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R7 Resolution Rumors

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9VIII Senior Member • Posts: 1,331
R7 Resolution Rumors
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http://thenewcamera.com/canon-eos-r7-rumored-specification/

Report is Canon is testing multiple sensors in the R7 body, which one do you think they should choose to release?

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20MP
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32.5MP
74.4% 61  votes
45MP
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Both 20MP and 45MP Variants
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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,127
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I found 45 MP at 20fps became burdensome when I rented the R5 so if Canon does give 45 MP I hope they give an option to reduce the FPS in ES mode to say 10 or so.  Otherwise I think the 32MP sensor is a pretty good compromise.

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MikeJ9116 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,955
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I think their current flagship APS-C sensor will be used with faster readout and some other tweaks.

moon1029 Regular Member • Posts: 304
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asp-c 45mp would be unusable above ISO 6400

Continuous shooting speed used to be what differentiates the 7D series from the 5D series. But now the R5/R6 has 12fps and top-notch AF. An asp-c R camera seems much less attractive except for a lower price.

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MikeJ9116 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,955
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moon1029 wrote:

asp-c 45mp would be unusable above ISO 6400

Continuous shooting speed used to be what differentiates the 7D series from the 5D series. But now the R5/R6 has 12fps and top-notch AF. An asp-c R camera seems much less attractive except for a lower price.

While some people see the 1.6X crop of an APS-C sensor as a disadvantage, a lot of people see it as a big advantage.  A 32mp APS-C sensor puts a lot more pixels on the target than a 45mp FF sensor.  For me, an additional attraction of an RF mount APS-C camera is I can adapt the very good, small, lightweight EF-S lenses I own to it.

Steve Balcombe Forum Pro • Posts: 15,571
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9VIII wrote:

http://thenewcamera.com/canon-eos-r7-rumored-specification/

Report is Canon is testing multiple sensors in the R7 body, which one do you think they should choose to release?

This is not so much a rumour as the same intelligent guess that any rational person would make. R6 body (though personally I would prefer R5, especially the viewfinder), R6 performance, with an update of the already-excellent 90D sensor. IBIS of course. £/€/$2,250, maybe a bit more.

Canon is sometimes accused of being unimaginative, and in this case that's just fine.

Edit: I'm not sure whether a CFexpress card is needed for 12/20fps at 32.5 MP and a buffer of at least a couple of hundred frames. But if it is, then that's another reason to get close to the R5 body. This has to be a high-performance body to justify its existence.

sportyaccordy Forum Pro • Posts: 20,562
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I feel like a 45MP R7 will cost more than the R5 due to the worse economies of scale.

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ProDude Senior Member • Posts: 4,851
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9VIII wrote:

http://thenewcamera.com/canon-eos-r7-rumored-specification/

Report is Canon is testing multiple sensors in the R7 body, which one do you think they should choose to release?

Most agree as I do, the 32mp would be the best compromise and satisfy the largest number of people who are prospects for this camera. It would allow for more cropping but keep the speed up.

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justmeMN Forum Pro • Posts: 10,706
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Canon's 32.5MP APS-C sensor is underutilized. It's the logical choice.

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fredlord Veteran Member • Posts: 3,303
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Wouldn't a 45mp crop sensor be the equivalent of 115mp full-frame sensor? If so, it would be all new territory.

The 90D sensor is awfully good and would make a good size for the R7.

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Frodro100 Regular Member • Posts: 386
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The 32.5MP sensor would be logical. They put that into the 90D and M6 Mark II and it seems to be a really capable sensor in those bodies. The philosophy of an R7 with such a sensor might be something in between those two models but taken a step further--the full-time electronic viewfinder and AF tracking capabilities (while using the viewfinder) of mirrorless, but the ergonomics of an SLR-shaped body. Add in a buffer like what's found on the R6/R5 and the price of the R (or maybe less) and I think they'd have a winner.

thunder storm Forum Pro • Posts: 10,139
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MikeJ9116 wrote:

For me, an additional attraction of an RF mount APS-C camera is I can adapt the very good, small, lightweight EF-S lenses I own to it.

Isn't ef-s glass getting a bit too outdated already to make an 32Mp aps-c sensor more interesting than a full frame sensor?

I can think of 2 crop lenses - the sigma 56mm f/1.4 and the Canon 32mm f/1.4 - , but those have the ef-m mount. There are other relatively compact lenses on crop, but those cover the full frame circle too.  The sigma f/1.8 zooms? These are crop lense, but not compact at all.

Would the ef-s 24mm f/2.8 stm be better on a 32Mp crop sensor than the RF 35mm f/1.8 is stm on a full frame sensor? I don't think so. Yes, the 24mm is a pancake, but with the adapter that advantage has gone.

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MikeJ9116 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,955
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thunder storm wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

For me, an additional attraction of an RF mount APS-C camera is I can adapt the very good, small, lightweight EF-S lenses I own to it.

Isn't ef-s glass getting a bit too outdated already to make an 32Mp aps-c sensor more interesting than a full frame sensor?

I will find out if an RF mount APS-C camera is released. So far they are plenty good for a 24mp sensor and 32mp isn't all that far off. I think they will do fine for my needs.

I can think of 2 crop lenses - the sigma 56mm f/1.4 and the Canon 32mm f/1.4 - , but those have the ef-m mount. There are other relatively compact lenses on crop, but those cover the full frame circle too. The sigma f/1.8 zooms? These are crop lense, but not compact at all.

I expect there will be plenty of 2nd party RF lenses over time. It seems like some people think the RF lens catalog is frozen when it will keep growing and maturing over time.

Would the ef-s 24mm f/2.8 stm be better on a 32Mp crop sensor than the RF 35mm f/1.8 is stm on a full frame sensor? I don't think so. Yes, the 24mm is a pancake, but with the adapter that advantage has gone.

I think, in general, crop lenses provide a better balance of performance versus weight and size than using FF glass. There are some exceptions but those lenses usually are not stabilized. If an R7 does show it should have IBIS which will help a lot with adapting several of EF the primes I use.

Jotoco Regular Member • Posts: 233
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I don't think even the new RF glass can resolve 45mpx crop sensor.  That is just too demanding.

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MikeJ9116 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,955
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Jotoco wrote:

I don't think even the new RF glass can resolve 45mpx crop sensor. That is just too demanding.

I would faint and fall out of my seat if Canon put out a 45mp APS-C sensor.

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9VIII wrote:

http://thenewcamera.com/canon-eos-r7-rumored-specification/

Report is Canon is testing multiple sensors in the R7 body, which one do you think they should choose to release?

I reckon an R7 would be targeted at photographers who want speed and reach. 20MP would be underwhelming and Canon already has a 32MP sensor for APSC.

I am not sure about lenses though. The current RF line up is not very attractive for APSC. They should come out with at least a suitable kit lens.

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BirdShooter7 Veteran Member • Posts: 9,127
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MikeJ9116 wrote:

Jotoco wrote:

I don't think even the new RF glass can resolve 45mpx crop sensor. That is just too demanding.

I would faint and fall out of my seat if Canon put out a 45mp APS-C sensor.

I probably would too but then I was pretty surprised by the 32MP one so who knows.

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Jotoco Regular Member • Posts: 233
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BirdShooter7 wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Jotoco wrote:

I don't think even the new RF glass can resolve 45mpx crop sensor. That is just too demanding.

I would faint and fall out of my seat if Canon put out a 45mp APS-C sensor.

I probably would too but then I was pretty surprised by the 32MP one so who knows.

That will be another 700 threads about how the new r7 focus is "soft", like the 90d. The glass is just not sharp enough.

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quiquae Senior Member • Posts: 2,265
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lighthunter80 wrote:

9VIII wrote:

http://thenewcamera.com/canon-eos-r7-rumored-specification/

Report is Canon is testing multiple sensors in the R7 body, which one do you think they should choose to release?

I reckon an R7 would be targeted at photographers who want speed and reach. 20MP would be underwhelming and Canon already has a 32MP sensor for APSC.

I am not sure about lenses though. The current RF line up is not very attractive for APSC. They should come out with at least a suitable kit lens.

The rumored RF 18-45 would fit the bill for a crop standard zoom, if a bit short on the long end, and the already-released 70-200/100-500 would be great long telephoto lenses on crop. They need to do something about the 45-70mm gap, though: carrying an 18-45 and 24-70 or 24-105 together doesn’t sound terribly elegant. Perhaps this may be a good time for Sigma to step in with a 50-150F2.8?

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OP 9VIII Senior Member • Posts: 1,331
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There is really no need to have dedicated APS-C glass on RF mount if all the bodies are going to have IBIS, Canon has the opportunity to assume they can use all the space of a 35mm sensor for stabilization.

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