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7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens

Started Feb 25, 2021 | Discussions
Alder Statesman
Alder Statesman New Member • Posts: 14
7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens

Has anyone tried one of these: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=7artisans%2018mm%20eos%20m&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma

I find this intriguing. Could be handy documenting details at work or street photography.

(Did a quick search and did not find a thread: sorry if this has been previously discussed.  )

 Alder Statesman's gear list:Alder Statesman's gear list
Canon EOS M Canon EOS M3 Voigtlander 21mm F4 Color Skopar Pancake II Canon EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM +9 more
nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,072
Re: 7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens

Alder Statesman wrote:

Has anyone tried one of these: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=7artisans%2018mm%20eos%20m&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma

I find this intriguing. Could be handy documenting details at work or street photography.

(Did a quick search and did not find a thread: sorry if this has been previously discussed. )

Multiple brands have made body lens caps in multiple mounts.  In all cases, calling the image quality "mediocre" would be very generous.

Alder Statesman
OP Alder Statesman New Member • Posts: 14
Re: 7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens
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nnowak wrote:

Alder Statesman wrote:

Has anyone tried one of these: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=7artisans%2018mm%20eos%20m&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma

I find this intriguing. Could be handy documenting details at work or street photography.

(Did a quick search and did not find a thread: sorry if this has been previously discussed. )

Multiple brands have made body lens caps in multiple mounts. In all cases, calling the image quality "mediocre" would be very generous.

Six elements in 4 groups should could lead to acceptable P&S results. No, not Zeiss quality, but I can get that with my other lenses.

Have you have had no personal experience with this lens or just shooting off your mouth based on what you read online from others?

It is such bs attitude that kills innovation.

 Alder Statesman's gear list:Alder Statesman's gear list
Canon EOS M Canon EOS M3 Voigtlander 21mm F4 Color Skopar Pancake II Canon EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM +9 more
nnowak Veteran Member • Posts: 9,072
Re: 7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens
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Alder Statesman wrote:

nnowak wrote:

Alder Statesman wrote:

Has anyone tried one of these: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=7artisans%2018mm%20eos%20m&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma

I find this intriguing. Could be handy documenting details at work or street photography.

(Did a quick search and did not find a thread: sorry if this has been previously discussed. )

Multiple brands have made body lens caps in multiple mounts. In all cases, calling the image quality "mediocre" would be very generous.

Six elements in 4 groups should could lead to acceptable P&S results. No, not Zeiss quality, but I can get that with my other lenses.

Have you have had no personal experience with this lens or just shooting off your mouth based on what you read online from others?

It is such bs attitude that kills innovation.

Wow!  Good luck with that.

23speaker23 Contributing Member • Posts: 557
Re: 7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens
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Alder Statesman wrote:

Has anyone tried one of these: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=7artisans%2018mm%20eos%20m&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma

I find this intriguing. Could be handy documenting details at work or street photography.

(Did a quick search and did not find a thread: sorry if this has been previously discussed. )

What is the intended use of this lens? Or for the entire category of such body cap lenses...

I mean there is the 22/2 pancake lens which is not that bigger if you consider the camera+lens combo.

I can see the price is $69 vs $249 for the 22/2. Okay... But you are into a interchangable lens world and obviously you've considered the cost of lenses before taking this journey.

And it's lenses first, cameras next (in my book at least).

So... where I'm getting at is that the 22/2 sits on my m6 all the time unless I know I will be shooting my kid with the sigma 56 or I have any other specific shooting scenario ahead for a different lens.

And I count on having a good shot with this little combo.

If I had an 18mm/6.3 lens on my m6 I wouldn't bother carring it at all. I'd rather use my phone.

bgreg
bgreg Contributing Member • Posts: 641
Re: 7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens
istscott
istscott Regular Member • Posts: 467
Re: 7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens
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1gregory1 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcAZrDMgHE-- review

That video is with extension tubes. It's actually pretty decent in that context. I also have a video with normal landscape photos. The vignetting is... rough.

https://youtu.be/3LalrrQmHw8

I haven't attempted to use this in a city setting.  It might be okay, but the vignetting is so extreme that I think it's got to be a thing the photographer really really likes the look of to consider this lens. The same is true for the Rockstar 10mm, but that has a bit more versatility because it can focus.

Pergear has a similar lens that was recently released. It appears to do better with vignetting (from the videos I've seen), but they don't offer it in EF-M.

23speaker23 Contributing Member • Posts: 557
Re: 7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens
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istscott wrote:

1gregory1 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcAZrDMgHE-- review

That video is with extension tubes. It's actually pretty decent in that context. I also have a video with normal landscape photos. The vignetting is... rough.

https://youtu.be/3LalrrQmHw8

I haven't attempted to use this in a city setting. It might be okay, but the vignetting is so extreme that I think it's got to be a thing the photographer really really likes the look of to consider this lens. The same is true for the Rockstar 10mm, but that has a bit more versatility because it can focus.

Pergear has a similar lens that was recently released. It appears to do better with vignetting (from the videos I've seen), but they don't offer it in EF-M.

This stil does not answer why.

The simplicity and size... 22/2 is not that bigger nor more complicated.

Honestly... why would you bother buying and carrying an ILC with this lens as compared to a phone?

istscott
istscott Regular Member • Posts: 467
Re: 7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens

23speaker23 wrote:

istscott wrote:

1gregory1 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcAZrDMgHE-- review

That video is with extension tubes. It's actually pretty decent in that context. I also have a video with normal landscape photos. The vignetting is... rough.

https://youtu.be/3LalrrQmHw8

I haven't attempted to use this in a city setting. It might be okay, but the vignetting is so extreme that I think it's got to be a thing the photographer really really likes the look of to consider this lens. The same is true for the Rockstar 10mm, but that has a bit more versatility because it can focus.

Pergear has a similar lens that was recently released. It appears to do better with vignetting (from the videos I've seen), but they don't offer it in EF-M.

This stil does not answer why.

The simplicity and size... 22/2 is not that bigger nor more complicated.

Honestly... why would you bother buying and carrying an ILC with this lens as compared to a phone?

I bought the two bodycap lenses because they looked interesting. I had seen the Olympus m4/3rds ones and was curious.

Who lives in a world of complete functional justification? I don't care much about absolute resolution even though these cap lenses do a decent job there. Phone ergonomics are a joke even if I still use one for photos occasionally. I already have a 22mm. It's fine, though the thickness difference is noticable, especially if I still had an m100 series camera (sold that off a while back, oops)

23speaker23 Contributing Member • Posts: 557
Re: 7Artisans 18mm UFO Lens

istscott wrote:

23speaker23 wrote:

istscott wrote:

1gregory1 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKcAZrDMgHE-- review

That video is with extension tubes. It's actually pretty decent in that context. I also have a video with normal landscape photos. The vignetting is... rough.

https://youtu.be/3LalrrQmHw8

I haven't attempted to use this in a city setting. It might be okay, but the vignetting is so extreme that I think it's got to be a thing the photographer really really likes the look of to consider this lens. The same is true for the Rockstar 10mm, but that has a bit more versatility because it can focus.

Pergear has a similar lens that was recently released. It appears to do better with vignetting (from the videos I've seen), but they don't offer it in EF-M.

This stil does not answer why.

The simplicity and size... 22/2 is not that bigger nor more complicated.

Honestly... why would you bother buying and carrying an ILC with this lens as compared to a phone?

I bought the two bodycap lenses because they looked interesting. I had seen the Olympus m4/3rds ones and was curious.

Who lives in a world of complete functional justification? I don't care much about absolute resolution even though these cap lenses do a decent job there. Phone ergonomics are a joke even if I still use one for photos occasionally. I already have a 22mm. It's fine, though the thickness difference is noticable, especially if I still had an m100 series camera (sold that off a while back, oops)

Okay... I get the 'was curious' part. I thought I was missing something on the functional side. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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