Z 6II does birds

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1llusive
1llusive Veteran Member • Posts: 3,313
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This guy walks out there with a DX 50-250 lens and just nails it.

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Mikspin
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Impressive and with the dx 50-250 lens at 10 mpx no less. I think the birders should shut up and learn this new camera AF system ( hint, it's not like a D500), before they pontificate on the superiority of their pet oldie. It is not my old Z6 either. Stop lauding your old AF systems and embrace the new. The Z 6ii autofocus is better than anything out there. But it is different, practice. Mine came yesterday, I was up to three in the morning setting it up. Looking forward to the new learning curve. what little I have seen has convinced me not to look back. It is time to stop the "vs" bull and on with the new. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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Tim S Contributing Member • Posts: 840
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When will someone test it on serious glass, like a 500mm F/4E?

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Chris Mak Senior Member • Posts: 2,520
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Tim S wrote:

When will someone test it on serious glass, like a 500mm F/4E?

Beautiful shot of the lovely Pintail!

The Z400mm f2.8 and the Z600mm f4 are supposed to arrive before the end of 2021. I currently use the D500+500PF, but also have the Z7, and looking to upgrade to a 600mm f4 lens, I am eagerly awaiting Nikon's go at a modern 600mm f4 lens. I hope they will keep it (very) close to 3kg, which is my limit for handheld shooting and hiking. My alternative would be the Sony 600mmf4GM, but then I would have to go dual system, which in the light of the price of a 600mm f4 lens, is not very desireable.

If the Nikon Z600mm f4 is as good as the Sony 600GM, also performance with the TC's, I will go for the Nikon and give myself some time to upgrade the Z7 at a later stage.

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michaeladawson Forum Pro • Posts: 14,890
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Mikspin wrote:

Impressive and with the dx 50-250 lens at 10 mpx no less. I think the birders should shut up and learn this new camera AF system ( hint, it's not like a D500), before they pontificate on the superiority of their pet oldie. It is not my old Z6 either. Stop lauding your old AF systems and embrace the new. The Z 6ii autofocus is better than anything out there. But it is different, practice. Mine came yesterday, I was up to three in the morning setting it up. Looking forward to the new learning curve. what little I have seen has convinced me not to look back. It is time to stop the "vs" bull and on with the new. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

And over the top statements are as bad as the pontificators.  Better than anything out there?  Hardly believable, even with qualifiers.

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abc123brian Regular Member • Posts: 249
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Mikspin wrote:

Impressive and with the dx 50-250 lens at 10 mpx no less. I think the birders should shut up and learn this new camera AF system ( hint, it's not like a D500), before they pontificate on the superiority of their pet oldie. It is not my old Z6 either. Stop lauding your old AF systems and embrace the new. The Z 6ii autofocus is better than anything out there. But it is different, practice. Mine came yesterday, I was up to three in the morning setting it up. Looking forward to the new learning curve. what little I have seen has convinced me not to look back. It is time to stop the "vs" bull and on with the new. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

I don’t think you can honestly say it is the best out there, but I think it is better than a lot of people give it credit for. I have the first gen Z6 and Z7 and have a Z7ii preordered. The AF has come a long way with the firmware updates and I find it very usable for most things. There are some other issues for BIF with the current Z cameras, but that isn’t something I shoot often. IMO, we need to really need to see improved tracking mode functionality and get the native Z super telephoto lenses. It would be better if tracking was its own AF option and not part of auto area af to start and improving the algorithms would go a long way. I hope the ii version is noticeably improved with eye AF. It is actually a feature I appreciate more than I thought.

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Tim S Contributing Member • Posts: 840
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I keep seeing tests with the 70-200mm F/2.8 S which has two motors, it performs very well but I'm getting the impression that the G/E lenses will not be as hot on the Z6 11 even ones like 500mm F/4E hence no ambassador out there giving it a go.

All new 600mm f/4's will be 12K+ that's my bet.

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creative edge
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I am not much into avian photography, but I do shoot Pro Motocross. I started using the Z6II with the 400 2.8E and can say focus is spot on.. it is fast, locks on great and I have no problems shooting guys coming head on to me at crazy fast speeds

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Chris Mak Senior Member • Posts: 2,520
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Tim S wrote:

All new 600mm f/4's will be 12K+ that's my bet.

Yes, still, better to spend that money once, than forever changing lenses/switching systems looking to upgrade purchases made with budget in mind...

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Geomaticsman Senior Member • Posts: 2,934
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Tim S wrote:

All new 600mm f/4's will be 12K+ that's my bet.

Higher than that.

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Tim S Contributing Member • Posts: 840
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Great news, how many fps do you use? There was some confusion with the 14fps reported.

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Tim S Contributing Member • Posts: 840
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What Creative edge is saying is great news because that means we may have a cheap D5/D6 available with functioning silent shooting for wildlife shooters. Thing is why haven't we seen it yet? Where are the testers?

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rick in vegas Regular Member • Posts: 458
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that is like 9MP only in DX mode

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1llusive
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abc123brian wrote:

It would be better if tracking was its own AF option and not part of auto area af to start

Maybe. For many, the default shooting mode has become Auto-Area with face/eye for people subjects, and for non-people, just hit your programmed Fn button to bring up the tracking box. That covers most situations without leaving AF-C.

Of course this is general shooting, not birds, which would use different settings.

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abc123brian Regular Member • Posts: 249
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1llusive wrote:

abc123brian wrote:

It would be better if tracking was its own AF option and not part of auto area af to start

Maybe. For many, the default shooting mode has become Auto-Area with face/eye for people subjects, and for non-people, just hit your programmed Fn button to bring up the tracking box. That covers most situations without leaving AF-C.

Of course this is general shooting, not birds, which would use different settings.

If I hand my camera to someone else, non photographer, to have them take a photo of me, I put it in auto area for them so it finds the face and focuses. Almost every time they hit the ok button by mistake putting the camera in tracking mode. 🤷‍♂️
I primarily shoot landscape and wildlife so those aren’t my default modes. Maybe once I get my Z7ii I’ll change to trusting the tracking mode more.

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1llusive
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abc123brian wrote:

I primarily shoot landscape and wildlife so those aren’t my default modes. Maybe once I get my Z7ii I’ll change to trusting the tracking mode more.

Of course landscape uses very different settings. You can switch between general shooting and landscapes in 1 second with User settings.

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Luftwalk Regular Member • Posts: 214
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Tim S wrote:

What Creative edge is saying is great news because that means we may have a cheap D5/D6 available with functioning silent shooting for wildlife shooters. Thing is why haven't we seen it yet? Where are the testers?

I've actually had good results with the original Z6 and dog tracking. I used different modes in AF-C, but mainly use Wide-S. Auto Area with subject tracking works pretty well if the light is good and not too much clutter around the subject.

Examples here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/luftwalk/albums/72157706365176231

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PkmX Forum Member • Posts: 53
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Luftwalk wrote:

Tim S wrote:

What Creative edge is saying is great news because that means we may have a cheap D5/D6 available with functioning silent shooting for wildlife shooters. Thing is why haven't we seen it yet? Where are the testers?

I've actually had good results with the original Z6 and dog tracking. I used different modes in AF-C, but mainly use Wide-S. Auto Area with subject tracking works pretty well if the light is good and not too much clutter around the subject.

Examples here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/luftwalk/albums/72157706365176231

The hit rate is pretty impressive! Do you have experiences with how well the animal eye AF work against dogs running toward the camera at full speed? I'm seriously considering getting the Z6II for dog action photography, and I assume the AF should be generally faster on the II and being able to restrict animal eye AF to wide modes should help the camera to not get distracted by other things in the frame.

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Tim S Contributing Member • Posts: 840
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Wow, really enjoyed your doggy photos very inspiring. Need to get a dog in my camera bag now.

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Gurman
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Wow!

Great images of your buddy doggy!

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