Canon PRO-200 on its way...

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Keith Cooper
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I've just heard* that a PRO-200 is being sent out for one of my reviews.

If anyone has any specific questions, please do let me know?

It will be interesting to compare some PRO-200/300 prints, since I've never had both dye and pigment ink versions of a printer type here at the same time.

* The house management has not yet been informed. Not sure how well having a P700, P900+roll unit, PRO-300 and PRO-200 here is going to be received...

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Re: Canon PRO-200 on its way...

Keith Cooper wrote:

* The house management has not yet been informed. Not sure how well having a P700, P900+roll unit, PRO-300 and PRO-200 here is going to be received...

You can handle it, Keith. Hang tough.

NAwlins Contrarian Veteran Member • Posts: 5,641
Great! Now, questions ...

I've just heard* that a PRO-200 is being sent out for one of my reviews.

Whohoo!

If anyone has any specific questions, please do let me know?

IMO the most interesting question is how the supposedly-new black and magenta inks really compare. Supposedly compared to the longstanding ChromaLife 100+ inks in the Pro-100 and many other printers, the black ink produces darker blacks and the magenta expands the gamut. Can either or both of those be detected visually? With measurements associated with profiling or otherwise? Is the new black equally neutral, more so, less so? If you want, I would print you Pro-100 test / comparison prints on (U.S.) standard letter-size (8.5x11 in) Canon papers and mail them to you (PM me if interested).

Of course, another question is whether / how these new inks affect fade resistance. But that's more Mark McCormick's area.

Another question is whether there area any print quality or head-strike issues with printing on stiff and thick 'art' papers nearer the top and bottom than the 30mm that the Pro-100 allows.

Thanks!

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Re: Great! Now, questions ...

NAwlins Contrarian wrote:

I've just heard* that a PRO-200 is being sent out for one of my reviews.

Whohoo!

If anyone has any specific questions, please do let me know?

IMO the most interesting question is how the supposedly-new black and magenta inks really compare. Supposedly compared to the longstanding ChromaLife 100+ inks in the Pro-100 and many other printers, the black ink produces darker blacks and the magenta expands the gamut. Can either or both of those be detected visually?

This I can't directly answer - it was years ago I last had such a printer here to look at

With measurements associated with profiling or otherwise? Is the new black equally neutral, more so, less so? If you want, I would print you Pro-100 test / comparison prints on (U.S.) standard letter-size (8.5x11 in) Canon papers and mail them to you (PM me if interested).

A good suggestion - I'll let you know - this partly depends on what papers I get and what you've got.

Of course, another question is whether / how these new inks affect fade resistance. But that's more Mark McCormick's area.

Ah yes - something my patience (or that of the house management) doesn't run to testing

Another question is whether there area any print quality or head-strike issues with printing on stiff and thick 'art' papers nearer the top and bottom than the 30mm that the Pro-100 allows.

Paper handling is one of the biggest improvements in the pro-300, I'm expecting similar in the 200.

The old 100 paper margin limitations were to me a massive fail - I'll need to have a good read of my 2014 review though.

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Keith Cooper wrote:

I've just heard* that a PRO-200 is being sent out for one of my reviews.

If anyone has any specific questions, please do let me know?

It will be interesting to compare some PRO-200/300 prints, since I've never had both dye and pigment ink versions of a printer type here at the same time.

* The house management has not yet been informed. Not sure how well having a P700, P900+roll unit, PRO-300 and PRO-200 here is going to be received...

Are these printer reviews paying the bills? Then tell your significant other to get over it...

Specifically, I want to see side by side comparisons of the 200/300 with respect to black and white prints, especially on matte papers.

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NAwlins Contrarian Veteran Member • Posts: 5,641
Re: Great! Now, questions ...

If anyone has any specific questions, please do let me know?

IMO the most interesting question is how the supposedly-new black and magenta inks really compare. Supposedly compared to the longstanding ChromaLife 100+ inks in the Pro-100 and many other printers, the black ink produces darker blacks and the magenta expands the gamut. Can either or both of those be detected visually?

This I can't directly answer - it was years ago I last had such a printer here to look at

With measurements associated with profiling or otherwise? Is the new black equally neutral, more so, less so? If you want, I would print you Pro-100 test / comparison prints on (U.S.) standard letter-size (8.5x11 in) Canon papers and mail them to you (PM me if interested).

A good suggestion - I'll let you know - this partly depends on what papers I get and what you've got.

I could, e.g., print on the Pro-100 some test images on our Pro-100 using Canon Glossy II, Pro Luster, and Pro Premium Matte, and then send you not only those test prints but also a few sheets of each paper for you to print test images on the Pro-200.

We'd need to work out a protocol to try to make sure the prints are otherwise-comparable, but I don't think it would be that difficult.

As for other papers, I have Canson Rag Photographique 210, and I think I have a few sheets of Canson Platine, plus some others. But my idea is to stick to very common / standard papers.

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farmersteve wrote:

Keith Cooper wrote:

I've just heard* that a PRO-200 is being sent out for one of my reviews.

If anyone has any specific questions, please do let me know?

It will be interesting to compare some PRO-200/300 prints, since I've never had both dye and pigment ink versions of a printer type here at the same time.

* The house management has not yet been informed. Not sure how well having a P700, P900+roll unit, PRO-300 and PRO-200 here is going to be received...

Are these printer reviews paying the bills?

I wish - I get nothing for them, other than visits to our web site and a small ad revenue and a few other affiliate things.  Of course it does mean I'm never short of paper That and it helps get my requests for other things to test taken more seriously.

It does actually help the photo business, by giving me the chance to experiment and try new things in ways a lot of pro photographers miss out on

Then tell your significant other to get over it...

Hmm, I'll get you her number...

But seriously, I just need to remember not to leave stuff laying around for too long

Specifically, I want to see side by side comparisons of the 200/300 with respect to black and white prints, especially on matte papers.

I'll be sure to have lots of charts to measure with the i1iSis

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Re: Great! Now, questions ...

NAwlins Contrarian wrote:

If anyone has any specific questions, please do let me know?

IMO the most interesting question is how the supposedly-new black and magenta inks really compare. Supposedly compared to the longstanding ChromaLife 100+ inks in the Pro-100 and many other printers, the black ink produces darker blacks and the magenta expands the gamut. Can either or both of those be detected visually?

This I can't directly answer - it was years ago I last had such a printer here to look at

With measurements associated with profiling or otherwise? Is the new black equally neutral, more so, less so? If you want, I would print you Pro-100 test / comparison prints on (U.S.) standard letter-size (8.5x11 in) Canon papers and mail them to you (PM me if interested).

A good suggestion - I'll let you know - this partly depends on what papers I get and what you've got.

I could, e.g., print on the Pro-100 some test images on our Pro-100 using Canon Glossy II, Pro Luster, and Pro Premium Matte, and then send you not only those test prints but also a few sheets of each paper for you to print test images on the Pro-200.

We'd need to work out a protocol to try to make sure the prints are otherwise-comparable, but I don't think it would be that difficult.

As for other papers, I have Canson Rag Photographique 210, and I think I have a few sheets of Canson Platine, plus some others. But my idea is to stick to very common / standard papers.

Sure - this might be best, since some papers here in Europe are not necessarily the same - also we only have A4.

I'll have a look and see what comes with the 200, since I was only told that one was 'going to be sent' this morning.

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The most obvious question, already mentioned, is how the new color set compares.  But what does the printer deliver in terms of improved function, cost of use and perceived print quality.  How does it differentiate from Epson?  What advantage does a user have over an Epson?

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Keith, find out if it has a driver and SETUP for Mac OS11 (Big Sur).

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chrisgalway wrote:

Keith, find out if it has a driver and SETUP for Mac OS11 (Big Sur).

No idea on that I'm afraid - I still use a souped up 2010 Mac Pro on 10.14 I suspect the chances of me acquiring a Mac to run that system any time soon are slim at best...

Well, that and I have to admit that having used and for a long while looked after Macs since 1990 I've studiously avoided any Mac system with a .0 in the name for actual work

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Your efforts are much appreciated!

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