Canon Eos R vs Canon Eos R6

HeintusMach wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have made another Question were i asked which system i should go with, since i plan to switch from my "old" 1DX to an new Mirrorless Camera. I decided to stick with Canon since i have some lenses wich i really like, and i can use all old glas with the new Cameras too!

Now i have a kinda bigger problem: The Canon Eos R is an intersting Camera in my opinion still now, but the R6 has some advanteges, which are still significant for me.
My question now is, if someone used both, what their opionon on the switch was, is it worth the Upgrad, etc.

For those who didn't read my prior thread (so probably no one here), here is what i use it for(text from old thread):

My usecase is, that i make Portrait like Pictures of Animal, and Humans. With that i like photographing Flowers, fow a local Shop, since there is always a verity of them there. If im not creating Photos for an Client, im usually making Landscape and these kind of Portraits.
So my Problem is that i can't really tell with wich one i sould get. One mayor factor is, for me atleast, is the prize to performance. Im Currently transforming Photgraphy to my mane Job, and i get "bigger" contracts here and there. My 1DX is fine, but the Problem is that i can't really shoot silent, and some of my prior clients said, that the pictures were find, and usable, but it would be nicer, if their were sharper, and with more Detail.
I think from the Information i wrote it is clear, why im debating between those two cameras.
My main consern with the R6 is that it maybe has some less Deatil then the R but it has a superior AF, and a Animal AF, which can be useful. On the other side the R6 is like 800-1000€ (956-1195$) more expeniv than the R.
I also know that there were some threads already, but they couldn't really help me. In the end its still going to be my decision, but i need help to figure out which one is the better choise, since both are really good.
Looking forward to your answers
Heintz
(My current Gear is an 1DX with an 300mm f4. In the bag are an 70-300 Tamron, and a 50 1.8 from Canon and a 85mm 1.4 from Samyang)

I'd forget about IQ differences unless you frequently go to certain extremes in your photography. The extra MP of the R will only be seen in very large prints or extreme levels of cropping and then probably only at lower ISOs. The R6 has better high ISO but you'll only notice it at crazy 5 digit ISO values. The R6 has a tad more DR but again you'll only see it with extreme shadow pushes and still its a minor difference. I'd venture for most people 99.9% of their photos will be indistinguishable if shot with either camera.

So, assuming you don't regularly fall into one of those extreme use categories, it is about the body. In a nutshell it comes down to having IBIS, AF nubbin, improved AF (R is still very good) and an extra card slot vs saving money.

I got an R when it was on sale in Dec 19 and think it was worth every penny. There was no R6 so it was an easy decision. I'd say overall the R6 is a more mature camera. I'm in no rush to upgrade to it or the R5 myself and I do think the R5/6 are both a bit overpriced now as they are the first Canons with IBIS so initial demand is understandably high and allows for what otherwise would be considered optimistic pricing in comparison to other brands on the market.

Hope this helps.

HeintusMach wrote:

jwilliams wrote:

HeintusMach wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have made another Question were i asked which system i should go with, since i plan to switch from my "old" 1DX to an new Mirrorless Camera. I decided to stick with Canon since i have some lenses wich i really like, and i can use all old glas with the new Cameras too!

Now i have a kinda bigger problem: The Canon Eos R is an intersting Camera in my opinion still now, but the R6 has some advanteges, which are still significant for me.
My question now is, if someone used both, what their opionon on the switch was, is it worth the Upgrad, etc.

For those who didn't read my prior thread (so probably no one here), here is what i use it for(text from old thread):

My usecase is, that i make Portrait like Pictures of Animal, and Humans. With that i like photographing Flowers, fow a local Shop, since there is always a verity of them there. If im not creating Photos for an Client, im usually making Landscape and these kind of Portraits.
So my Problem is that i can't really tell with wich one i sould get. One mayor factor is, for me atleast, is the prize to performance. Im Currently transforming Photgraphy to my mane Job, and i get "bigger" contracts here and there. My 1DX is fine, but the Problem is that i can't really shoot silent, and some of my prior clients said, that the pictures were find, and usable, but it would be nicer, if their were sharper, and with more Detail.
I think from the Information i wrote it is clear, why im debating between those two cameras.
My main consern with the R6 is that it maybe has some less Deatil then the R but it has a superior AF, and a Animal AF, which can be useful. On the other side the R6 is like 800-1000€ (956-1195$) more expeniv than the R.
I also know that there were some threads already, but they couldn't really help me. In the end its still going to be my decision, but i need help to figure out which one is the better choise, since both are really good.
Looking forward to your answers
Heintz
(My current Gear is an 1DX with an 300mm f4. In the bag are an 70-300 Tamron, and a 50 1.8 from Canon and a 85mm 1.4 from Samyang)

I'd forget about IQ differences unless you frequently go to certain extremes in your photography. The extra MP of the R will only be seen in very large prints or extreme levels of cropping and then probably only at lower ISOs. The R6 has better high ISO but you'll only notice it at crazy 5 digit ISO values. The R6 has a tad more DR but again you'll only see it with extreme shadow pushes and still its a minor difference. I'd venture for most people 99.9% of their photos will be indistinguishable if shot with either camera.

So, assuming you don't regularly fall into one of those extreme use categories, it is about the body. In a nutshell it comes down to having IBIS, AF nubbin, improved AF (R is still very good) and an extra card slot vs saving money.

I got an R when it was on sale in Dec 19 and think it was worth every penny. There was no R6 so it was an easy decision. I'd say overall the R6 is a more mature camera. I'm in no rush to upgrade to it or the R5 myself and I do think the R5/6 are both a bit overpriced now as they are the first Canons with IBIS so initial demand is understandably high and allows for what otherwise would be considered optimistic pricing in comparison to other brands on the market.

Hope this helps.

So yea, the DR was one thing i thought about since the R has an Lower one than the R6-. My problem is that i don't know what my clients do in the end with the Pictures, exept they order a print, so i kinda wanna go away from the risk of having a too low resolution.
I have a question to you? So you said you own the R, and like the R6 has this 120hz EVF (in the end it is slower bla bla bla) but how ist it, did the R also get somthing like the R6, or is it just the 60hz. Also how is the Display in general. I had the R once in my Hand, and the Sample had a bit of flickering. Is that a thing or was it just me imagining it?
thx for your reply btw

The EVF in general is fantastic, but keep in mind I don't really shooting any fast moving subjects.  Honestly I have no idea of the refresh rates of either camera but they have similar specs otherwise.  I've owned quite a few mirrorless and the R is the definitely the best I have owned, but there are higher res VFs out there now on other generally more expensive cameras.  The 3.6 MP EVFs seem to be the point where they are very good even if there are now higher specified panels.  Besides resolution and refresh rates of EVFs the optics in them do matter and I find the R to be very clear with no noticeable distortion.  I'd expect the R6 to be similar.

HeintusMach wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have made another Question were i asked which system i should go with, since i plan to switch from my "old" 1DX to an new Mirrorless Camera. I decided to stick with Canon since i have some lenses wich i really like, and i can use all old glas with the new Cameras too!

Now i have a kinda bigger problem: The Canon Eos R is an intersting Camera in my opinion still now, but the R6 has some advanteges, which are still significant for me.
My question now is, if someone used both, what their opionon on the switch was, is it worth the Upgrad, etc.

For those who didn't read my prior thread (so probably no one here), here is what i use it for(text from old thread):

My usecase is, that i make Portrait like Pictures of Animal, and Humans. With that i like photographing Flowers, fow a local Shop, since there is always a verity of them there. If im not creating Photos for an Client, im usually making Landscape and these kind of Portraits.
So my Problem is that i can't really tell with wich one i sould get. One mayor factor is, for me atleast, is the prize to performance. Im Currently transforming Photgraphy to my mane Job, and i get "bigger" contracts here and there. My 1DX is fine, but the Problem is that i can't really shoot silent, and some of my prior clients said, that the pictures were find, and usable, but it would be nicer, if their were sharper, and with more Detail.
I think from the Information i wrote it is clear, why im debating between those two cameras.
My main consern with the R6 is that it maybe has some less Deatil then the R but it has a superior AF, and a Animal AF, which can be useful. On the other side the R6 is like 800-1000€ (956-1195$) more expeniv than the R.
I also know that there were some threads already, but they couldn't really help me. In the end its still going to be my decision, but i need help to figure out which one is the better choise, since both are really good.
Looking forward to your answers
Heintz
(My current Gear is an 1DX with an 300mm f4. In the bag are an 70-300 Tamron, and a 50 1.8 from Canon and a 85mm 1.4 from Samyang)

Maybe something like a 100mm f/2.8 L Macro would be more helpful?

BirdShooter7 wrote:

HeintusMach wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have made another Question were i asked which system i should go with, since i plan to switch from my "old" 1DX to an new Mirrorless Camera. I decided to stick with Canon since i have some lenses wich i really like, and i can use all old glas with the new Cameras too!

Now i have a kinda bigger problem: The Canon Eos R is an intersting Camera in my opinion still now, but the R6 has some advanteges, which are still significant for me.
My question now is, if someone used both, what their opionon on the switch was, is it worth the Upgrad, etc.

For those who didn't read my prior thread (so probably no one here), here is what i use it for(text from old thread):

My usecase is, that i make Portrait like Pictures of Animal, and Humans. With that i like photographing Flowers, fow a local Shop, since there is always a verity of them there. If im not creating Photos for an Client, im usually making Landscape and these kind of Portraits.
So my Problem is that i can't really tell with wich one i sould get. One mayor factor is, for me atleast, is the prize to performance. Im Currently transforming Photgraphy to my mane Job, and i get "bigger" contracts here and there. My 1DX is fine, but the Problem is that i can't really shoot silent, and some of my prior clients said, that the pictures were find, and usable, but it would be nicer, if their were sharper, and with more Detail.
I think from the Information i wrote it is clear, why im debating between those two cameras.
My main consern with the R6 is that it maybe has some less Deatil then the R but it has a superior AF, and a Animal AF, which can be useful. On the other side the R6 is like 800-1000€ (956-1195$) more expeniv than the R.
I also know that there were some threads already, but they couldn't really help me. In the end its still going to be my decision, but i need help to figure out which one is the better choise, since both are really good.
Looking forward to your answers
Heintz
(My current Gear is an 1DX with an 300mm f4. In the bag are an 70-300 Tamron, and a 50 1.8 from Canon and a 85mm 1.4 from Samyang)

Maybe something like a 100mm f/2.8 L Macro would be more helpful?

I have been considering such a conundrum for a few days now, concerning the EOS 5D4, the EOS R, the EOS R5 and EOS R6

I am coming to the conclusion that better pixels, rather than more pixels is the way to go. I have a 5D3, so all the above have better pixels, but I think that the R6 has the best, as I have no real use for the 45mpx of the R5, along with its for me over the top video and huge cost, I like the idea of IBIS, as I do macro a lot and my lens has no IS. I have decide to buy a 100 macro with IS. This with the moveable screen and the superior AF and IS +IBIS should make macro more accurate and easier.

I also do some bird stuff with a 100-400 MK1 with IS. I could do with a bit more reach, so have decided to get a 1.4 converter, more pixels by proxy This should give an improvement on the present situation, with more pixels, better pixels, superior AF and superior IS. All hopefully at the cost of a R5.

I had considered quite seriously the R, but then there have been reports that some have noisy shutters. I hope no one come forward and says that the R6 also has a noisy shutter

Then again, tomorrow I might change my mind, perhaps even this evening

HeintusMach wrote:

Mike Engles wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

HeintusMach wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have made another Question were i asked which system i should go with, since i plan to switch from my "old" 1DX to an new Mirrorless Camera. I decided to stick with Canon since i have some lenses wich i really like, and i can use all old glas with the new Cameras too!

Now i have a kinda bigger problem: The Canon Eos R is an intersting Camera in my opinion still now, but the R6 has some advanteges, which are still significant for me.
My question now is, if someone used both, what their opionon on the switch was, is it worth the Upgrad, etc.

For those who didn't read my prior thread (so probably no one here), here is what i use it for(text from old thread):

My usecase is, that i make Portrait like Pictures of Animal, and Humans. With that i like photographing Flowers, fow a local Shop, since there is always a verity of them there. If im not creating Photos for an Client, im usually making Landscape and these kind of Portraits.
So my Problem is that i can't really tell with wich one i sould get. One mayor factor is, for me atleast, is the prize to performance. Im Currently transforming Photgraphy to my mane Job, and i get "bigger" contracts here and there. My 1DX is fine, but the Problem is that i can't really shoot silent, and some of my prior clients said, that the pictures were find, and usable, but it would be nicer, if their were sharper, and with more Detail.
I think from the Information i wrote it is clear, why im debating between those two cameras.
My main consern with the R6 is that it maybe has some less Deatil then the R but it has a superior AF, and a Animal AF, which can be useful. On the other side the R6 is like 800-1000€ (956-1195$) more expeniv than the R.
I also know that there were some threads already, but they couldn't really help me. In the end its still going to be my decision, but i need help to figure out which one is the better choise, since both are really good.
Looking forward to your answers
Heintz
(My current Gear is an 1DX with an 300mm f4. In the bag are an 70-300 Tamron, and a 50 1.8 from Canon and a 85mm 1.4 from Samyang)

Maybe something like a 100mm f/2.8 L Macro would be more helpful?

I have been considering such a conundrum for a few days now, concerning the EOS 5D4, the EOS R, the EOS R5 and EOS R6

I am coming to the conclusion that better pixels, rather than more pixels is the way to go. I have a 5D3, so all the above have better pixels, but I think that the R6 has the best, as I have no real use for the 45mpx of the R5, along with its for me over the top video and huge cost, I like the idea of IBIS, as I do macro a lot and my lens has no IS. I have decide to buy a 100 macro with IS. This with the moveable screen and the superior AF and IS +IBIS should make macro more accurate and easier.

I also do some bird stuff with a 100-400 MK1 with IS. I could do with a bit more reach, so have decided to get a 1.4 converter, more pixels by proxy This should give an improvement on the present situation, with more pixels, better pixels, superior AF and superior IS. All hopefully at the cost of a R5.

I had considered quite seriously the R, but then there have been reports that some have noisy shutters. I hope no one come forward and says that the R6 also has a noisy shutter

Then again, tomorrow I might change my mind, perhaps even this evening

yea....
i sometimes wish i could just think about getting things, like the r5, but with my rather tight budget its just not an option for me

I do think about it, but do not want to do it. There are better ways to spend my money.

I have just been looking at the sample images of the R6. The ability to lift shadows by +5V is really excellent. not that I always want to do that

I bought my 5D3 in 2015, so the R6 would be fine

Good Pixels

PS If I did go this way, there would be no need to upgrade my 10 year old homebuilt PC. or Lightroom 6, Same size but much better files than the 5D3

HeintusMach wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

HeintusMach wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have made another Question were i asked which system i should go with, since i plan to switch from my "old" 1DX to an new Mirrorless Camera. I decided to stick with Canon since i have some lenses wich i really like, and i can use all old glas with the new Cameras too!

Now i have a kinda bigger problem: The Canon Eos R is an intersting Camera in my opinion still now, but the R6 has some advanteges, which are still significant for me.
My question now is, if someone used both, what their opionon on the switch was, is it worth the Upgrad, etc.

For those who didn't read my prior thread (so probably no one here), here is what i use it for(text from old thread):

My usecase is, that i make Portrait like Pictures of Animal, and Humans. With that i like photographing Flowers, fow a local Shop, since there is always a verity of them there. If im not creating Photos for an Client, im usually making Landscape and these kind of Portraits.
So my Problem is that i can't really tell with wich one i sould get. One mayor factor is, for me atleast, is the prize to performance. Im Currently transforming Photgraphy to my mane Job, and i get "bigger" contracts here and there. My 1DX is fine, but the Problem is that i can't really shoot silent, and some of my prior clients said, that the pictures were find, and usable, but it would be nicer, if their were sharper, and with more Detail.
I think from the Information i wrote it is clear, why im debating between those two cameras.
My main consern with the R6 is that it maybe has some less Deatil then the R but it has a superior AF, and a Animal AF, which can be useful. On the other side the R6 is like 800-1000€ (956-1195$) more expeniv than the R.
I also know that there were some threads already, but they couldn't really help me. In the end its still going to be my decision, but i need help to figure out which one is the better choise, since both are really good.
Looking forward to your answers
Heintz
(My current Gear is an 1DX with an 300mm f4. In the bag are an 70-300 Tamron, and a 50 1.8 from Canon and a 85mm 1.4 from Samyang)

Maybe something like a 100mm f/2.8 L Macro would be more helpful?

The Problem with that is that it is a nice lens sure, i thought about buying it, but i still have to deal with some problems. And Noice is one thing. The Shutter of the 1DX is not the quietest. So a new lens won't fix everything.

Well R6 with electronic shutter is actually silent and the sensor is top notch for sure.  None of your lenses are extremely sharp so if the complaint is lack of sharpness then maybe the 100L might still be necessary.

HeintusMach wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

HeintusMach wrote:

BirdShooter7 wrote:

HeintusMach wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have made another Question were i asked which system i should go with, since i plan to switch from my "old" 1DX to an new Mirrorless Camera. I decided to stick with Canon since i have some lenses wich i really like, and i can use all old glas with the new Cameras too!

Now i have a kinda bigger problem: The Canon Eos R is an intersting Camera in my opinion still now, but the R6 has some advanteges, which are still significant for me.
My question now is, if someone used both, what their opionon on the switch was, is it worth the Upgrad, etc.

For those who didn't read my prior thread (so probably no one here), here is what i use it for(text from old thread):

My usecase is, that i make Portrait like Pictures of Animal, and Humans. With that i like photographing Flowers, fow a local Shop, since there is always a verity of them there. If im not creating Photos for an Client, im usually making Landscape and these kind of Portraits.
So my Problem is that i can't really tell with wich one i sould get. One mayor factor is, for me atleast, is the prize to performance. Im Currently transforming Photgraphy to my mane Job, and i get "bigger" contracts here and there. My 1DX is fine, but the Problem is that i can't really shoot silent, and some of my prior clients said, that the pictures were find, and usable, but it would be nicer, if their were sharper, and with more Detail.
I think from the Information i wrote it is clear, why im debating between those two cameras.
My main consern with the R6 is that it maybe has some less Deatil then the R but it has a superior AF, and a Animal AF, which can be useful. On the other side the R6 is like 800-1000€ (956-1195$) more expeniv than the R.
I also know that there were some threads already, but they couldn't really help me. In the end its still going to be my decision, but i need help to figure out which one is the better choise, since both are really good.
Looking forward to your answers
Heintz
(My current Gear is an 1DX with an 300mm f4. In the bag are an 70-300 Tamron, and a 50 1.8 from Canon and a 85mm 1.4 from Samyang)

Maybe something like a 100mm f/2.8 L Macro would be more helpful?

The Problem with that is that it is a nice lens sure, i thought about buying it, but i still have to deal with some problems. And Noice is one thing. The Shutter of the 1DX is not the quietest. So a new lens won't fix everything.

Well R6 with electronic shutter is actually silent and the sensor is top notch for sure. None of your lenses are extremely sharp so if the complaint is lack of sharpness then maybe the 100L might still be necessary.

I never said that i won't buy or have the 100mm. I actually had one, but i didn't really liked it so much at that time, so i sold it. Personally I like my 300mm more. I might still go for the 100mm again, but its like 3rd on the list of my wish list

Well nobody knows better than you what you want.