Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?

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bowman
bowman Contributing Member • Posts: 715
Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?

I had just about decided to change my d850 for a z711 but then had a thought!

In the uk the difference in price between the z611 and z711 is £1000.

The trade in price of a d850 varies from £1550_ 1600, this begs the question, change the D850 for a Z711  or keep the mint D850 and buy into the Z system by buying a z611? For about difference in total cost of  about £500.

The second question is should I trade in my mint 24_ 70 f2.8 g value trade in between £350 _£500 or keep it to use with z11 and d500?

Over to you please.

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lokatz
lokatz Senior Member • Posts: 2,165
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Why are you asking the same question again?  Didn't like the answers the first time?

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bowman
OP bowman Contributing Member • Posts: 715
Re: Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?

Not quite the same question thank you

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mrjpack Contributing Member • Posts: 880
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I kept my D850 and purchased a Z62 I decided to wait for a more  advanced Z7 or 8 before I invested that much in Nikon mirrorless since the 850 is still a fantastic camera. The Z6 is a wonderful camera though and I reach for it more often than the 850... The 850 is now used for sports and landscape Z6 is portraits and walk around.

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mrbr Veteran Member • Posts: 3,484
Re: Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?
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bowman wrote:

I had just about decided to change my d850 for a z711 but then had a thought!

In the uk the difference in price between the z611 and z711 is £1000.

The trade in price of a d850 varies from £1550_ 1600, this begs the question, change the D850 for a Z711 or keep the mint D850 and buy into the Z system by buying a z611? For about difference in total cost of about £500.

The second question is should I trade in my mint 24_ 70 f2.8 g value trade in between £350 _£500 or keep it to use with z11 and d500?

Over to you please.

Hi,

Some questions ....

What would be the use for the Z6II ?

Do you have limitations with your D850 and/or D500 systems ?

Wat is the budget you want to spend on the Z system ?

I see you have a D850 and a D500 and F-lenses including the excellent 24-70 f2.8. These systems should be working fine for many years to come ( but trade-in value will continue to become lower and lower ... ).

If you buy the Z6II + S 24-70 f4 or S 24-200 lens this system could complement the D850 and D500 as walk-around and travel camerasystem and would allow you to grow slowly into the new Z system and you could wait to buy additional Z gear when appropriate/needed.

Just some thoughts.

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Greetings,
Marc

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dj_paige
dj_paige Senior Member • Posts: 2,399
Re: Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?

bowman wrote:

I had just about decided to change my d850 for a z711 but then had a thought!

In the uk the difference in price between the z611 and z711 is £1000.

The trade in price of a d850 varies from £1550_ 1600, this begs the question, change the D850 for a Z711 or keep the mint D850 and buy into the Z system by buying a z611? For about difference in total cost of about £500.

The second question is should I trade in my mint 24_ 70 f2.8 g value trade in between £350 _£500 or keep it to use with z11 and d500?

Over to you please.

What benefits would you want from a potential change of cameras? What does the Z system offer that you need/want but don't have now? What motivates you to consider this?

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Paige Miller

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gnet158 Veteran Member • Posts: 3,082
Re: Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?

Keep you D850 unless you really need Eye/Face AF.  Still a great DSLR.

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I got to get out and shoot more.

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bowman
OP bowman Contributing Member • Posts: 715
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Thank You all for your input, out of courtesy I will tell you I part exchanged my D850 & 24-70 f2.8g for a Z711, Adapter and 24-70f4.

Within the first day I realised that for me it was the right move, Whilst I loved the image quality of the D850 I was never in love with the camera, the the weight and size of my most used kit, the 850 and 24-70 f2.8g. I also found the shutter sound in normal use an annoyance.

My D500 with the 16-80 is quick, quiet and just a little easier for my small hands, I never used or saw any reason to use the D500 with the 24-70 2.8.

I will not go into the merits of the Z711 except to say that I am very content with the change and it will definitely replace the D850/2.8f combination.

I can not see me letting the D500 go though I believe that camera and the Z711 will be a great combination for me.

The other bonus is my Voiglander 35mm Nocton Classic f1.4 makes a brilliant light street/travel camera, the Leica m to Z adapter, https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B088C3QC11/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

£30 from amazon excellent quality and price.

So Thank you again for your help.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/redfrog724/

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lokatz
lokatz Senior Member • Posts: 2,165
Re: Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?

Enjoy your new camera!

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bowman
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Thank You

Keep Safe

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mrbr Veteran Member • Posts: 3,484
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Hi,

Thank you for keeping us informed. IMO you did a good move resulting in the best of both the dslr and mirrorless  worlds !

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Greetings,
Marc

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Re: Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?
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Only you can decide. But I like to run my D810 side by side with my Z7.

I have several F lenses that do not exist in Z and I avoid using the FTZ adaptor.

I would go down the Z6 road perhaps.

bowman
OP bowman Contributing Member • Posts: 715
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Well to be honest I wish I had kept my D810, looking at my old images I really saw nothing except focus stacking, flip up screen and focus peaking that was a worthwhile improvement. I do not understand why but it seemed a much nicer camera for me in the real world. Yes OK Dynamic range, but not a lot wrong with the  D810.

O yes almost forgot the touch screen!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/redfrog724/50837954503/in/dateposted-public/

This will print up to at least 48"wide and retain image quality, From D810 or was it my D800?

Thank you for your interest and keep safe,

John B

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philofax New Member • Posts: 10
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can you do me a favor?

it's Z6 II or Z7 II. Those are roman numbers. I stands for 1 but II does not qual 11, it's 2.

Romans count I II III IV V. and so on ..

And .. most important .. have fun with your Z7 II.

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Lance B
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Re: Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?

bowman wrote:

Well to be honest I wish I had kept my D810, looking at my old images I really saw nothing except focus stacking, flip up screen and focus peaking that was a worthwhile improvement. I do not understand why but it seemed a much nicer camera for me in the real world. Yes OK Dynamic range, but not a lot wrong with the D810.

O yes almost forgot the touch screen!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/redfrog724/50837954503/in/dateposted-public/

This will print up to at least 48"wide and retain image quality, From D810 or was it my D800?

Thank you for your interest and keep safe,

John B

Nice photo. Although the info/EXIF under the photo states:

Leaf Aptus-II 10(LI301893 )/Phase One 645DF/645AF35.0 mm

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bowman
OP bowman Contributing Member • Posts: 715
Re: Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?

Lance,

Hello, The car was shot with my Nikon D810 the background in North Wales, The background scene by Lea Minshull with a medium format camera with a Leaf Digital back.

Regards John B

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bowman
OP bowman Contributing Member • Posts: 715
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Well I did it!

Changed my D850 & 24-70 2.8g for the Z711 kit.

Here is a link to my first sort of landscape from near my front garden shot with the new camera and 24-70 fZ.

I am learning the new camera but already know I have made the correct choice,

The weight loss & size is a bonus to me and I do feel the image quality is at least equal.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/redfrog724/50866381858/in/dateposted/

I am so pleased with the z711 that there is a slight doubt weather I will keep the D500 long term.

So thanks again friends for you interest and advice,

Regards John B

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lokatz
lokatz Senior Member • Posts: 2,165
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Personally, I prefer a 911 over a 711, but hey, that's me. 

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Roy Kikuta Senior Member • Posts: 1,909
Re: Z711 or z611 and keep my d850?

bowman wrote:

...I am so pleased with the z711 that there is a slight doubt weather I will keep the D500 long term.

Regards John B

Based on an earlier post of yours wherein you stated an intent to keep your D500 - I was going to predict that you would let it go sooner, rather than later.  But in this more recent post, you seem to have already come around to that decision.   My D500 lasted 6 months alongside the Z6 - and I now have a Z7II to complement the Z6.  Welcome to the Nikon mirrorless world!

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