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Shutter Speed setting on Olympus Tg-6 with Fcon t01

Started Mar 11, 2021 | Questions
purrybones
purrybones New Member • Posts: 3
Shutter Speed setting on Olympus Tg-6 with Fcon t01

I'm new to the UW scene so I'd love some advice. From what I've gathered, min SS is only controllable with Auto ISO and flash turned on. With the Fcon t01 lens attached to my tg-6, flash is turned off. My auto ISO is maxed at 400 and , so far, the SS has been set to slower than 1/100, which seems too slow. Does anyone have advice on this? Or would like to share their settings?

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PHXAZCRAIG
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Re: Shutter Speed setting on Olympus Tg-6 with Fcon t01

My settings are based on experience with a Sony point-n-shoot followed by a D810 and a D850.

When I first got my Sony RX100 II, with dual strobes, I pretty much set things on auto or aperture-priority and went diving.   Got well-exposed blurry shots of fish tails swimming out of frame at 1/30th of a second.

I could tell this during the first dive, and I was immediately frustrated by the slow shutter speeds.   Looking for a 'right now' solution, I changed to shutter priority and ended up at 1/160th as a compromise speed.

1/160th - slower and I get blurry fish.   Faster and I start running into sync issues with the DSLRs, and of course I lose dynamic range as the ISO climbs.  Occasionally I'd dial back to 1/120th, but 1/160th seems to be the 'golden speed' of compromise.

On the RX100, I think I eventually set it to manual mode, set ISO to a max of 400, and played with strobe power.

On my Nikons I shoot much the same way, and in particular I still set a shutter speed of 1/160th, sometimes 1/200th.   My max sync speed with the YS-D1 strobes is right around 1/200th even though my shutter will sync at 1/320th.   The strobes just don't fire fast enough to avoid a black shadow across one side of the frame.

You have competing issues here.   You need a fast shutter speed, but at the same time you need the lowest ISO you can live with, especially if you are doing a lot of post-processing.   Ultimately you need to control the lighting with powerful strobes used within their range.

Over the years of post-processing underwater images from my Nikons, I've come to really try hard to shoot at base ISO (64 for me) because that gives me incredible dynamic range to work with.   Closest thing to medium format to this ancient photographer's experience.

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kelpdiver Veteran Member • Posts: 5,564
Re: Shutter Speed setting on Olympus Tg-6 with Fcon t01

Backscatter has been one of the biggest promoters of the TG line, and their review/articles try to advise how to work around the limitations of no manual mode for this camera.    Have you already looked through them?

The speed of the animal is the key bit here, as well as the depth.   Mantas pose the biggest problem, and their coloration complicates it further.   You really need to frame them properly vs the background.

As high lumen video lights get cheaper and cheaper, it becomes an option for WA big stuff that comes close.   Doesn't help for the more distant natural light only shooting.

purrybones
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Re: Shutter Speed setting on Olympus Tg-6 with Fcon t01

I did read Backscatter before posting. No mention of the fisheye lens. Without the Fcon lens, I supposed I could turn flash on, so that min SS can be set. However, I've heard that using camera flash uw isn't a good idea. Is this true?

purrybones
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Re: Shutter Speed setting on Olympus Tg-6 with Fcon t01

Thank you! This information is definitely useful. I'll try these settings on my next dive.

kelpdiver Veteran Member • Posts: 5,564
Re: Shutter Speed setting on Olympus Tg-6 with Fcon t01

purrybones wrote:

I did read Backscatter before posting. No mention of the fisheye lens. Without the Fcon lens, I supposed I could turn flash on, so that min SS can be set. However, I've heard that using camera flash uw isn't a good idea. Is this true?

it's draining on the battery, and cycle time is also an issue. If you're able to set the flash power to a minimal setting (some cameras have this). then the impact is low. You'd also want to mask it so it doesn't cause backscatter.

the lens shouldn't matter in the equation - it's still about wanting to do WA with ambient light. I'd expect Backscatter to have addressed this.

Barmaglot_07 Contributing Member • Posts: 633
Re: Shutter Speed setting on Olympus Tg-6 with Fcon t01

PHXAZCRAIG wrote:

My settings are based on experience with a Sony point-n-shoot followed by a D810 and a D850.

A nasty quirk of the TG series is that they don't have a fully manual mode. They have a bunch of auto and semi-auto modes, but nothing fully manual. There are ways to trick the camera into doing what you want, but they're not straightforward - read the Backscatter guides to TG operation for details. Experience with other cameras does not directly translate to this specific line.

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PHXAZCRAIG
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Re: Shutter Speed setting on Olympus Tg-6 with Fcon t01

If it has a shutter priority mode, I'd try that then.   Worked for me when I was first shooting the RX100 and frustrated with 1/30th shutter speeds.

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