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joelbolden Regular Member • Posts: 195
Minolta AF2
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I picked up an AF2 at auction that was in excellent condition.  I wanted an inconspicuous  film camera with AF for those rare occasions I'm in town, and want to try my hand at "street" photography.  Loaded it with Kodak Gold200 and gave it a try...not in town, but out in the country where I live.  It's actually a nice little camera that provides "snapshot" quality photos.  It does have vignetting on occasion, which is common in this camera, And is caused by the processing, not the lens itself. Out out of 25 exposures, 23 were in focus which isn't bad; the f2.8/38mm lens is of the usual Minolta quality. That first generation infra-red sensor also didn't seem to be bothered by the ice and snow. Next time I'm in town, I'll have to give it a workout on street scenes etc.

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Hike Pics Senior Member • Posts: 2,917
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Nice find, Joel. To me the lens looks nicely sharp and the exposures look right. The film also did a fine job, looks very natural on my tablet. I like the photos of both the group fishing and the man pulling his gear.

I think you will have a fun time out on the streets with the camera. The AF2 may be a plastic fantastic model but I have seen many wonderful images from it over the years.

I have 4 pointers from the Minolta line : AF-Tele, Freedom Zoom 115, Freedom Zoom 9T and Freedom Holiday. I have only ran film through the 9T so far. It is a big chunk of camera but the test roll I shot looked nice.

Hope to see your street shots in the future.

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FrancoD Forum Pro • Posts: 19,261
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I don't understand this :

It does have vignetting on occasion, which is common in this camera, And is caused by the processing, not the lens itself.

What do you mean by processing ?

If you mean by the D&P , no it can't do that or ,at least in theory ,it could be done in printing but that would be the same for all other films printed by the same machine.

OP joelbolden Regular Member • Posts: 195
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The lengthy review I read on the AF2 that discusses the vignetting stated it was caused by the in-camera processing.  It didn't go into detail.

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FrancoD Forum Pro • Posts: 19,261
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joelbolden wrote:

The lengthy review I read on the AF2 that discusses the vignetting stated it was caused by the in-camera processing. It didn't go into detail.

It's a film camera , there is no in camera processing.

The light comes through the lens at a different shutter speed and or aperture, it hits the film (upside-down) and that is it. The rest happens when the film is develloped and printed.

BTW, the reason I am pointing this out is because people use Google search and then just repeat what they find. If enough repeat the same mistake it then becomes a "fact".

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neilt3 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,008
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joelbolden wrote:

The lengthy review I read on the AF2 that discusses the vignetting stated it was caused by the in-camera processing. It didn't go into detail.

What review was that ?

Can you provide a link ?

Vignetting is caused by the lens , not the film processing , typical of wide angle lenses built to a lower budget .

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OP joelbolden Regular Member • Posts: 195
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neilt3 wrote:

joelbolden wrote:

The lengthy review I read on the AF2 that discusses the vignetting stated it was caused by the in-camera processing. It didn't go into detail.

What review was that ?

Can you provide a link ?

Vignetting is caused by the lens , not the film processing , typical of wide angle lenses built to a lower budget .

I suspect ya'll's understanding is a bit limited; as was mine. It's a little more complete now due to this Interesting article. The link I looked at was called the Casual Photophile. Here's a different link that describes vignetting in more technical terms. The types of vignetting that might be affecting these pics is described in The paragraphs under Optical and Natural vignetting and would especially affect Rangefinder type cameras.Vignetting - Wikipedia

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FrancoD Forum Pro • Posts: 19,261
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joelbolden wrote:

neilt3 wrote:

joelbolden wrote:

The lengthy review I read on the AF2 that discusses the vignetting stated it was caused by the in-camera processing. It didn't go into detail.

What review was that ?

Can you provide a link ?

Vignetting is caused by the lens , not the film processing , typical of wide angle lenses built to a lower budget .

I suspect ya'll's understanding is a bit limited; as was mine. It's a little more complete now due to this Interesting article. The link I looked at was called the Casual Photophile. Here's a different link that describes vignetting in more technical terms. The types of vignetting that might be affecting these pics is described in The paragraphs under Optical and Natural vignetting and would especially affect Rangefinder type cameras.Vignetting - Wikipedia

No need to suspect anything...

The one that is confused here is you.

Optical vignetting is caused by the lens.

Natural vignetting has to do with camera and lens design but it has nothing to do with processing anymore than putting a finger over the lens is processing.

(BTW, I sold film cameras for a living...)

On the other hand, there is a lot of "processing" going on inside digital cameras and that is one of the reasons why you see little vignetting on your photos now compared to years ago.

So the vignetting you see in those AF2 photos is because the image is un -processed....

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neilt3 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,008
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joelbolden wrote:

neilt3 wrote:

joelbolden wrote:

The lengthy review I read on the AF2 that discusses the vignetting stated it was caused by the in-camera processing. It didn't go into detail.

What review was that ?

Can you provide a link ?

Vignetting is caused by the lens , not the film processing , typical of wide angle lenses built to a lower budget .

I suspect ya'll's understanding is a bit limited; as was mine. It's a little more complete now due to this Interesting article. The link I looked at was called the Casual Photophile. Here's a different link that describes vignetting in more technical terms. The types of vignetting that might be affecting these pics is described in The paragraphs under Optical and Natural vignetting and would especially affect Rangefinder type cameras.Vignetting - Wikipedia

There's nothing in that article that I didn't already know .

Nor is it a review of the camera in question that you referred too , which is what I asked for  .

I've been shooting film a long time , and still do , from sub miniature formats to 8x10 large format film .

Vignetting can affect all formats but are always down to the same reasons .

A badly designed lens or mechanical blockage in the light path .

Vignetting with wide angle lenses on range finder cameras is still an issue with the lens design that's harder to correct than SLR lenses .

Large format lenses can also suffer from this where the solution is an expensive centre spot ND filter .

That's basically a screw on graduated ND filter that radiates out from the centre of the lens to darken the centre of the image as much as the outer to give even illumination .

I have one for my 90mm Super Angulon for when I'm using 5x7 film .

Same lens used on 5x4 doesn't need the centre filter as any vignetting is well out of the frame .

IIRC these filters are also available for some rangefinder lenses to correct this flaw .

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As already pointed out , there is no in camera processing with your camera .

The film is exposed , depending on the aperture the camera selects , vignetting occurs at the larger aperture's .

The film is removed from the camera and then processed .

The end result is as seen .

Unless someone sprinkled pixie dust on your camera , no processing takes place in camera .

I have quite a few point and shoot cameras as well . Most exhibit this flaw .

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neilt3 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,008
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I forgot to say thanks for posting the images , as I do like them .

What's happening in the last two , are they ice fishing ?

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Another thing to check is that the issues aren't to do with bad scanning .

The last one has certainly not been aligned correctly ( unless you were stood neat a telegraph pole when the shot was taken !) .

It shouldn't be the issue , but if you take a shot of the negative with a DSLR and macro lens ( that you know doesn't vignette ) then invert , and review that .

If vignetting is still present then it's the cameras fault , not the scanner .

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Hike Pics Senior Member • Posts: 2,917
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For those that live here in the states, there are several Hi-Matics coming up for auction at Shop Goodwill. Most are between $39 and $99 starting bid. There is an AF2 coming up starting at $9.99. it will be interesting to see how much it ends for.

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neilt3 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,008
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Hike Pics wrote:

For those that live here in the states, there are several Hi-Matics coming up for auction at Shop Goodwill. Most are between $39 and $99 starting bid. There is an AF2 coming up starting at $9.99. it will be interesting to see how much it ends for.

The current selling price of film point and shoot cameras have gone crazy !

I've never paid more than about £10 for any of mine .

I've got a new Minolta Prod 20's still boxed that I paid around £10-£20 for about 15 years ago .

These sell from between £100-£200 now .

Maybe now's the time to sell some gear ?

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sybersitizen Forum Pro • Posts: 24,267
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neilt3 wrote:

Hike Pics wrote:

For those that live here in the states, there are several Hi-Matics coming up for auction at Shop Goodwill. Most are between $39 and $99 starting bid. There is an AF2 coming up starting at $9.99. it will be interesting to see how much it ends for.

The current selling price of film point and shoot cameras have gone crazy !

I've never paid more than about £10 for any of mine .

I've got a new Minolta Prod 20's still boxed that I paid around £10-£20 for about 15 years ago .

These sell from between £100-£200 now .

Maybe now's the time to sell some gear ?

Last year I sold an Olympus Stylus Epic (35mm lens version) that had been sitting here unused for years. The buyer paid over $300 for it - about three times what it cost me new way back when.

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Hike Pics Senior Member • Posts: 2,917
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Definitely time to sell gear. I would like to sell enough to get another T* lens for my Contax.

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