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NX 16-50mm @50mm Vs NX 50-150mm @50mm

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markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
NX 16-50mm @50mm Vs NX 50-150mm @50mm

Can anyone explain the differences between image quality from these?

Both same focal length at f2.8? Which would be better?

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Re: NX 16-50mm @50mm Vs NX 50-150mm @50mm
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Samsung has MTF charts on their website, though they can take some digging to find. I have reproduced the relevant ones below. These are taken at infinity focus and suggest that the 16-50 would have slightly higher central sharpness but soften further towards the edges, whereas the 50-150 would have more consistent sharpness across the frame. Performance around minimum focus distance is likely rather different, I'm not sure which lens would be favored there.

S 16-50mm MTF, blue line is 30 lps

S 50-150mm MTF

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OP markyboy81 Veteran Member • Posts: 4,778
Re: NX 16-50mm @50mm Vs NX 50-150mm @50mm

shutterbugnx wrote:

Samsung has MTF charts on their website, though they can take some digging to find. I have reproduced the relevant ones below. These are taken at infinity focus and suggest that the 16-50 would have slightly higher central sharpness but soften further towards the edges, whereas the 50-150 would have more consistent sharpness across the frame. Performance around minimum focus distance is likely rather different, I'm not sure which lens would be favored there.

S 16-50mm MTF, blue line is 30 lps

S 50-150mm MTF

Thanks for that Shutterbug!

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HenrykC
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Ephotozine data-

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/samsung-s-16-50mm-f-2-2-8-ed-ois-lens-review-25474

16-50mm below (tested on NX30)

50-150mm below (tested on NX1)

45mm below  (tested on NX20)

Note the tests were done on different cameras so should be compared with care. But the 45mm and 50-150mm at f2.8 look a lot better than the the 16-50mm.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/101689817@N04/

shutterbugnx
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HenrykC wrote:

Ephotozine data-

It appears they test at considerably less than infinity
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/lens-reviews---find-out-how-we-review-lenses-33167

EDIT: Their chart for the 45mm f/1.8 lens is really not indicative of performance across its focus range.

Imaging Resource's testing of the 3D variant shows the corners having a touch of softness when used wide-open with their own test chart. https://www.imaging-resource.com/reviews/zproducts/samsung45f18nx3d/zz_sampleindex.htm

Samsung's MTF chart shows that corners are also slightly soft at infinity. (they list the same chart for both types of the lens)

45mm f/1.8 MTF

Lastly, my (non-3D) copy is noticeably soft when used near minimum focus distance. I have provided central crops using the lens with an NX500. Final image is with Samsung's 30mm f/2 lens for comparison.

45mm f/1.8 @ f/1.8

45mm f/1.8 @ f/2.8

45mm f/1.8 @ f/4

30mm f/2 @ f/2

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Re: NX 16-50mm @50mm Vs NX 50-150mm @50mm

markyboy81 wrote:

Can anyone explain the differences between image quality from these?

Both same focal length at f2.8? Which would be better?

The 50-150mm @ 50mm f2.8 will have better image quality

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Bixbe Junior Member • Posts: 49
Re: NX 16-50mm @50mm Vs NX 50-150mm @50mm

Both S lenses are in action here. Gamma DR and P mode which results in depth of field necessary for street filming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDPlKJZC6k

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