Just got my r5, LOVE IT. Bought it for general purpose, may end up being my wildlife camera as well.

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AccipiterQ
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Just got my r5, LOVE IT. Bought it for general purpose, may end up being my wildlife camera as well.
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I got the camera more for non-wildlife photos, but after some test shots in my yard I'm not so sure if this isn't also a potential replacement for my 7Dii. Cropping down the larger R5 photos means that the subject is almost the same size in the final photo as it would be in the 7Dii (if you get what I'm saying. Obviously the full-frame IQ difference is there as well. Plus the ISO noise improvement is amazing; I have shots at 12800 that are more than usable. The animal-eye focus works great too, and lets you easily compose how you want, while keeping the eye as the focus point. I'll definitely be taking this out for a test in the field in the next few days, I want to see how good the reach is on smaller more distant subjects.

1/1000 f5.0 ISO800 R5&600 F4.0Liii

Here's a high ISO shot, I love how smooth and even the noise is even at 12800

1/1000 f6.3 ISO12800 R5&600 F4.0Liii

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Morvegil
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Yeah, its a good replacement.  The R5 does everything well.

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congrats on your new R5! for me, the eye-focus and somewhat IBIS are the only advantage R5 has over 5DsR, IMO--although IS is not a deal-breaker feature to me!

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johncal Regular Member • Posts: 422
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Why wouldn't it be your new go to. It's an awesome machine!

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Colin Smith1 Senior Member • Posts: 1,101
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I am a wildlife and landscape guy.  I just sold off my Sony's for R5's.  They pretty much do everything the Sony's did, but just a little better1  Enjoy!

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xtam667 Forum Member • Posts: 92
Suggest you get a grip on the R5
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No pun intended It handles so much better with long lenses. I bought one right after my first birding trip with the R5 and 500/4.

nutraman Forum Member • Posts: 63
Re: Just got my r5, LOVE IT. Bought it for general purpose,

AccipiterQ wrote:

Here's a high ISO shot, I love how smooth and even the noise is even at 12800

1/1000 f6.3 ISO12800 R5&600 F4.0Liii

Thanks for sharing! Canon is crushing it! Out of curiosity I ran your image through Perfectly Clear and in 5 seconds it automatically made these changes to this photos. Sometimes the results are better than other times.

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KiloHotelphoto Regular Member • Posts: 475
Just got my r5, LOVE IT. Bought it for general purpose, may end up being my wildlife camera as well.

After six weeks with the R5 I sold my 1DX2 and 5dsr and bought a R6. I shoot 99% wildlife and the animal eye af and tracking are great. I’m still having problems with the R5 getting initial focus when I go from close to far or far to close, it just can’t do it and I have to get it close manually then it works. I haven’t shot the R6 enough to see if it has the same problem.

I’ll miss the build, battery and initial focus capabilities of the 1DX2 but I won’t miss the freight train noise shutter, mirror slap it made. I scared off wildlife many times with it and it was annoying.

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Re: Suggest you get a grip on the R5

xtam667 wrote:

No pun intended It handles so much better with long lenses. I bought one right after my first birding trip with the R5 and 500/4.

It's funny you mention that, I was hand holding it for an extended period with the 24-70 2.8 last night and thought "I could really use a grip on this" then I realized if I end up using this for wildlife I'll be handholding a lens that weighs 4x the 24-70.  Ordered a grip immediately.

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AccipiterQ
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Re: Just got my r5, LOVE IT. Bought it for general purpose,

nutraman wrote:

AccipiterQ wrote:

Here's a high ISO shot, I love how smooth and even the noise is even at 12800

1/1000 f6.3 ISO12800 R5&600 F4.0Liii

Thanks for sharing! Canon is crushing it! Out of curiosity I ran your image through Perfectly Clear and in 5 seconds it automatically made these changes to this photos. Sometimes the results are better than other times.

Thank you, I've never used Perfectly Clear before

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AccipiterQ
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Just got my r5, LOVE IT. Bought it for general purpose, may end up being my wildlife camera as well.

KiloHotelphoto wrote:

After six weeks with the R5 I sold my 1DX2 and 5dsr and bought a R6. I shoot 99% wildlife and the animal eye af and tracking are great. I’m still having problems with the R5 getting initial focus when I go from close to far or far to close, it just can’t do it and I have to get it close manually then it works. I haven’t shot the R6 enough to see if it has the same problem.

I’ll miss the build, battery and initial focus capabilities of the 1DX2 but I won’t miss the freight train noise shutter, mirror slap it made. I scared off wildlife many times with it and it was annoying.

The lack of mirror slap is one of the things I noticed as well, I didn't think the difference would be that note-worthy, but I can't imagine going back now. When you say you have trouble with initial focus do you mean with the eye-focus, or just in general?

If it's eye-focus this video has a good way to fix, from 9:30-14:30.  Basically you custom set one of the back buttons to be a regular focus point, then your regular back-button focus button is set to animal-eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nnRqgXu7QI

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KiloHotelphoto Regular Member • Posts: 475
R5 doesn’t focus

No not eye focus just regular focus, it just won’t focus I just get the red box. I was out for three hours this morning and it happened a handful of times.

If I’m focused at something close then want to focus on something far away it’s completely blurry in the EVF it can’t focus, I have to turn the focus ring to get it close then it will focus.

And the other way also, if I’m focused on something far then want to shoot something close same thing happens. 
Im going to try and contact Canon about this because it’s a big problem.

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Tazz93
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KiloHotelphoto wrote:

No not eye focus just regular focus, it just won’t focus I just get the red box. I was out for three hours this morning and it happened a handful of times.

If I’m focused at something close then want to focus on something far away it’s completely blurry in the EVF it can’t focus, I have to turn the focus ring to get it close then it will focus.

And the other way also, if I’m focused on something far then want to shoot something close same thing happens.
Im going to try and contact Canon about this because it’s a big problem.

I think what you are referring to is more of a mirrorless trait than an issue with the R5/R6. They don't like to go from sharp to wildly de-focused areas, as well the R5 seems to dislike prioritizing some things like water. I find when I try to pre-focus in slightly wavy or choppy water, it just hunts or gives that red box.

I believe both have something to do with the way it and most mirrorless cameras imitate the DSLR phase detect array. Most imitate it by using pixels on the same horizontal plane (similar to a horizontal sensor array). This unfortunately, was one of the worst sensor arrays on the DSLR. Canon looks to be experimenting with simulating a cross array which was one of the DSLR's best array choices. Hopefully there's some head room in the R5/R6 to assimilate it over, but if not.. I really can't complain. Its still, hands down, the best focusing camera I've had.

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KiloHotelphoto Regular Member • Posts: 475
Re: R5 doesn’t focus

Went out with the R6 this afternoon on the 600 and didn't have any problems at all.

Going to have to take them both out this weekend and try them back to back.

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nutraman Forum Member • Posts: 63
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AccipiterQ wrote:

Thank you, I've never used Perfectly Clear before

No Problem! I just got it and still trying out the settings and presets. I ran your lovely bird image through the AUTO and OUTDOORS preset and in 10 seconds got these results:

ORIGINAL

Perfectly Clear AUTO SETTING

Perfectly Clear OUTDOOR SETTING

Not necessarily better or worse, just different. The software has improved some of of my images in unexpected ways. The above outdoor setting is a over done but I'd bet some people might like it.

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Steve W Veteran Member • Posts: 5,262
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Colin Smith1 wrote:

I am a wildlife and landscape guy. I just sold off my Sony's for R5's. They pretty much do everything the Sony's did, but just a little better1 Enjoy!

So what do you think is better and what Sony are you comparing it to. I shot Canon for 25 years with until my recent EOS R and EOS R5 the last Canon was 5D Mark IV.  Have been shooting Sony as well for the last six years so now that I am comparing my new EOS R5 to Sony I am wondering what is really better. Only had the R5 for a week. So I am trying to figure out the real differences and interested in what others think.

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Tazz93
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Steve W wrote:

Colin Smith1 wrote:

I am a wildlife and landscape guy. I just sold off my Sony's for R5's. They pretty much do everything the Sony's did, but just a little better1 Enjoy!

So what do you think is better and what Sony are you comparing it to. I shot Canon for 25 years with until my recent EOS R and EOS R5 the last Canon was 5D Mark IV. Have been shooting Sony as well for the last six years so now that I am comparing my new EOS R5 to Sony I am wondering what is really better. Only had the R5 for a week. So I am trying to figure out the real differences and interested in what others think.

When compared to the A9, I think the improvements are noticeable for wildlife shooters. First and foremost is obviously the resolution. The eye AF is significantly better (but not perfect). I do think the A9 was a little more consistent in overall AF performance, but that's a thin margin... but noticeable. The ergos are mixed, IMO. Somethings are better on the A9, but most are better on the R5. The mechanical shutter on the A9 is anemic compared to the R5 (this is not an issue on the A9 II).

I could go on an on, but more than anything, the improvements have to be taken in context. Your specific use case plays a massive part in your perception. Someone who shoots portraits will completely look past the strengths of this camera and feel like its not a big deal. Even though they know the specs are better. But more than anything, the ability to combine two cameras in to one, is extremely liberating. Even though I wasn't shooting Sonys, the need to decide between speed and resolution was debilitating (if owning and choosing between two similar cameras can be considered an issue). I always found I wanted the other at some point during the outing. The R5 removes that issue, or equally, removes the need to buy a second specialist body. It is truly a Jack of all trades, and very oddly... it IS a master of some of those as well.

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Steve W Veteran Member • Posts: 5,262
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Tazz93 wrote:

Steve W wrote:

Colin Smith1 wrote:

I am a wildlife and landscape guy. I just sold off my Sony's for R5's. They pretty much do everything the Sony's did, but just a little better1 Enjoy!

So what do you think is better and what Sony are you comparing it to. I shot Canon for 25 years with until my recent EOS R and EOS R5 the last Canon was 5D Mark IV. Have been shooting Sony as well for the last six years so now that I am comparing my new EOS R5 to Sony I am wondering what is really better. Only had the R5 for a week. So I am trying to figure out the real differences and interested in what others think.

When compared to the A9, I think the improvements are noticeable for wildlife shooters. First and foremost is obviously the resolution. The eye AF is significantly better (but not perfect). I do think the A9 was a little more consistent in overall AF performance, but that's a thin margin... but noticeable. The ergos are mixed, IMO. Somethings are better on the A9, but most are better on the R5. The mechanical shutter on the A9 is anemic compared to the R5 (this is not an issue on the A9 II).

I could go on an on, but more than anything, the improvements have to be taken in context. Your specific use case plays a massive part in your perception. Someone who shoots portraits will completely look past the strengths of this camera and feel like its not a big deal. Even though they know the specs are better. But more than anything, the ability to combine two cameras in to one, is extremely liberating. Even though I wasn't shooting Sonys, the need to decide between speed and resolution was debilitating (if owning and choosing between two similar cameras can be considered an issue). I always found I wanted the other at some point during the outing. The R5 removes that issue, or equally, removes the need to buy a second specialist body. It is truly a Jack of all trades, and very oddly... it IS a master of some of those as well.

Agree with some points for sure. For Sony after selling my older a7RIII this past week I still have the A7RIV and the original A9. So as I start my comparison I will have to figure out if I really want a "tweaner", i.e a camera between the A9 and A7RIV, more specialized body like the A9 II to go along with the A7RIV. Who know what the new A9III or A9s (not sure what it will be called).

Lenses do factor in some what but the key deciding what I would switch up. Not sure if the RF 100-500 is the right replacement for my FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM and FE 200-600/5.6-6.3 G. The Canon EF 100-400 was very nice (used to own it) but when I compared it on the 5D Mark IV to the Sony FE 100-400 on the A7RIII (without AA filter) that combo was better. Now I wonder how well the EF 100-400 performs on the R5. Also wonder how good the 100-500 is. May just have to try and rent it since I am not convinced I want to go out and try to find one to evaluate locally.

Ergo wise I admit for me the flip out screen is less than ideal especially working with an L bracket- On a Tripod in portrait mode the flip-out screen has no use IMHO. The touch functionality is nice though but for me not a must have. The newest A7RIV/A9II bodies are very nice IMHO.

Well we will see. Knowing me I will want to keep a foot in both camps.

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Re: Just got my r5, LOVE I

Steve W wrote:

Tazz93 wrote:

Steve W wrote:

Colin Smith1 wrote:

I am a wildlife and landscape guy. I just sold off my Sony's for R5's. They pretty much do everything the Sony's did, but just a little better1 Enjoy!

So what do you think is better and what Sony are you comparing it to. I shot Canon for 25 years with until my recent EOS R and EOS R5 the last Canon was 5D Mark IV. Have been shooting Sony as well for the last six years so now that I am comparing my new EOS R5 to Sony I am wondering what is really better. Only had the R5 for a week. So I am trying to figure out the real differences and interested in what others think.

When compared to the A9, I think the improvements are noticeable for wildlife shooters. First and foremost is obviously the resolution. The eye AF is significantly better (but not perfect). I do think the A9 was a little more consistent in overall AF performance, but that's a thin margin... but noticeable. The ergos are mixed, IMO. Somethings are better on the A9, but most are better on the R5. The mechanical shutter on the A9 is anemic compared to the R5 (this is not an issue on the A9 II).

I could go on an on, but more than anything, the improvements have to be taken in context. Your specific use case plays a massive part in your perception. Someone who shoots portraits will completely look past the strengths of this camera and feel like its not a big deal. Even though they know the specs are better. But more than anything, the ability to combine two cameras in to one, is extremely liberating. Even though I wasn't shooting Sonys, the need to decide between speed and resolution was debilitating (if owning and choosing between two similar cameras can be considered an issue). I always found I wanted the other at some point during the outing. The R5 removes that issue, or equally, removes the need to buy a second specialist body. It is truly a Jack of all trades, and very oddly... it IS a master of some of those as well.

Agree with some points for sure. For Sony after selling my older a7RIII this past week I still have the A7RIV and the original A9. So as I start my comparison I will have to figure out if I really want a "tweaner", i.e a camera between the A9 and A7RIV, more specialized body like the A9 II to go along with the A7RIV. Who know what the new A9III or A9s (not sure what it will be called).

Lenses do factor in some what but the key deciding what I would switch up. Not sure if the RF 100-500 is the right replacement for my FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM and FE 200-600/5.6-6.3 G. The Canon EF 100-400 was very nice (used to own it) but when I compared it on the 5D Mark IV to the Sony FE 100-400 on the A7RIII (without AA filter) that combo was better. Now I wonder how well the EF 100-400 performs on the R5. Also wonder how good the 100-500 is. May just have to try and rent it since I am not convinced I want to go out and try to find one to evaluate locally.

Ergo wise I admit for me the flip out screen is less than ideal especially working with an L bracket- On a Tripod in portrait mode the flip-out screen has no use IMHO. The touch functionality is nice though but for me not a must have. The newest A7RIV/A9II bodies are very nice IMHO.

Well we will see. Knowing me I will want to keep a foot in both camps.

I whole heartedly believe the A9 III/s will be the camera to have if the resolution is in the same neighborhood as the R5, but I'm ok with that. The R5 was punching above its weight class in that fight. The only thing is, I feel like it will be in its own class for a while to come, as the R1 picks up the mantle and goes head to head with the A9. Unfortunately, there's no way Canon gets in that resolution battle on the flagship model, so the A9 III/s is destine to have an advantage for wildlife shooters.

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