New visitor in my garden

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CrisL Contributing Member • Posts: 887
New visitor in my garden
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Today I have the surprise to look at a new visitor in my garden

It's shoot through my double glazed windows and I think the comparison between the

sooc jpg and the processed raw is interesting

Process with DXO PL 4 DeepPrime denoise + Topaz Studio 2

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jshen808
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Great results with using the softwares!

Thanks for sharing & happy snapping.

Cheers!

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As always from you, my friend, not only an excellent image, but also impressively PPed!

Thank you for sharing and happy shooting,

Augustin

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ANAYV Forum Pro • Posts: 20,360
Re: New visitor in my garden

Very nice visitor CrisL

I see Clear View fixing up the haze from the window.

Really impressed with Deep PRIME in this PL 4

Tried it out on my D300s at ISO 3200.

Pretty good results.

Stay healthy

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Beautiful image, nice job!

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OP CrisL Contributing Member • Posts: 887
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Thank you all my friends

Indeed DeepPrime very useful for P950 P1000 raws

Another one with details

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Re: New visitor in my garden

CrisL wrote:

Thank you all my friends

Indeed DeepPrime very useful for P950 P1000 raws

Another one with details

Wow, fantastic results!!

Thanks for sharing my friend.

Cheers!

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OutsideTheMatrix
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is the top one the original JPG (the one with the more saturated colors)?

as usual I love your focal lengths but in this case it is truly exponential!

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Re: New visitor in my garden

very nice!  1/10,000 sec shutter speed, I love it

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OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

is the top one the original JPG (the one with the more saturated colors)?

as usual I love your focal lengths but in this case it is truly exponential!

The "original" is the bland one (first post),

as the picture was taken from behind glass.

Cheers!

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OutsideTheMatrix
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jshen808 wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

is the top one the original JPG (the one with the more saturated colors)?

as usual I love your focal lengths but in this case it is truly exponential!

The "original" is the bland one (first post),

as the picture was taken from behind glass.

Cheers!

Thanks John- I got confused because the bland one says "TIF" in the header above it.  So the picture all the way at the top with the richer greens is the post processed image that came from RAW?

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Re: New visitor in my garden

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

jshen808 wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

is the top one the original JPG (the one with the more saturated colors)?

as usual I love your focal lengths but in this case it is truly exponential!

The "original" is the bland one (first post),

as the picture was taken from behind glass.

Cheers!

Thanks John- I got confused because the bland one says "TIF" in the header above it. So the picture all the way at the top with the richer greens is the post processed image that came from RAW?

No worries!

Yes, it seems the "original" is jpg,

and the "processed" is from raw.

Cheers!

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OutsideTheMatrix
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Re: New visitor in my garden
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jshen808 wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

jshen808 wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

is the top one the original JPG (the one with the more saturated colors)?

as usual I love your focal lengths but in this case it is truly exponential!

The "original" is the bland one (first post),

as the picture was taken from behind glass.

Cheers!

Thanks John- I got confused because the bland one says "TIF" in the header above it. So the picture all the way at the top with the richer greens is the post processed image that came from RAW?

No worries!

Yes, it seems the "original" is jpg,

and the "processed" is from raw.

Cheers!

Yes the one listed with the "exponential" shutter speed must be the processed one

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OP CrisL Contributing Member • Posts: 887
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Sorry for the confusion I thought it was clear enough

the first picture is the final processed from the raw

the copy screen from faststone shows on left in fact the jpg embeded in the raw which is the sooc jpg
and on right the final processed from raw

The light was very low , I shooted through double glazed : ss was 1/125 , F 5, iso 500

FL equivalent 380mm

The difference is typical as soon the ISO is larger 200 . So I always shoot raw only

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Re: New visitor in my garden

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

jshen808 wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

jshen808 wrote:

OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

is the top one the original JPG (the one with the more saturated colors)?

as usual I love your focal lengths but in this case it is truly exponential!

The "original" is the bland one (first post),

as the picture was taken from behind glass.

Cheers!

Thanks John- I got confused because the bland one says "TIF" in the header above it. So the picture all the way at the top with the richer greens is the post processed image that came from RAW?

No worries!

Yes, it seems the "original" is jpg,

and the "processed" is from raw.

Cheers!

Yes the one listed with the "exponential" shutter speed must be the processed one

Lol's, must be!

Cheers!

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Re: New visitor in my garden

CrisL wrote:

Sorry for the confusion I thought it was clear enough

the first picture is the final processed from the raw

the copy screen from faststone shows on left in fact the jpg embeded in the raw which is the sooc jpg
and on right the final processed from raw

The light was very low , I shooted through double glazed : ss was 1/125 , F 5, iso 500

FL equivalent 380mm

The difference is typical as soon the ISO is larger 200 . So I always shoot raw only

Thanks for this updated information!

Cheers!

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Re: New visitor in my garden

CrisL wrote:

Thank you all my friends

Indeed DeepPrime very useful for P950 P1000 raws

Another one with details

Quite beautiful, nice work!

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Re: New visitor in my garden

CrisL wrote:

Sorry for the confusion I thought it was clear enough

the first picture is the final processed from the raw

the copy screen from faststone shows on left in fact the jpg embeded in the raw which is the sooc jpg
and on right the final processed from raw

The light was very low , I shooted through double glazed : ss was 1/125 , F 5, iso 500

FL equivalent 380mm

The difference is typical as soon the ISO is larger 200 . So I always shoot raw only

Thanks, the copy screen has pixellation in it so I see that as a lower resolution image that gets blown up to a larger resolution. Was the JPG really that desaturated?

I know I saw this advice elsewhere too and saw ISO ladder results that indicated color saturation drops severely after ISO 200. With all three cameras.

edit- the first image on top shows much deeper greens than the picture on the right in the bottom "copy"...so they are both processed from RAW?  Maybe the lack of saturation in the greens comes from the program used to generate the copy screen?  I was wondering if you could do something....can you post the sooc JPG directly (without a copy screen) using the upload button AND the image processed from RAW also using the upload button?

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OP CrisL Contributing Member • Posts: 887
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OutsideTheMatrix wrote:

CrisL wrote:

Sorry for the confusion I thought it was clear enough

the first picture is the final processed from the raw

the copy screen from faststone shows on left in fact the jpg embeded in the raw which is the sooc jpg
and on right the final processed from raw

The light was very low , I shooted through double glazed : ss was 1/125 , F 5, iso 500

FL equivalent 380mm

The difference is typical as soon the ISO is larger 200 . So I always shoot raw only

Thanks, the copy screen has pixellation in it so I see that as a lower resolution image that gets blown up to a larger resolution. Was the JPG really that desaturated?

yes the picture is zoom 150% in faststone

I know I saw this advice elsewhere too and saw ISO ladder results that indicated color saturation drops severely after ISO 200. With all three cameras.

edit- the first image on top shows much deeper greens than the picture on the right in the bottom "copy"...so they are both processed from RAW? Maybe the lack of saturation in the greens comes from the program used to generate the copy screen?

yes correct this copyscreen of FasTstone looks always different than my original colors in other pp softwares where i am using adobe color space

I was wondering if you could do something....can you post the sooc JPG directly (without a copy screen) using the upload button AND the image processed from RAW also using the upload button?

yes here a link to the raw

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Azn3cFbDU3dproMQ33y-PABek2wwzD6n/view?usp=sharing

and the jpg embeded in the raw (as stored by faststone ), for me it's the same as sooc jpg ,yes the colors are always desaturated compared to my usual processed files

I never tried to optimise the sooc jpg because i like to play with the RAW and in my experience my result is more pleasant for me

jpg embeded (sooc)

jpg processed from RAW slightly compressed (96%)

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OutsideTheMatrix
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Re: New visitor in my garden

I really like them too!  Is that parrot native to your area?  Are you near a tropical rain forest lol

By the way what is your experience with sooc JPG at ISO 100 and 200, are they much closer to their natural colors and when you process RAW from images taken at those lower ISO are the colors very similar to the sooc JPG as well as the amount of details you see?

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