Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

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Qbalion
Qbalion Contributing Member • Posts: 584
Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

Hi,

It seems it is really hard to find some fast standard zoom lens for my Z50. I'd like to use such in lower light conditions indoors to shoot some family events. An alternative could also be 24mm prime but I'd prefer a bit slower zoom but equipped with VR.

I have been evaluating Sigma C 17-70 but was not happy with loud, slow, and often erratic AF.

I wonder if Sigma 17-50 or maybe Sony would perform better? Do you have any experience with those glasses adapted to Z50?

Thank you very much

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ZapperVT Contributing Member • Posts: 926
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50
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I'll repeat my opinion that the 16-80 is the most satisfactory solution to your needs. Although if you are particular about AF noises you may not like it either. I bought a refurb for $679.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1273291-REG/nikon_20055b_af_s_dx_nikkor_16_80mm.html

I think it's worth $679. The. MSRP of $1067 is overpriced.

The Sigma 17-50 would be my next choice, although I experienced some AF glitchiness on a D5600. My history was this: I had both Sigmas and kept the 17-50. Then I got the 16-80, and eventually sold the 17-50.

Qbalion wrote:

Hi,

It seems it is really hard to find some fast standard zoom lens for my Z50. I'd like to use such in lower light conditions indoors to shoot some family events. An alternative could also be 24mm prime but I'd prefer a bit slower zoom but equipped with VR.

I have been evaluating Sigma C 17-70 but was not happy with loud, slow, and often erratic AF.

I wonder if Sigma 17-50 or maybe Sony would perform better? Do you have any experience with those glasses adapted to Z50?

Thank you very much

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ZapperVT Contributing Member • Posts: 926
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

The Sony 16-55 f/2.8 costs $1300 + $250 for the TZE01 adapter.  This will give you a combination with iffy AF performce according to TZE01 reviews.  Not a choice I would make.

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Henderson92 Junior Member • Posts: 47
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

Z50 does not work with TZE adapter without chopping some parts too btw

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Tootsall
Tootsall Senior Member • Posts: 1,808
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

I have the Sigma 17-50 and it works on Z50 as long as it has the firmware update they used back when the D5300 came out.  Sigma will update it for you if you end up buying second hand and it hasn’t had the update yet (as happened to another participant in this forum).

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Henderson92 Junior Member • Posts: 47
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

Tootsall wrote:

I have the Sigma 17-50 and it works on Z50 as long as it has the firmware update they used back when the D5300 came out. Sigma will update it for you if you end up buying second hand and it hasn’t had the update yet (as happened to another participant in this forum).

You mean your 'FTZ' adapter works fine?

I meant 'TZE' adapter since Sony's 16-50mm was mentioned originally.

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Tootsall
Tootsall Senior Member • Posts: 1,808
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

Yes, no problem. I can and have used the FTZ with every lens listed in my gear list.  Well, all but the Z lenses 😉

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ZapperVT Contributing Member • Posts: 926
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Henderson92 wrote:

Z50 does not work with TZE adapter without chopping some parts too btw

Good point. I bookmarked the instruction for modding the TZE01 by member Aussibum in case I ever get one. Here it is:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4509039

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Tootsall
Tootsall Senior Member • Posts: 1,808
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

Let me add that if you are using "Auto Focus, Full Time" in video mode then you probably won't be happy with the slight noise from the Sigma. If, however, you are just shooting stills then the sound isn't at all objectionable; not as loud as the curtain movement in non-silent mode. Certainly it is noisier than the kit 16-50 however but then, there is a lot more to move around inside the larger lens.

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Qbalion
OP Qbalion Contributing Member • Posts: 584
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

And what about Nikkor 17-55 2.8 IG?

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Tootsall
Tootsall Senior Member • Posts: 1,808
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I was out last night taking pictures of the Christmas lights so by mistake I left the -1EV on. Here are a couple of shots taken just now inside my "man cave" with no artificial light. I can't answer on the Nikon f2.8...when i purchased the Sigma I tried it and the Nikon side-by-side and felt that the Sigma was just as good but for about 1/3 to 1/2 of the price of the Nikon. Decision made.

These are just quick snaps, RAW and converted in PhotoLab.  The piano is very dark oak and remember, -1EV was left in.

Outdoors for comparison, about a 150% crop.

Not trying to sell you on the Sigma, at the end of the day you'll pick what you decide on.  Just showing what you can get "in the dark" with it.

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ZapperVT Contributing Member • Posts: 926
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Qbalion wrote:

And what about Nikkor 17-55 2.8 IG?

https://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/lens-databases-for-nikon/thoms-recommended-lenses.html

  • 17-55mm f/2.8. Big, heavy lens, and not a bargain. Third party options better.

On the other hand, you can get one used for ~$500.

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Qbalion
OP Qbalion Contributing Member • Posts: 584
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

Thanks again for sharing.

It seems very hard in DX world to cover such focal range with good and fast stabilized zoom. Ideally I'd go with some Nikkor 16-50 2.8 VR if such exists

I am going to consider 16-80 vs Sigma 17-50.

FX guys have far better choice with already very good 24-70 4.0 and even faster, "golden" but expensive 2.8.

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Qbalion
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Z50 in body compensation

Do you know if 16-80 vigneting is compensted by Z50? I wonder if this is don for RAW and/or JPGs as it seems one of this lens drawbacks.

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Qbalion
OP Qbalion Contributing Member • Posts: 584
Sigma 17-70 pictures - not bad?

Maybe I should not strike out this Sigma C 17-70? It has some drawbacks but at the same time it can make somenice macro shoots. Maybe it requires a firmware update to behave better with Z50+FTZ?

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mrbr Veteran Member • Posts: 3,526
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Hi,

Merry Christmas !

That is how Nikon lures us into their FF system...

Yes, why not live ( and find your work-arounds ) with the 17-70 lens drawbacks and use it most where the lens has its strong points ? Good idea IMO.

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Marc

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ZapperVT Contributing Member • Posts: 926
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The biggest drawback to Nikon DX is the lack of DX lenses in general.

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ZapperVT Contributing Member • Posts: 926
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Qbalion wrote:

Do you know if 16-80 vigneting is compensted by Z50? I wonder if this is don for RAW and/or JPGs as it seems one of this lens drawbacks.

Yes if you have vignetting comp turned on in photo shooting menu. Works in jpegs and in raw. In raw it also depends on the settings in your raw software. In Capture NX-D it looks just like the jpegs by default. Vignetting is common in many new lens designs because it is assumed it will be fixed in software. It allows more compact lens designs. The f/4 S lenses vignette a lot too. I don't see any vignetting issues with the comp turned on with this lens on a Z50 in either raw or jpeg.

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mrbr Veteran Member • Posts: 3,526
Re: Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Sony 16–50 F2.8 for Z50

ZapperVT wrote:

The biggest drawback to Nikon DX is the lack of DX lenses in general.

That is THE problem !!

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Greetings,
Marc

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