100-400 S lens with TC 1.4 or 2.0 working on Z6?

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100-400 S lens with TC 1.4 or 2.0 working on Z6?
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In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

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Re: 100-400 S lens with TC 1.4 or 2.0 working on Z6?
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I have the 200-500/5.6 Nikkor and use it with the TC14-III with my Z7. I’m sure the Z 100-400 and 1.4 will be fine.

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Re: 100-400 S lens with TC 1.4 or 2.0 working on Z6?
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z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

TC's are designed for telephoto lenses such as primes and high quality zooms.  So far the TC's work fantastic with the 70-200 S and hopefully with the upcoming 100-400 as well.  Focusing speed could be slightly slower at the f6.3 end.

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msu79gt82 Senior Member • Posts: 1,296
Re: 100-400 S lens with TC 1.4 or 2.0 working on Z6?
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z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

I am definitely interested in the 100-400 S, especially if it's a 5.6 on the long end. Its silhouette is more in line with the size of a lens I'd want; the 200-600 appears to be too large for my liking.  I reserve the right the change my mind post release. 

Hence, I could be interested in the Z TC 2.0x so hopefully it'll work just fine. At the moment I have very little interest in the Z TC-1.4x, I'll just use the Z50.

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Digital Shutterbug Veteran Member • Posts: 5,190
Re: 100-400 S lens with TC 1.4 or 2.0 working on Z6?
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z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

Obviously, this is a thread with not much more than speculation since Nikon is holding facts tightly. Given that, I can't imagine the 100-400 S model lens being anything slower than f/5.6 on the long end. I reach that conclusion based on the F mount 200-500mm being f/5.6 from end to end. Like PLShutterbug, I use that lens, along with the TC 1.4, for completely satisfactory results on my Z7.

My only complaint about the 200-500 is the size and weight, especially coupled with the FTZ on the Z7. It's hand-holdable in good light for short durations. I'm hoping the Z lens 100-400 will be smaller and lighter. With current lenses being so good, I think the 100-400 will be on the same plane. After all, it is an S Line lens. That would make me inclined to replace my 200-500 with the 100-400.

I don't want to sacrifice the extra 100mm on the long end, but the Z model teleconverters are proving to be exceptional. Assuming the 100-400, combined with the 2X tele, gives the image quality I think it might, I'll be all in. Nikon, please don't spoil that with a price tag longer than the lens.

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Re: 100-400 S lens with TC 1.4 or 2.0 working on Z6?

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

Obviously, this is a thread with not much more than speculation since Nikon is holding facts tightly. Given that, I can't imagine the 100-400 S model lens being anything slower than f/5.6 on the long end. I reach that conclusion based on the F mount 200-500mm being f/5.6 from end to end. Like PLShutterbug, I use that lens, along with the TC 1.4, for completely satisfactory results on my Z7.

My only complaint about the 200-500 is the size and weight, especially coupled with the FTZ on the Z7. It's hand-holdable in good light for short durations. I'm hoping the Z lens 100-400 will be smaller and lighter.

Problem with asking for smaller and lighter is smaller apertures. But if I had to guess...

100-400 4.5-5.6

x1.4 = 140-560 6.3-7.8 (might officially be f/8)

vs

200-600 4.5-6.3

The 200-600 will certainly offer a larger aperture if you're willing to lug the beast around. Tripod recommended for that one.

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Digital Shutterbug Veteran Member • Posts: 5,190
Re: 100-400 S lens with TC 1.4 or 2.0 working on Z6?

1llusive wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

Obviously, this is a thread with not much more than speculation since Nikon is holding facts tightly. Given that, I can't imagine the 100-400 S model lens being anything slower than f/5.6 on the long end. I reach that conclusion based on the F mount 200-500mm being f/5.6 from end to end. Like PLShutterbug, I use that lens, along with the TC 1.4, for completely satisfactory results on my Z7.

My only complaint about the 200-500 is the size and weight, especially coupled with the FTZ on the Z7. It's hand-holdable in good light for short durations. I'm hoping the Z lens 100-400 will be smaller and lighter.

Problem with asking for smaller and lighter is smaller apertures. But if I had to guess...

100-400 4.5-5.6

x1.4 = 140-560 6.3-7.8 (might officially be f/8)

vs

200-600 4.5-6.3

The 200-600 will certainly offer a larger aperture if you're willing to lug the beast around. Tripod recommended for that one.

But the Z lens is only a 100-400mm, in place of a 200-500mm. I'm thinking it will be the same f/5.6, giving it a chance of being somewhat smaller and lighter. My fingers are crossed, anyway.

Now, the 200-600, that's another beast altogether. Being an S line lens, I figure it will be superior in many ways. Superior is another word for big, heavy and costly. Probably beyond my needs or financial capability. We'll see.....

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I thought the 200-600 is not s-line

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William Belvin wrote:

I thought the 200-600 is not s-line

You're absolutely right. I've got the two reversed. Thanks.

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msu79gt82 Senior Member • Posts: 1,296
Re: 100-400 S size ??

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

1llusive wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

Obviously, this is a thread with not much more than speculation since Nikon is holding facts tightly. Given that, I can't imagine the 100-400 S model lens being anything slower than f/5.6 on the long end. I reach that conclusion based on the F mount 200-500mm being f/5.6 from end to end. Like PLShutterbug, I use that lens, along with the TC 1.4, for completely satisfactory results on my Z7.

My only complaint about the 200-500 is the size and weight, especially coupled with the FTZ on the Z7. It's hand-holdable in good light for short durations. I'm hoping the Z lens 100-400 will be smaller and lighter.

Problem with asking for smaller and lighter is smaller apertures. But if I had to guess...

100-400 4.5-5.6

x1.4 = 140-560 6.3-7.8 (might officially be f/8)

vs

200-600 4.5-6.3

The 200-600 will certainly offer a larger aperture if you're willing to lug the beast around. Tripod recommended for that one.

But the Z lens is only a 100-400mm, in place of a 200-500mm. I'm thinking it will be the same f/5.6, giving it a chance of being somewhat smaller and lighter. My fingers are crossed, anyway.

According to the published photo of the Z roadmap, the 100-400 S silhouette appears to be about the same size as the Z 70-200f/2.8 S.  So it will be considerably smaller and lighter than the 200-600 whose silhouette appears to be in ballpark of the 400 and 600 S primes.

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Re: 100-400 S lens with TC 1.4 or 2.0 working on Z6?

For what it's worth, the 70-200mm F2.8 already works quite well with the TC 2.0 for an effective 140-400mm F5.6.

Since I already own that combo, I don't expect to be interested in another longer zoom.

One thing I did learn yesterday is that the 24-200mm F4-6.3 travel zoom, when used at 200mm to take golden hour photos of birds has trouble with fast-movers at ASA 64 on my Z7, so I would expect the same to be true of any other combination of long focal length and dim F-stop.

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Re: 100-400 S size ??

msu79gt82 wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

1llusive wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

Obviously, this is a thread with not much more than speculation since Nikon is holding facts tightly. Given that, I can't imagine the 100-400 S model lens being anything slower than f/5.6 on the long end. I reach that conclusion based on the F mount 200-500mm being f/5.6 from end to end. Like PLShutterbug, I use that lens, along with the TC 1.4, for completely satisfactory results on my Z7.

My only complaint about the 200-500 is the size and weight, especially coupled with the FTZ on the Z7. It's hand-holdable in good light for short durations. I'm hoping the Z lens 100-400 will be smaller and lighter.

Problem with asking for smaller and lighter is smaller apertures. But if I had to guess...

100-400 4.5-5.6

x1.4 = 140-560 6.3-7.8 (might officially be f/8)

vs

200-600 4.5-6.3

The 200-600 will certainly offer a larger aperture if you're willing to lug the beast around. Tripod recommended for that one.

But the Z lens is only a 100-400mm, in place of a 200-500mm. I'm thinking it will be the same f/5.6, giving it a chance of being somewhat smaller and lighter. My fingers are crossed, anyway.

According to the published photo of the Z roadmap, the 100-400 S silhouette appears to be about the same size as the Z 70-200f/2.8 S. So it will be considerably smaller and lighter than the 200-600 whose silhouette appears to be in ballpark of the 400 and 600 S primes.

If I've seen that photo, I don't remember it. Do you think the 100-400 might be an f/4? That would be very nice. I'm thankful to have a 200-500 that performs as well as it does. It's probably what I will have for some time to come. I dream a lot more than buy.

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Re: 100-400 S size ??

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

msu79gt82 wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

But the Z lens is only a 100-400mm, in place of a 200-500mm. I'm thinking it will be the same f/5.6, giving it a chance of being somewhat smaller and lighter. My fingers are crossed, anyway.

According to the published photo of the Z roadmap, the 100-400 S silhouette appears to be about the same size as the Z 70-200f/2.8 S. So it will be considerably smaller and lighter than the 200-600 whose silhouette appears to be in ballpark of the 400 and 600 S primes.

If I've seen that photo, I don't remember it. Do you think the 100-400 might be an f/4? That would be very nice. I'm thankful to have a 200-500 that performs as well as it does. It's probably what I will have for some time to come. I dream a lot more than buy.

Nikon-Z-mirrorless-lens-roadmap1.jpg

The diameter of the 100-400 appears to be a bit less than the 70-200 2.8 so who knows?

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Thank you. I do think I remember seeing that. The 100-400 does bear a striking resemblance to the 70-200 f/2.8 in size. How nice would that be compared to the big honkin' 200-500? Oh, to be rich and have a 100-400, paired the new 600 and TC's. 

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Straz wrote:

For what it's worth, the 70-200mm F2.8 already works quite well with the TC 2.0 for an effective 140-400mm F5.6.

Back in the day, a 2.0 TC was simply a poor man's way of getting extra focal length. I was never impressed with anything beyond 1.4 X. The new Z lens and 2 X combo has changed my mind on that. I've been impressed with images I've seen.

Since I already own that combo, I don't expect to be interested in another longer zoom.

One thing I did learn yesterday is that the 24-200mm F4-6.3 travel zoom, when used at 200mm to take golden hour photos of birds has trouble with fast-movers at ASA 64 on my Z7, so I would expect the same to be true of any other combination of long focal length and dim F-stop.

I barely had time to use my 24-200 before shipping my Z7 to Nikon. I'm not surprised that it might be sluggish at lower light levels. I hope the Z7 II might be helpful under similar conditions, but that remains to be seen. You're showing your age when you speak of ASA. 

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Re: 100-400 S size ??

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

msu79gt82 wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

1llusive wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

Obviously, this is a thread with not much more than speculation since Nikon is holding facts tightly. Given that, I can't imagine the 100-400 S model lens being anything slower than f/5.6 on the long end. I reach that conclusion based on the F mount 200-500mm being f/5.6 from end to end. Like PLShutterbug, I use that lens, along with the TC 1.4, for completely satisfactory results on my Z7.

My only complaint about the 200-500 is the size and weight, especially coupled with the FTZ on the Z7. It's hand-holdable in good light for short durations. I'm hoping the Z lens 100-400 will be smaller and lighter.

Problem with asking for smaller and lighter is smaller apertures. But if I had to guess...

100-400 4.5-5.6

x1.4 = 140-560 6.3-7.8 (might officially be f/8)

vs

200-600 4.5-6.3

The 200-600 will certainly offer a larger aperture if you're willing to lug the beast around. Tripod recommended for that one.

But the Z lens is only a 100-400mm, in place of a 200-500mm. I'm thinking it will be the same f/5.6, giving it a chance of being somewhat smaller and lighter. My fingers are crossed, anyway.

According to the published photo of the Z roadmap, the 100-400 S silhouette appears to be about the same size as the Z 70-200f/2.8 S. So it will be considerably smaller and lighter than the 200-600 whose silhouette appears to be in ballpark of the 400 and 600 S primes.

If I've seen that photo, I don't remember it. Do you think the 100-400 might be an f/4? That would be very nice. I'm thankful to have a 200-500 that performs as well as it does. It's probably what I will have for some time to come. I dream a lot more than buy.

When I compare the size if the 100-400 S lens with the much bigger 180-400 f4 it is very unlikely that the S lens will have f4 on the long end.

Most probably it will be a f4.5-f5.6 as the existing 80-400 F mount lens.

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Re: 100-400 S size ??

z2122 wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

msu79gt82 wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

1llusive wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

Obviously, this is a thread with not much more than speculation since Nikon is holding facts tightly. Given that, I can't imagine the 100-400 S model lens being anything slower than f/5.6 on the long end. I reach that conclusion based on the F mount 200-500mm being f/5.6 from end to end. Like PLShutterbug, I use that lens, along with the TC 1.4, for completely satisfactory results on my Z7.

My only complaint about the 200-500 is the size and weight, especially coupled with the FTZ on the Z7. It's hand-holdable in good light for short durations. I'm hoping the Z lens 100-400 will be smaller and lighter.

Problem with asking for smaller and lighter is smaller apertures. But if I had to guess...

100-400 4.5-5.6

x1.4 = 140-560 6.3-7.8 (might officially be f/8)

vs

200-600 4.5-6.3

The 200-600 will certainly offer a larger aperture if you're willing to lug the beast around. Tripod recommended for that one.

But the Z lens is only a 100-400mm, in place of a 200-500mm. I'm thinking it will be the same f/5.6, giving it a chance of being somewhat smaller and lighter. My fingers are crossed, anyway.

According to the published photo of the Z roadmap, the 100-400 S silhouette appears to be about the same size as the Z 70-200f/2.8 S. So it will be considerably smaller and lighter than the 200-600 whose silhouette appears to be in ballpark of the 400 and 600 S primes.

If I've seen that photo, I don't remember it. Do you think the 100-400 might be an f/4? That would be very nice. I'm thankful to have a 200-500 that performs as well as it does. It's probably what I will have for some time to come. I dream a lot more than buy.

When I compare the size if the 100-400 S lens with the much bigger 180-400 f4 it is very unlikely that the S lens will have f4 on the long end.

Most probably it will be a f4.5-f5.6 as the existing 80-400 F mount lens.

Yup, zero chance. f/4 would be a 100mm aperture. It will likely have in the ballpark of a 70-75mm aperture. I think it will be a very versatile lens with a 1.4 TC.

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msu79gt82 Senior Member • Posts: 1,296
Re: 100-400 S size ??

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

Thank you. I do think I remember seeing that. The 100-400 does bear a striking resemblance to the 70-200 f/2.8 in size. How nice would that be compared to the big honkin' 200-500? Oh, to be rich and have a 100-400, paired the new 600 and TC's.

Your welcome.  Oh, to be rich ...

... I do suspect that they won’t be cheap, but hopefully the 100-400 won’t be unreasonable.

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msu79gt82 Senior Member • Posts: 1,296
Re: 100-400 S size ??

z2122 wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

msu79gt82 wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

1llusive wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

z2122 wrote:

In the Canon RF forum people are discussing the use of the Canon 100-500 with TCs on the R5 and it seems to work quite good.

I have a z6 and when the 100-400 S lens will be released I would get one with a T,"c ( most probably the 1.4). Looking at the size of the lens compared to other lenses on the roadmap, most probably the 100-400 will be f5.6 or f6.3 on the long end . Mostly I will use that combo for not movin subjects or big animals .

What is your opinion? Will such a f5.6/f6.3 lens work acceptable on a Z6 with a TC or is there a big difference in AF capabilities between Z6 and R5? ( or Z6 II)

Obviously, this is a thread with not much more than speculation since Nikon is holding facts tightly. Given that, I can't imagine the 100-400 S model lens being anything slower than f/5.6 on the long end. I reach that conclusion based on the F mount 200-500mm being f/5.6 from end to end. Like PLShutterbug, I use that lens, along with the TC 1.4, for completely satisfactory results on my Z7.

My only complaint about the 200-500 is the size and weight, especially coupled with the FTZ on the Z7. It's hand-holdable in good light for short durations. I'm hoping the Z lens 100-400 will be smaller and lighter.

Problem with asking for smaller and lighter is smaller apertures. But if I had to guess...

100-400 4.5-5.6

x1.4 = 140-560 6.3-7.8 (might officially be f/8)

vs

200-600 4.5-6.3

The 200-600 will certainly offer a larger aperture if you're willing to lug the beast around. Tripod recommended for that one.

But the Z lens is only a 100-400mm, in place of a 200-500mm. I'm thinking it will be the same f/5.6, giving it a chance of being somewhat smaller and lighter. My fingers are crossed, anyway.

According to the published photo of the Z roadmap, the 100-400 S silhouette appears to be about the same size as the Z 70-200f/2.8 S. So it will be considerably smaller and lighter than the 200-600 whose silhouette appears to be in ballpark of the 400 and 600 S primes.

If I've seen that photo, I don't remember it. Do you think the 100-400 might be an f/4? That would be very nice. I'm thankful to have a 200-500 that performs as well as it does. It's probably what I will have for some time to come. I dream a lot more than buy.

When I compare the size if the 100-400 S lens with the much bigger 180-400 f4 it is very unlikely that the S lens will have f4 on the long end.

Most probably it will be a f4.5-f5.6 as the existing 80-400 F mount lens.

You’re probably right; I was wishing that with an opening size equivalent to the 70-200f/2.8 along with the Z-Mount diameter perhaps f/4 was possible.  I guess it’s a win-win because I’d love to have an f/4 that size but I want the price of an f/5.6. 

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Re: 100-400 S size ??

z2122 wrote:

Digital Shutterbug wrote:

If I've seen that photo, I don't remember it. Do you think the 100-400 might be an f/4? That would be very nice. I'm thankful to have a 200-500 that performs as well as it does. It's probably what I will have for some time to come. I dream a lot more than buy.

When I compare the size if the 100-400 S lens with the much bigger 180-400 f4 it is very unlikely that the S lens will have f4 on the long end.

Most probably it will be a f4.5-f5.6 as the existing 80-400 F mount lens.

I suspect you're right. What made me think it might be an f/4 is the current history of S-line lenses. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think all S zoom lenses have been constant aperture, and none slower than f/4. That doesn't mean Nikon will adhere to that scheme.

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