offer, I just posted it to show how little Sony grasp about A mount users needs. Even someone who was part time certified, would pass that deal up, it's borderline insulting at best unless you have a busted up A700

No drama from anyone just calling it as it is, badly thought out adapter with so limited compatibility it's of little interest to most users. I don't care much I can get s/h gear for the next 20 years if I needed to, what's around is sufficient for most users needs.

If Sony don't want to appeal to A mount users in a serious way that's their problem. like i said it's kinda embarrassing a couple of guys can hack an LAEA4 and get better results than Sony can.

Talking about thinking things through properly, you still don't get it not even close

I'm sure the warehouse it filling up with returned LAEA5's quite nicely by now, that's their problem. It's pretty obvious why it's getting bad reviews from buyers

Lensmate
Lensmate Veteran Member • Posts: 7,313
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

Its clearly stated on their page, but fools rush in without paying proper attention, and then cry foul. There are many reasons a company will do certain things, and they shouldn't have to explain or babysit those whiners who leaped without looking...

Not really that clear is it unless you start digging around

Really, isn't that what you are supposed to do before buying something?

I noticed you complaining in this other forum about Sony:

Re: Thoughts on A7R IV at two year mark?: Sony Alpha Full Frame E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)

Shouldn't you have bought a more appropriate camera if the image size was too large? Easily done, but yet, you want to have a go, like its Sony fault...lol

-Martin P

If you consider S/M raw something people don't want, I got news it's desired by many. It's 2021 yet Sony still can't figure it out. I remember when Canon added it (hugely requested feature as well), did anyone complain? Nope people welcomed it big time it's very useful

You're defending poorly informed choices by Sony with the adapter

It's up to them if they want to have a ton of returns (which I bet they have)

Offering a trade in on the A99ii? What genius thought that one up. Even if you threw an A99ii off a cliff into salty sea water, smashed it with a rock. You'd get way more for parts than the value of an LAEA5 adapter lol.

I'll say it again as it's not sinking in. Explain the benefit of having a new adapter that doesn't work on most bodies? There isn't one. Unless you only have SSM SAM lenses, which most don't it's an utterly pointless release from Sony and purely a sales tactic nothing else. Like the F3.5 limitation for video, an artificially added feature to cripple A Mount video capability. Except the LAEA5 can't even do video AF either

What a great solution lol

Its a couple hundred bucks limited solution. What's all the boo hoo-ing about is beyond me. Yes, its limited, but big deal. Look into it first before leaping. Like I said, it was a limited option for soft entry into E-mount for some. Yet peeps are pulling their hair out and crying foul play....good grief. Much ado about nothing if you thought it through properly.

-Martin P

Seriously nobody cares about the offer, I just posted it to show how little Sony grasp about A mount users needs. Even someone who was part time certified, would pass that deal up, it's borderline insulting at best unless you have a busted up A700

No drama from anyone just calling it as it is, badly thought out adapter with so limited compatibility it's of little interest to most users. I don't care much I can get s/h gear for the next 20 years if I needed to, what's around is sufficient for most users needs.

If Sony don't want to appeal to A mount users in a serious way that's their problem. like i said it's kinda embarrassing a couple of guys can hack an LAEA4 and get better results than Sony can.

Talking about thinking things through properly, you still don't get it not even close

I'm sure the warehouse it filling up with returned LAEA5's quite nicely by now, that's their problem. It's pretty obvious why it's getting bad reviews from buyers

Its only getting bad reviews from peeps that didn't look into it enough. I see good reviews from those that DID think it through.

Sony clearly states limitations with cameras and lenses. I don't believe they have to hold everyone's hands throughout the process, as they are too busy bringing first class cameras and lenses to those that are interested in the latest and greatest.

-Martin P

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Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Its only getting bad reviews from peeps that didn't look into it enough. I see good reviews from those that DID think it through.

Sony clearly states limitations with cameras and lenses. I don't believe they have to hold everyone's hands throughout the process, as they are too busy bringing first class cameras and lenses to those that are interested in the latest and greatest.

-Martin P

Clearly? No if they put it right up the top stating about the 3 body limitation for screw drive AF lenses, sure I'd agree they are clear about it. Not very obvious how they present it. Hence the bad reviews are justified due to poorly shown information - perhaps they'll get the message with the many returns and buyer confusion.

Class lenses a 50mm F2.5 with more LOCA than an 80's vintage Minolta prime ever had. Yeah real class lol. We're not interested in the latest and greatest marketing gimmicks, we're interested in an adapter that has broad support for A Mount.

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Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Lensmate wrote:

tqlla wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

It's an up sell tactic from Sony. Do you think it's coincidence that it's working with "the more expensive bodies"?. The A6600 being the same hardware as the A6400 and 6100. Has nothing to do with battery they can drive the LAEA4 as can the previous A6300/6500

Sony don't want it to work with the cheaper stuff. Hard to find any other conclusion.

I agree, its such and obvious and jerk move by Sony. Just like that F3.5 limitation, which was debunked on the original A77.

Its even worse they dont clearly state it on the product page, so people are shocked when it arrives and doesnt work.

Its clearly stated on their page, but fools rush in without paying proper attention, and then cry foul. There are many reasons a company will do certain things, and they shouldn't have to explain or babysit those whiners who leaped without looking...

Not really that clear is it unless you start digging around

Really, isn't that what you are supposed to do before buying something?

I noticed you complaining in this other forum about Sony:

Re: Thoughts on A7R IV at two year mark?: Sony Alpha Full Frame E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review (dpreview.com)

Shouldn't you have bought a more appropriate camera if the image size was too large? Easily done, but yet, you want to have a go, like its Sony fault...lol

-Martin P

If you consider S/M raw something people don't want, I got news it's desired by many. It's 2021 yet Sony still can't figure it out. I remember when Canon added it (hugely requested feature as well), did anyone complain? Nope people welcomed it big time it's very useful

You're defending poorly informed choices by Sony with the adapter

It's up to them if they want to have a ton of returns (which I bet they have)

Offering a trade in on the A99ii? What genius thought that one up. Even if you threw an A99ii off a cliff into salty sea water, smashed it with a rock. You'd get way more for parts than the value of an LAEA5 adapter lol.

I'll say it again as it's not sinking in. Explain the benefit of having a new adapter that doesn't work on most bodies? There isn't one. Unless you only have SSM SAM lenses, which most don't it's an utterly pointless release from Sony and purely a sales tactic nothing else. Like the F3.5 limitation for video, an artificially added feature to cripple A Mount video capability. Except the LAEA5 can't even do video AF either

What a great solution lol

Its a couple hundred bucks limited solution. What's all the boo hoo-ing about is beyond me. Yes, its limited, but big deal. Look into it first before leaping. Like I said, it was a limited option for soft entry into E-mount for some. Yet peeps are pulling their hair out and crying foul play....good grief. Much ado about nothing if you thought it through properly.

-Martin P

Seriously nobody cares about the offer, I just posted it to show how little Sony grasp about A mount users needs. Even someone who was part time certified, would pass that deal up, it's borderline insulting at best unless you have a busted up A700

No drama from anyone just calling it as it is, badly thought out adapter with so limited compatibility it's of little interest to most users. I don't care much I can get s/h gear for the next 20 years if I needed to, what's around is sufficient for most users needs.

If Sony don't want to appeal to A mount users in a serious way that's their problem. like i said it's kinda embarrassing a couple of guys can hack an LAEA4 and get better results than Sony can.

Talking about thinking things through properly, you still don't get it not even close

I'm sure the warehouse it filling up with returned LAEA5's quite nicely by now, that's their problem. It's pretty obvious why it's getting bad reviews from buyers

Its only getting bad reviews from peeps that didn't look into it enough. I see good reviews from those that DID think it through.

Sony clearly states limitations with cameras and lenses. I don't believe they have to hold everyone's hands throughout the process, as they are too busy bringing first class cameras and lenses to those that are interested in the latest and greatest.

-Martin P

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tqlla Veteran Member • Posts: 6,188
Re: I was reading the reviews of the LA-EA5 on Sony.com...
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Lensmate wrote:

Ricky 92rt wrote:

Seriously nobody cares about the offer, I just posted it to show how little Sony grasp about A mount users needs. Even someone who was part time certified, would pass that deal up, it's borderline insulting at best unless you have a busted up A700

No drama from anyone just calling it as it is, badly thought out adapter with so limited compatibility it's of little interest to most users. I don't care much I can get s/h gear for the next 20 years if I needed to, what's around is sufficient for most users needs.

If Sony don't want to appeal to A mount users in a serious way that's their problem. like i said it's kinda embarrassing a couple of guys can hack an LAEA4 and get better results than Sony can.

Talking about thinking things through properly, you still don't get it not even close

I'm sure the warehouse it filling up with returned LAEA5's quite nicely by now, that's their problem. It's pretty obvious why it's getting bad reviews from buyers

Its only getting bad reviews from peeps that didn't look into it enough. I see good reviews from those that DID think it through.

Sony clearly states limitations with cameras and lenses. I don't believe they have to hold everyone's hands throughout the process, as they are too busy bringing first class cameras and lenses to those that are interested in the latest and greatest.

-Martin P

Why should people have to click through a maze to figure out what Cameras are compatible with the LA-EA5. Sony could just write. AF with screw driven lenses is only compatible with the A1, A7Riv and the A6600. They could even put it in the fine print.

But instead the information is hidden. A user has to know which page to start at and the correct sequence of pages they need to jump through.

  1. https://www.sony.com/electronics/converters-mount-adapters/la-ea5
  2. Click on compatibility
  3. Click on Select model.... whoops Wrong page. Start over
  4. Click on interchangeable lens
  5. Click on a lens .... whoops. No info there. Start over.
  6. Click on Body,
  7. Click on emount camera
  8. Click on a Camera body.... whoops no info there either.

Wow it is so easy to get ZERO compatibility information.

People rightfully expect that the Adapter will work with at least current cameras(A7iii/A9/A9ii/A7Siii/A7C). Sony hides the lack of functionality through a maze of pages. That 2 star rating is well deserved.

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