My T7i is so good...

Early in the development of digital cameras, every new version had important improvements. However, by now I find that my T7i is so good that I really don't need a "new and improved" camera. I bought it 2 1/2 years ago for $580. I already had some lenses, and added an 85mm f/1.8 USM lens for $280 which is great for portraits. For that minimal expense (in quality camera terms) I have a kit that is quite good enough for me, probably for a long time. I glance at all the new releases, mostly mirrorless these days, and am not even tempted.

Digirame wrote:

Here's one I got at ISO4000 today with the Canon T7i (800D) camera. It allows me to take pictures when it is rather dark, during the winter months.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64709244

Wow, that's a great shot. I've essentially stopped worrying about high ISOs and just use the ISO I need to get the shot. I shoot RAW and convert with DxO and its Prime (now DeepPrime) noise reduction when needed.

I'm considering getting one, as I have old lenses.  I had considered getting a Sony A-series, as it is small.  But, yet again, I have existing lenses.

Lepewhi wrote:

I'm considering getting one, as I have old lenses. I had considered getting a Sony A-series, as it is small. But, yet again, I have existing lenses.

And if you're missing lenses you want, most are available very inexpensively. I'm thinking of the 24mm and 40 mm f/2.8 pancake lenses, 50 mm f/1/8, 55-250 mm STM, and 85 mm f/1.8 USM.

tkbslc wrote:

Honestly can say the same about nearly all cameras from the past 5 years.

I think that's true.

seri_art wrote:

tkbslc wrote:

Honestly can say the same about nearly all cameras from the past 5 years.

I think that's true.

Really enjoyed my t7i while I shot with it. Even took it to India! The only downsides and reasons I eventually changed were the small dim viewfinder, none customisable autofocus settings, lack of manual controls, and also the lack of lens micro adjust which I felt was important for a DSLR. I also really adore the benefits of mirrorless cameras now.  I still have my t7i though and did some great shots with it! I should sell it, but I am nostalgic about our time together!

Digirame wrote:

Would it have been better if I purchased a Canon 90D instead of two Canon T7i (800D) cameras (even though it was still less money)? How about the Canon EOS R camera? That one looks excellent, but it is more expensive.

Well, if you consider the following DXOMark measurements , it would seem that the T7i and 90D are already pretty close to one another, while the EOS R has a significant dynamic range advantage.

First, there's a caveat that the link compares the 77D, which is considered equivalent to the T7i, and the M6, which uses the same sensor/processor as the 90D.  If you accept that equivalence then you see the T7i and 90D have effectively the same dynamic range from ISO 300 to 3200 with the T7i holding and advantage at lower ISOs and the 90D pulling slightly ahead at higher ISO - but not by very much.  The EOS R on the other hand is easily 1 to 2 stops ahead on in the ISO 300-3200 range.  After all, the R is a full frame camera, while the others are APS-C.

So if you're looking for better low light performance the EOS R wins hands down.  But I can't see a reason to buy the 90D on ISO performance alone - although autofocus, burst rate and ergonomics may be important to you as well.

What I can't tell, and I'd be interested to hear, is whether or not a newer camera like the 90D will deliver a clearer, sharper and better color image than the T7i, given that the specs don't tell the whole story.

Thoughts?

Dave G123 wrote:

Digirame wrote:

Would it have been better if I purchased a Canon 90D instead of two Canon T7i (800D) cameras (even though it was still less money)? How about the Canon EOS R camera? That one looks excellent, but it is more expensive.

Well, if you consider the following DXOMark measurements , it would seem that the T7i and 90D are already pretty close to one another, while the EOS R has a significant dynamic range advantage.

First, there's a caveat that the link compares the 77D, which is considered equivalent to the T7i, and the M6, which uses the same sensor/processor as the 90D. If you accept that equivalence then you see the T7i and 90D have effectively the same dynamic range from ISO 300 to 3200 with the T7i holding and advantage at lower ISOs and the 90D pulling slightly ahead at higher ISO - but not by very much. The EOS R on the other hand is easily 1 to 2 stops ahead on in the ISO 300-3200 range. After all, the R is a full frame camera, while the others are APS-C.

So if you're looking for better low light performance the EOS R wins hands down. But I can't see a reason to buy the 90D on ISO performance alone - although autofocus, burst rate and ergonomics may be important to you as well.

What I can't tell, and I'd be interested to hear, is whether or not a newer camera like the 90D will deliver a clearer, sharper and better color image than the T7i, given that the specs don't tell the whole story.

Thoughts?

Whilst the 90d and t7i sensor seem similar from your post, don’t forget the 90d is 32mp versus the 24mp of the t7i, so to deliver the same ISO performance with all that extra resolution is really good! So it depends on whether you need that extra resolution.
Other differences which may or may not be important to you between these two bodies: weather sealing, battery life, video quality, video AF in live view, live view still AF and shooting speed, viewfinder shooting speed, customisable AF settings, manual focus adjust feature, manual controls.

So it depends what you need. The 90d has better features in the areas I’ve described just now, but many won’t need or want them. T7i is a cracking camera I think, enjoyed mine on my travels.

Digirame wrote:

You can see what I wrote directly above. What benefits do you find with the mirrorless cameras? If they were substantial I may purchase one some day as an additional camera. Many many years ago, I used to like my 6mp Sony H2 camera (for one reason because it was so quiet). I think the mirrorless cameras still make some noise when taking pictures but just not as much as DSLR cameras from what I can find on the internet.

I think the significant benefits of a MILC are more focus points, easier exposure settings through the view finder, and no need for lens calibration or micro adjustment.