OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes

Started 4 months ago | Discussions
anupamkatkar
anupamkatkar Regular Member • Posts: 275
OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes

Maybe I shouldn't call this a pet peeve because I do not know any other camera that does it either, but there's a small firmware improvement that I think would make an OM-D camera much more powerful.

As of now, you can program the mode switch around the AEL/AFL button to switch between AF modes and focus areas.

For example, you can program Mode 1 to shoot S-AF for a single tracking area, and Mode 2 to shoot C-AF for a 3x3 area. That makes it really easy to switch between, say, focusing on the eye of a perched bird in S-AF and photographing a bird in flight a moment later, at the flick of a switch.

But you cannot change the shooting mode! Say you're shooting single frames in Mode 1, then flick the switch to Mode 2, it will only shoot a single frame in Mode 2.

Or if you're using ProCap H in Mode 1, waiting for a perched bird to take off ... and see another bird in flight, you could switch to Mode 2 (C-AF), but that would be pointless because you need to switch to L or ProCap-L to get usable BIF shots. And to change that, you'll have to press the button on top left or use the SCP, and by that time you'll miss your shot.

Anyone else frustrated by this? Any workarounds?

 anupamkatkar's gear list:anupamkatkar's gear list
Olympus OM-D E-M5 Olympus PEN E-PL6 Nikon D500 Olympus E-M1 II Olympus Zuiko Digital ED 50-200mm 1:2.8-3.5 SWD +22 more
Kiwisnap Senior Member • Posts: 1,230
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes
2

I came to Olympus from Nikon which I had shot for many years.

I have been shooting Olympus for 2 years at least and I STILL end up pressing numerous buttons etc to change drive modes, AF modes etc etc in error because (a) I forget which does what and (b) none of it is very intuitive.

They could certainly take lessons from Nikon in that area.

I find I usually end up leaving it in one mode for very long periods of time, only changing if strictly required.

 Kiwisnap's gear list:Kiwisnap's gear list
Olympus OM-D E-M1X Olympus Zuiko Digital 1.4x Teleconverter EC-14 Olympus 40-150mm F2.8 Pro Olympus 7-14mm F2.8 Pro Olympus 8mm F1.8 Fisheye Pro +2 more
ahaslett
ahaslett Veteran Member • Posts: 7,509
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes
3

Have you tried Custom modes?

Andrew

-- hide signature --

Infinite are the arguments of mages. Truth is a jewel with many facets. Ursula K LeGuin
Please feel free to edit any images that I post

 ahaslett's gear list:ahaslett's gear list
Sigma DP1 Merrill Sigma DP3 Merrill Olympus E-M1 Sony a7R Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 +27 more
ScottoG Forum Member • Posts: 53
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes
6

This is possible with some OMD cameras (but not others). 
I have my E-M5 and E-M5 II set up just as you described, with

  • MySet1 = S-AF, single point, single-frame, mode P (could be A or S or M), etc
  • MySet2 = C-AF, 3x3 grid, sequential L, mode S (1/1000 sec, adjustable), etc

Plus I have a button (e.g. L-Fn, and/or DOF preview on the Mk II) assigned to MySet2.

When shooting, I start with MySet1 (e.g. for perched bird), then press the 'MySet2' button when I want to capture BIF.  And pressing the assigned button again switches back to MySet1.  It's brilliant!

I expect this approach is possible with other models that support MySets (e.g. E-M10 & E-M10 II) ... but, unfortunately, not with the more current models such as E-M5 III, E-M10 III & IV.  The E-M1 III, where the custom modes (C1-C4) can be assigned to buttons would also support this technique, I expect.

Depending on which OMD you have or are planning to get, I hope that's helpful ... and doesn't just add to your frustration!

 ScottoG's gear list:ScottoG's gear list
Olympus E-M5 II Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 17mm F1.8 Olympus 14-150 F4-5.6 II Olympus 30mm F3.5 Macro Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 9-18mm F4.0-5.6 +3 more
bill dennis Regular Member • Posts: 223
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes

You mean the Function Lever control?  It allows to switch between AF target points and AF modes for each position in the Mode 2 setting under the B1 menu but it has no way to set different drive modes or even swap between 2 custom settings. Yes, I find that frustrating too. I do not know a way of making it do what I want.

 bill dennis's gear list:bill dennis's gear list
Olympus E-1 Olympus E-3 Olympus E-510 Olympus E-5 Olympus E-M1 +9 more
Denjw
Denjw Veteran Member • Posts: 6,716
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes

anupamkatkar wrote:

Maybe I shouldn't call this a pet peeve because I do not know any other camera that does it either, but there's a small firmware improvement that I think would make an OM-D camera much more powerful.

As of now, you can program the mode switch around the AEL/AFL button to switch between AF modes and focus areas.

For example, you can program Mode 1 to shoot S-AF for a single tracking area, and Mode 2 to shoot C-AF for a 3x3 area. That makes it really easy to switch between, say, focusing on the eye of a perched bird in S-AF and photographing a bird in flight a moment later, at the flick of a switch.

But you cannot change the shooting mode! Say you're shooting single frames in Mode 1, then flick the switch to Mode 2, it will only shoot a single frame in Mode 2.

Or if you're using ProCap H in Mode 1, waiting for a perched bird to take off ... and see another bird in flight, you could switch to Mode 2 (C-AF), but that would be pointless because you need to switch to L or ProCap-L to get usable BIF shots. And to change that, you'll have to press the button on top left or use the SCP, and by that time you'll miss your shot.

Anyone else frustrated by this? Any workarounds?

The omission of Mysets from the E-M1.II, E-M1.III and the E-M1X is the my pet peeve too!

This is what I miss most from the E-M1 Mysets where you could set up different settings (including drive mode) and assign them to Function buttons. Then you could switch from a static situation to a moving one with a press of button.

The E-M1.II does not even have the option to assign a Custom Mode to a FN button so that was a big omission too!

For the E-M1.II what I have done is to use the Set Home function as a work around. Set up all your desired settings first, I use Manual Mode so I can set up desired shutter speed/aperture ISO and drive mode (Low silent sequential).

Then assign the Set Home function to a button, I use Fn1, then set home position as S-AF and Single Target. Then in the SCP change the Target to All Points and AF mode to C-AF. Now you can switch between both by pressing the Fn1 button.

I have this setup for each of my Custom Modes varying the Target points, AF modes and Drive modes to suit the purpose.

-- hide signature --
 Denjw's gear list:Denjw's gear list
Olympus E-300 Olympus E-30 Olympus E-5 Olympus E-M1 Olympus E-M1 II +17 more
Lichtspiel
Lichtspiel Senior Member • Posts: 2,582
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes

Denjw wrote:

anupamkatkar wrote:

Maybe I shouldn't call this a pet peeve because I do not know any other camera that does it either, but there's a small firmware improvement that I think would make an OM-D camera much more powerful.

As of now, you can program the mode switch around the AEL/AFL button to switch between AF modes and focus areas.

For example, you can program Mode 1 to shoot S-AF for a single tracking area, and Mode 2 to shoot C-AF for a 3x3 area. That makes it really easy to switch between, say, focusing on the eye of a perched bird in S-AF and photographing a bird in flight a moment later, at the flick of a switch.

But you cannot change the shooting mode! Say you're shooting single frames in Mode 1, then flick the switch to Mode 2, it will only shoot a single frame in Mode 2.

Or if you're using ProCap H in Mode 1, waiting for a perched bird to take off ... and see another bird in flight, you could switch to Mode 2 (C-AF), but that would be pointless because you need to switch to L or ProCap-L to get usable BIF shots. And to change that, you'll have to press the button on top left or use the SCP, and by that time you'll miss your shot.

Anyone else frustrated by this? Any workarounds?

The omission of Mysets from the E-M1.II, E-M1.III and the E-M1X is the my pet peeve too!

This is what I miss most from the E-M1 Mysets where you could set up different settings (including drive mode) and assign them to Function buttons. Then you could switch from a static situation to a moving one with a press of button.

The E-M1.II does not even have the option to assign a Custom Mode to a FN button so that was a big omission too!

For the E-M1.II what I have done is to use the Set Home function as a work around. Set up all your desired settings first, I use Manual Mode so I can set up desired shutter speed/aperture ISO and drive mode (Low silent sequential).

Then assign the Set Home function to a button, I use Fn1, then set home position as S-AF and Single Target. Then in the SCP change the Target to All Points and AF mode to C-AF. Now you can switch between both by pressing the Fn1 button.

I have this setup for each of my Custom Modes varying the Target points, AF modes and Drive modes to suit the purpose.

I think my E-M1ii does have MySets. Only 3 rather than 4 as the 10ii had, still, you can assign them to the Custom dial positions, including the modes and all.

Maybe I misunderstood...

 Lichtspiel's gear list:Lichtspiel's gear list
Olympus E-M1 II Panasonic 12-35mm F2.8 Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 15mm F1.7 ASPH Olympus 8mm F1.8 Fisheye Pro Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm F4-5.6 R +3 more
ahaslett
ahaslett Veteran Member • Posts: 7,509
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes
2

Lichtspiel wrote:

Denjw wrote:

anupamkatkar wrote:

Maybe I shouldn't call this a pet peeve because I do not know any other camera that does it either, but there's a small firmware improvement that I think would make an OM-D camera much more powerful.

As of now, you can program the mode switch around the AEL/AFL button to switch between AF modes and focus areas.

For example, you can program Mode 1 to shoot S-AF for a single tracking area, and Mode 2 to shoot C-AF for a 3x3 area. That makes it really easy to switch between, say, focusing on the eye of a perched bird in S-AF and photographing a bird in flight a moment later, at the flick of a switch.

But you cannot change the shooting mode! Say you're shooting single frames in Mode 1, then flick the switch to Mode 2, it will only shoot a single frame in Mode 2.

Or if you're using ProCap H in Mode 1, waiting for a perched bird to take off ... and see another bird in flight, you could switch to Mode 2 (C-AF), but that would be pointless because you need to switch to L or ProCap-L to get usable BIF shots. And to change that, you'll have to press the button on top left or use the SCP, and by that time you'll miss your shot.

Anyone else frustrated by this? Any workarounds?

The omission of Mysets from the E-M1.II, E-M1.III and the E-M1X is the my pet peeve too!

This is what I miss most from the E-M1 Mysets where you could set up different settings (including drive mode) and assign them to Function buttons. Then you could switch from a static situation to a moving one with a press of button.

The E-M1.II does not even have the option to assign a Custom Mode to a FN button so that was a big omission too!

For the E-M1.II what I have done is to use the Set Home function as a work around. Set up all your desired settings first, I use Manual Mode so I can set up desired shutter speed/aperture ISO and drive mode (Low silent sequential).

Then assign the Set Home function to a button, I use Fn1, then set home position as S-AF and Single Target. Then in the SCP change the Target to All Points and AF mode to C-AF. Now you can switch between both by pressing the Fn1 button.

I have this setup for each of my Custom Modes varying the Target points, AF modes and Drive modes to suit the purpose.

I think my E-M1ii does have MySets. Only 3 rather than 4 as the 10ii had, still, you can assign them to the Custom dial positions, including the modes and all.

Maybe I misunderstood...

They were renamed Custom Modes and are much better than the Mysets on my EM1.1.

Andrew

-- hide signature --

Infinite are the arguments of mages. Truth is a jewel with many facets. Ursula K LeGuin
Please feel free to edit any images that I post

 ahaslett's gear list:ahaslett's gear list
Sigma DP1 Merrill Sigma DP3 Merrill Olympus E-M1 Sony a7R Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 +27 more
Denjw
Denjw Veteran Member • Posts: 6,716
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes

Lichtspiel wrote:

Denjw wrote:

anupamkatkar wrote:

Maybe I shouldn't call this a pet peeve because I do not know any other camera that does it either, but there's a small firmware improvement that I think would make an OM-D camera much more powerful.

As of now, you can program the mode switch around the AEL/AFL button to switch between AF modes and focus areas.

For example, you can program Mode 1 to shoot S-AF for a single tracking area, and Mode 2 to shoot C-AF for a 3x3 area. That makes it really easy to switch between, say, focusing on the eye of a perched bird in S-AF and photographing a bird in flight a moment later, at the flick of a switch.

But you cannot change the shooting mode! Say you're shooting single frames in Mode 1, then flick the switch to Mode 2, it will only shoot a single frame in Mode 2.

Or if you're using ProCap H in Mode 1, waiting for a perched bird to take off ... and see another bird in flight, you could switch to Mode 2 (C-AF), but that would be pointless because you need to switch to L or ProCap-L to get usable BIF shots. And to change that, you'll have to press the button on top left or use the SCP, and by that time you'll miss your shot.

Anyone else frustrated by this? Any workarounds?

The omission of Mysets from the E-M1.II, E-M1.III and the E-M1X is the my pet peeve too!

This is what I miss most from the E-M1 Mysets where you could set up different settings (including drive mode) and assign them to Function buttons. Then you could switch from a static situation to a moving one with a press of button.

The E-M1.II does not even have the option to assign a Custom Mode to a FN button so that was a big omission too!

For the E-M1.II what I have done is to use the Set Home function as a work around. Set up all your desired settings first, I use Manual Mode so I can set up desired shutter speed/aperture ISO and drive mode (Low silent sequential).

Then assign the Set Home function to a button, I use Fn1, then set home position as S-AF and Single Target. Then in the SCP change the Target to All Points and AF mode to C-AF. Now you can switch between both by pressing the Fn1 button.

I have this setup for each of my Custom Modes varying the Target points, AF modes and Drive modes to suit the purpose.

I think my E-M1ii does have MySets. Only 3 rather than 4 as the 10ii had, still, you can assign them to the Custom dial positions, including the modes and all.

Maybe I misunderstood...

No the Mysets were changed to Custom Modes. While you assign them to the Custom Dial positions there is no option to then assign the CMs to a Function button to easily switch modes with a push of a button. On the E-M1.II you have to physically reach for the Custom Dial and turn it to another CM position.

-- hide signature --
 Denjw's gear list:Denjw's gear list
Olympus E-300 Olympus E-30 Olympus E-5 Olympus E-M1 Olympus E-M1 II +17 more
Denjw
Denjw Veteran Member • Posts: 6,716
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes

ahaslett wrote:

Lichtspiel wrote:

Denjw wrote:

anupamkatkar wrote:

Maybe I shouldn't call this a pet peeve because I do not know any other camera that does it either, but there's a small firmware improvement that I think would make an OM-D camera much more powerful.

As of now, you can program the mode switch around the AEL/AFL button to switch between AF modes and focus areas.

For example, you can program Mode 1 to shoot S-AF for a single tracking area, and Mode 2 to shoot C-AF for a 3x3 area. That makes it really easy to switch between, say, focusing on the eye of a perched bird in S-AF and photographing a bird in flight a moment later, at the flick of a switch.

But you cannot change the shooting mode! Say you're shooting single frames in Mode 1, then flick the switch to Mode 2, it will only shoot a single frame in Mode 2.

Or if you're using ProCap H in Mode 1, waiting for a perched bird to take off ... and see another bird in flight, you could switch to Mode 2 (C-AF), but that would be pointless because you need to switch to L or ProCap-L to get usable BIF shots. And to change that, you'll have to press the button on top left or use the SCP, and by that time you'll miss your shot.

Anyone else frustrated by this? Any workarounds?

The omission of Mysets from the E-M1.II, E-M1.III and the E-M1X is the my pet peeve too!

This is what I miss most from the E-M1 Mysets where you could set up different settings (including drive mode) and assign them to Function buttons. Then you could switch from a static situation to a moving one with a press of button.

The E-M1.II does not even have the option to assign a Custom Mode to a FN button so that was a big omission too!

For the E-M1.II what I have done is to use the Set Home function as a work around. Set up all your desired settings first, I use Manual Mode so I can set up desired shutter speed/aperture ISO and drive mode (Low silent sequential).

Then assign the Set Home function to a button, I use Fn1, then set home position as S-AF and Single Target. Then in the SCP change the Target to All Points and AF mode to C-AF. Now you can switch between both by pressing the Fn1 button.

I have this setup for each of my Custom Modes varying the Target points, AF modes and Drive modes to suit the purpose.

I think my E-M1ii does have MySets. Only 3 rather than 4 as the 10ii had, still, you can assign them to the Custom dial positions, including the modes and all.

Maybe I misunderstood...

They were renamed Custom Modes and are much better than the Mysets on my EM1.1.

Andrew

Not my experience when you wish to change shooting modes quickly for a scenario as outlined by the OP.

-- hide signature --
 Denjw's gear list:Denjw's gear list
Olympus E-300 Olympus E-30 Olympus E-5 Olympus E-M1 Olympus E-M1 II +17 more
drj3 Forum Pro • Posts: 10,836
Re: OM-D Pet peeve: switching shooting modes
1

Denjw wrote:

Lichtspiel wrote:

Denjw wrote:

anupamkatkar wrote:

Maybe I shouldn't call this a pet peeve because I do not know any other camera that does it either, but there's a small firmware improvement that I think would make an OM-D camera much more powerful.

As of now, you can program the mode switch around the AEL/AFL button to switch between AF modes and focus areas.

For example, you can program Mode 1 to shoot S-AF for a single tracking area, and Mode 2 to shoot C-AF for a 3x3 area. That makes it really easy to switch between, say, focusing on the eye of a perched bird in S-AF and photographing a bird in flight a moment later, at the flick of a switch.

But you cannot change the shooting mode! Say you're shooting single frames in Mode 1, then flick the switch to Mode 2, it will only shoot a single frame in Mode 2.

Or if you're using ProCap H in Mode 1, waiting for a perched bird to take off ... and see another bird in flight, you could switch to Mode 2 (C-AF), but that would be pointless because you need to switch to L or ProCap-L to get usable BIF shots. And to change that, you'll have to press the button on top left or use the SCP, and by that time you'll miss your shot.

Anyone else frustrated by this? Any workarounds?

The omission of Mysets from the E-M1.II, E-M1.III and the E-M1X is the my pet peeve too!

This is what I miss most from the E-M1 Mysets where you could set up different settings (including drive mode) and assign them to Function buttons. Then you could switch from a static situation to a moving one with a press of button.

The E-M1.II does not even have the option to assign a Custom Mode to a FN button so that was a big omission too!

For the E-M1.II what I have done is to use the Set Home function as a work around. Set up all your desired settings first, I use Manual Mode so I can set up desired shutter speed/aperture ISO and drive mode (Low silent sequential).

Then assign the Set Home function to a button, I use Fn1, then set home position as S-AF and Single Target. Then in the SCP change the Target to All Points and AF mode to C-AF. Now you can switch between both by pressing the Fn1 button.

I have this setup for each of my Custom Modes varying the Target points, AF modes and Drive modes to suit the purpose.

I think my E-M1ii does have MySets. Only 3 rather than 4 as the 10ii had, still, you can assign them to the Custom dial positions, including the modes and all.

Maybe I misunderstood...

No the Mysets were changed to Custom Modes. While you assign them to the Custom Dial positions there is no option to then assign the CMs to a Function button to easily switch modes with a push of a button. On the E-M1.II you have to physically reach for the Custom Dial and turn it to another CM position.

With the E-M1.3 you can assign any of the 4 Custom setups to buttons to quickly change to a custom setup without moving the dial.  However, this will not work to change the custom when the dial is set to one of the custom modes.

-- hide signature --

drj3

 drj3's gear list:drj3's gear list
Olympus E-510 Olympus E-5 Olympus E-M1 Olympus OM-D E-M10 Olympus E-M1 II +9 more
Keyboard shortcuts:
FForum MMy threads