Chrisopher Frost: RF 50mmf1.8 STM review

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RDM5546
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Chrisopher Frost: RF 50mmf1.8 STM review
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA0AmJCrMLU  He says it may be a little sharper and a little more constrast than older EF 50mmf1.8 "Nifty Fifty".    He also says he will be finishing a side the side comparison with the older 50MM lens soon.

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Basically no improvement from the EF version for twice the money. Thanks Canon

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JustUs7 Senior Member • Posts: 3,537
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sportyaccordy wrote:

Basically no improvement from the EF version for twice the money. Thanks Canon

CONTROL RING!!!😁

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tkbslc Forum Pro • Posts: 17,299
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I've only had the RF for a couple days, but in all honestly it seems like the EF STM in RF mount.  Haven't set up any test charts to pixel peep corners, but it's not like night and day different.

The reason I am happy with it is that it is so tiny and has the control ring.  The lens barely extends past the grip!   It's about half the size of the EF on the adapter.

Otaraka Regular Member • Posts: 180
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sportyaccordy wrote:

Basically no improvement from the EF version for twice the money. Thanks Canon

Its a new redesigned lens versus one thats been manufactured for years.

Having the choice via adapters is great, being able to bang on your old 50mm vs the convenience and a few upgrades with a native .

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Re: Chrisopher Frost: RF 50mmf1.8 STM review
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tkbslc wrote:

I've only had the RF for a couple days, but in all honestly it seems like the EF STM in RF mount. Haven't set up any test charts to pixel peep corners, but it's not like night and day different.

The reason I am happy with it is that it is so tiny and has the control ring. The lens barely extends past the grip! It's about half the size of the EF on the adapter.

It is not night and day different.  I did not expect it to be.   I have the old  EF II model.

It is smaller and takes less bag space and it light weight.  It is idea for travel.

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Jx9 Regular Member • Posts: 250
Re: Chrisopher Frost: RF 50mmf1.8 STM review
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Here a comparison with the EF lens. Seems like it's much better.

https://youtu.be/xIgBpk9cUmw

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JPAlbert Senior Member • Posts: 1,186
Re: Chrisopher Frost: RF 50mmf1.8 STM review

I paid $89 for my EF 50mm 1.8 from the Canon online refurbished store.

Works well enough on both my 77d and R.

Don't see any reason to buy the RF version...

MikeJ9116 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,260
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Jx9 wrote:

Here a comparison with the EF lens. Seems like it's much better.

https://youtu.be/xIgBpk9cUmw

I would agree the corners are sharper with the RF lens but not "way better" as he claims. Other than this, I don't see much daylight between the two lenses. Specifically, not over $100 worth of daylight. Plus, I would much rather have the AF/MF switch on the EF lens than the AF/Control switch on the RF lens.

Regardless of what I think, Canon will sell this lens like hotcakes at an IHOP.

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MikeJ9116 wrote:

Jx9 wrote:

Here a comparison with the EF lens. Seems like it's much better.

https://youtu.be/xIgBpk9cUmw

I would agree the corners are sharper with the RF lens but not "way better" as he claims. Other than this, I don't see much daylight between the two lenses. Specifically, not over $100 worth of daylight. Plus, I would much rather have the AF/MF switch on the EF lens than the AF/Control switch on the RF lens.

Regardless of what I think, Canon will sell this lens like hotcakes at an IHOP.

Agree on the performance.

The size difference (vs adapter) is so worth $100 to me. It turns your camera into a whole different class size. With the Rp it feels like I'm shooting m4/3 with a small prime lens again. It makes the 35mm f1.8 feel huge.

If they make a 28mm f2 or 2.8 that is the same size as the 50mm 1.8, I'll sell my 35mm f1.8 and grab that in a heartbeat.

MikeJ9116 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,260
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tkbslc wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Jx9 wrote:

Here a comparison with the EF lens. Seems like it's much better.

https://youtu.be/xIgBpk9cUmw

I would agree the corners are sharper with the RF lens but not "way better" as he claims. Other than this, I don't see much daylight between the two lenses. Specifically, not over $100 worth of daylight. Plus, I would much rather have the AF/MF switch on the EF lens than the AF/Control switch on the RF lens.

Regardless of what I think, Canon will sell this lens like hotcakes at an IHOP.

Agree on the performance.

The size difference (vs adapter) is so worth $100 to me. It turns your camera into a whole different class size. With the Rp it feels like I'm shooting m4/3 with a small prime lens again. It makes the 35mm f1.8 feel huge.

I am not that picky over an inch extra length and four ounces added to a lens that is already very small and lightweight. Especially on a body the size/weight of the R/R5/R6. I can see where RF lens might be worth the added cost of replacing the EF lens on a camera like the RP.

tkbslc Forum Pro • Posts: 17,299
Re: Chrisopher Frost: RF 50mmf1.8 STM review
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MikeJ9116 wrote:

tkbslc wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Jx9 wrote:

Here a comparison with the EF lens. Seems like it's much better.

https://youtu.be/xIgBpk9cUmw

I would agree the corners are sharper with the RF lens but not "way better" as he claims. Other than this, I don't see much daylight between the two lenses. Specifically, not over $100 worth of daylight. Plus, I would much rather have the AF/MF switch on the EF lens than the AF/Control switch on the RF lens.

Regardless of what I think, Canon will sell this lens like hotcakes at an IHOP.

Agree on the performance.

The size difference (vs adapter) is so worth $100 to me. It turns your camera into a whole different class size. With the Rp it feels like I'm shooting m4/3 with a small prime lens again. It makes the 35mm f1.8 feel huge.

I am not that picky over an inch extra length and four ounces added to a lens that is already very small and lightweight. Especially on a body the size/weight of the R/R5/R6. I can see where RF lens might be worth the added cost of replacing the EF lens on a camera like the RP.

I mean we can have this same argument for just about every RF vs EF lens in the lineup, I guess.   Most EF lenses are pretty good and adapt just fine.  Many will not see the need to switch to RF native mount.

Jx9 Regular Member • Posts: 250
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Does anyone know if there's noise when recording video like there is on the EF version? He usually does that test but didn't here.

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MikeJ9116 Veteran Member • Posts: 6,260
Re: Chrisopher Frost: RF 50mmf1.8 STM review
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tkbslc wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

tkbslc wrote:

MikeJ9116 wrote:

Jx9 wrote:

Here a comparison with the EF lens. Seems like it's much better.

https://youtu.be/xIgBpk9cUmw

I would agree the corners are sharper with the RF lens but not "way better" as he claims. Other than this, I don't see much daylight between the two lenses. Specifically, not over $100 worth of daylight. Plus, I would much rather have the AF/MF switch on the EF lens than the AF/Control switch on the RF lens.

Regardless of what I think, Canon will sell this lens like hotcakes at an IHOP.

Agree on the performance.

The size difference (vs adapter) is so worth $100 to me. It turns your camera into a whole different class size. With the Rp it feels like I'm shooting m4/3 with a small prime lens again. It makes the 35mm f1.8 feel huge.

I am not that picky over an inch extra length and four ounces added to a lens that is already very small and lightweight. Especially on a body the size/weight of the R/R5/R6. I can see where RF lens might be worth the added cost of replacing the EF lens on a camera like the RP.

I mean we can have this same argument for just about every RF vs EF lens in the lineup, I guess. Most EF lenses are pretty good and adapt just fine. Many will not see the need to switch to RF native mount.

If I didn't have three other EF 50mm lenses I would buy the RF versions.

Dan-Z Regular Member • Posts: 213
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Jx9 wrote:

Does anyone know if there's noise when recording video like there is on the EF version? He usually does that test but didn't here.

Well he does show that the lens is noisy, right here @ 4:04 ... https://youtu.be/pA0AmJCrMLU?t=244

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sportyaccordy wrote:

Basically no improvement from the EF version for twice the money. Thanks Canon

it's not true, I've both (I just sold the EF) with R6, RF is much better on the border, the corner are better too (but not very good at F1.8), it's slightly sharper in center, autofocus is faster, and construction is better (same 35/85 RF)

And of course it's much smaller without adapter and you have the control ring, EF version is 1990 lens design, 200$ remain a low-price, you can't expect 600$ lens performance...

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Jx9 Regular Member • Posts: 250
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Dan-Z wrote:

Jx9 wrote:

Does anyone know if there's noise when recording video like there is on the EF version? He usually does that test but didn't here.

Well he does show that the lens is noisy, right here @ 4:04 ... https://youtu.be/pA0AmJCrMLU?t=244

So are the RF 35mm and 85mm in photo mode.

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What I have learned in the few days of owning this lens: I need to get a lens hood soon...

It is just the next iteration of Canon 50/1.8 lenses... nothing more, nothing less. There are gradual improvements in many, but not all, of its attributes, and as the lowest-priced RF autofocus lens, it will sell well enough.

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nutraman Forum Member • Posts: 63
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tkbslc wrote:

I've only had the RF for a couple days, but in all honestly it seems like the EF STM in RF mount. Haven't set up any test charts to pixel peep corners, but it's not like night and day different.

The reason I am happy with it is that it is so tiny and has the control ring. The lens barely extends past the grip! It's about half the size of the EF on the adapter.

I agree. It is the EF 1.8 in a modern mount. The AF is loud and rough but less so than the old 1.8. The AF is not quick and smooth like the RF 24-240. I think for the size and native RF mount and improvement in sharpness this price is worth it. Here's are some images from the RF 50 1.8 and RP SooC jpg and then run through Perfectly Clear, saved and uploaded here. Full Size. No RAW development, could be sharper if I did.

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nutraman Forum Member • Posts: 63
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nutraman wrote:

tkbslc wrote:

I've only had the RF for a couple days, but in all honestly it seems like the EF STM in RF mount. Haven't set up any test charts to pixel peep corners, but it's not like night and day different.

The reason I am happy with it is that it is so tiny and has the control ring. The lens barely extends past the grip! It's about half the size of the EF on the adapter.

I agree. It is the EF 1.8 in a modern mount. The AF is loud and rough but less so than the old 1.8. The AF is not quick and smooth like the RF 24-240. I think for the size and native RF mount and improvement in sharpness this price is worth it. Here's are some images from the RF 50 1.8 and RP SooC jpg and then run through Perfectly Clear, saved and uploaded here. Full Size. No RAW development, could be sharper if I did.

For Pixel Peeping, here's the same two shots after developing in ACR with some sharpening++. (FYI they looked sharper on my computer, there's some compression here)

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