Photoshop Elements 21 vs Adobe Photoshop CC subscription

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Chizuka
Chizuka Contributing Member • Posts: 868
Photoshop Elements 21 vs Adobe Photoshop CC subscription

Hi,

PSE 21 is on sale right now and I am wondering what are the differences between it and the monthly subscription version of Photoshop CC from Adobe?
For example, is the stacking function the same?
and what about the Sky replacement option?
And other features?

Thank you in advance for your help.

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Gerry Winterbourne Forum Pro • Posts: 18,422
Re: Photoshop Elements 21 vs Adobe Photoshop CC subscription

Chizuka wrote:

Hi,

PSE 21 is on sale right now and I am wondering what are the differences between it and the monthly subscription version of Photoshop CC from Adobe?

PSE contains a small fraction of what is in the full CC version; but there are a couple of things it has that CC doesn't.

For raw development the Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) module in CC - which is effectively the same as Lightroom - has something like ten times the functionality of the version of ACR in PSE.

The whole point of PSE is that it contains the elements of PS that suit most of the needs of most people. No one ever uses the full capability of the systems they own; what matters is if the system covers the things they do use.

For example, is the stacking function the same?

The same or better ...

and what about the Sky replacement option?

Yes.

And other features?

Hundreds.

Thank you in advance for your help.

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Prairie Pal Senior Member • Posts: 2,818
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They're up to v.21 already?  They've even surpassed star wars movies.  I remember last having a v.3 disk somewhere,  i wonder if i could upgrade for free.

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Tom_N Forum Pro • Posts: 18,531
Re: Photoshop Elements 21 vs Adobe Photoshop CC subscription

Prairie Pal wrote:

They're up to v.21 already? They've even surpassed star wars movies. I remember last having a v.3 disk somewhere, i wonder if i could upgrade for free.

Whenever the major version number of Photoshop Elements goes up, that means that you don't get a free upgrade.

Chizuka
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Re: Photoshop Elements 21 vs Adobe Photoshop CC subscription

Prairie Pal wrote:

They're up to v.21 already? They've even surpassed star wars movies. I remember last having a v.3 disk somewhere, i wonder if i could upgrade for free.

They have a new one every year hence 21 for 2021. Right now I have PSE 13.  
I think you would maybe get an upgrade discount.

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jim mij Regular Member • Posts: 301
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I still use v11 to manage my images but these days rarely use its editor, although to be honest it’s still good in expert mode

I begrudged adobe not offering upgrades to loyal users (long time ago) especially as I didn’t see useable improvements, just gimmicks

however last year when my pc crashed and I had to rebuild I found I had lost the disk... I only kept the license key... but it turns out Adobe  support  were incredibly helpful pointing me to a download site, that and backups meant no losses

based on that I’m tempted to upgrade this year

Jim

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JimH123 Senior Member • Posts: 2,741
Re: Photoshop Elements 21 vs Adobe Photoshop CC subscription

Chizuka wrote:

Hi,

PSE 21 is on sale right now and I am wondering what are the differences between it and the monthly subscription version of Photoshop CC from Adobe?
For example, is the stacking function the same?
and what about the Sky replacement option?
And other features?

Thank you in advance for your help.

It used to be that Photoshop Elements limited you to 8-bits, including for TIFF files.  Maybe this is no longer true?  I don't know.  Limiting myself to 8-bits would not be something I would want.  But if you only shoot JPEGs, maybe it won't matter.

Last time I looked at it (years ago) it had a Levels Adjustment, but no Curves.  Again, don't know if this is still the case.

Also, I remember it having less functionality in layers.

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David1961
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JimH123 wrote:

Chizuka wrote:

Hi,

PSE 21 is on sale right now and I am wondering what are the differences between it and the monthly subscription version of Photoshop CC from Adobe?
For example, is the stacking function the same?
and what about the Sky replacement option?
And other features?

Thank you in advance for your help.

It used to be that Photoshop Elements limited you to 8-bits, including for TIFF files. Maybe this is no longer true? I don't know. Limiting myself to 8-bits would not be something I would want. But if you only shoot JPEGs, maybe it won't matter.

Last time I looked at it (years ago) it had a Levels Adjustment, but no Curves. Again, don't know if this is still the case.

Also, I remember it having less functionality in layers.

The ACR that comes with PSE allows you to edit in 16 bit. But after you then open the image in the PSE editor for further editing, 16 bit support is very limited and you need to change to 8 bit mode for most of the tools and commands to become available.

PSE alone and especially with the very budget friendly optional plug-in Elements+ , which unlocks the many big brother Photoshop features "hidden" in PSE, the app has all the bells and whistles and ticks all the boxes for most hobbyist/enthusiast photographers.

I shoot raw and I am using PSE 2020 with Elements+.

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Chizuka
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Re: Photoshop Elements 21 vs Adobe Photoshop CC subscription

jim mij wrote:

I still use v11 to manage my images but these days rarely use its editor, although to be honest it’s still good in expert mode

I begrudged adobe not offering upgrades to loyal users (long time ago) especially as I didn’t see useable improvements, just gimmicks

however last year when my pc crashed and I had to rebuild I found I had lost the disk... I only kept the license key... but it turns out Adobe support were incredibly helpful pointing me to a download site, that and backups meant no losses

based on that I’m tempted to upgrade this year

Jim

Hi Jim,

i do like the fact that with an actual purchase of PSE, I can skip a few years if I want too, which is not possible with Photoshop CC. After 8 years with PSE 13, I thought it was time for an upgrade, but wanted to know how much I am missing out on by not getting Photoshop CC. From people’s comments, it looks like I am, but maybe it is not the end of the world if I cannot do certain things. It is all relative.

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Chizuka
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Re: Photoshop Elements 21 vs Adobe Photoshop CC subscription

David1961 wrote:

JimH123 wrote:

Chizuka wrote:

Hi,

PSE 21 is on sale right now and I am wondering what are the differences between it and the monthly subscription version of Photoshop CC from Adobe?
For example, is the stacking function the same?
and what about the Sky replacement option?
And other features?

Thank you in advance for your help.

It used to be that Photoshop Elements limited you to 8-bits, including for TIFF files. Maybe this is no longer true? I don't know. Limiting myself to 8-bits would not be something I would want. But if you only shoot JPEGs, maybe it won't matter.

Last time I looked at it (years ago) it had a Levels Adjustment, but no Curves. Again, don't know if this is still the case.

Also, I remember it having less functionality in layers.

The ACR that comes with PSE allows you to edit in 16 bit. But after you then open the image in the PSE editor for further editing, 16 bit support is very limited and you need to change to 8 bit mode for most of the tools and commands to become available.

PSE alone and especially with the very budget friendly optional plug-in Elements+ , which unlocks the many big brother Photoshop features "hidden" in PSE, the app has all the bells and whistles and ticks all the boxes for most hobbyist/enthusiast photographers.

Oh! I had heard about Elements + a few years ago but had forgotten about it. I will look into it and see how much it costs in Canada. Thanks for mentioning it.

I shoot raw and I am using PSE 2020 with Elements+.

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