What vintage lens is this?

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WideCircle New Member • Posts: 8
What vintage lens is this?

Hi!
Is there anyone out there who maybe can tell from these two photos what vintage "silver colored" lens this is? 
Thanks, Niklas

MOD Tom Caldwell Forum Pro • Posts: 42,292
Re: What vintage lens is this?

You might get lucky Niklas,

Someone might be able to de-cypher the nameplate on the lens from the fuzzy image you supplied. Or just know the lens just by shape - which is something we offer a special “lens expert” medal for

You will have to do a bit better than this though - were you able to read what was on the lens nameplate at the time you took the photographs?  That would help immensely.

That it was sitting next to a Petri camera does not mean a lot.

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Re: What vintage lens is this?

It looks to me like a Soviet 135mm f4  Jupiter 11.

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Aoi Usagi Senior Member • Posts: 2,505
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Isco-Gottingen Westanar lens.

Can't tell the focal length or aperture. 135mm F3.5?

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Re: What vintage lens is this?

Aoi Usagi wrote:

Isco-Gottingen Westanar lens.

Can't tell the focal length or aperture. 135mm F3.5?

I think I might award you that medal - now that you seem to have identified it my mind starts to see the words through the fuzz ..... It is certainly not a Jupiter-11.

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Aoi Usagi Senior Member • Posts: 2,505
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Yes, our mind plays tricks on us.  When we think we see something, our brain sorts out the fuzziness.  If I'm right, I will gladly wait for my award to arrive.

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Aoi Usagi wrote:

Isco-Gottingen Westanar lens.

Can't tell the focal length or aperture. 135mm F3.5?

Correct. The 85mm and 150mm Westanars look different. Here it is:

Some more info: https://photobutmore.de/exakta/isco/

This is in German, but there are lots of photos of the lenses. According to this source, the silver versions were manufactured 1954/1955 (matte) and 1957 (glossy).

OP WideCircle New Member • Posts: 8
Re: What vintage lens is this?

Hi Tom!
Ah - you see it's not me that took the pictures.
It's fram an ad and the seller doesn't seem to now a lot about photography.
For some reason he couldn't say anything about the leans even though I asked about markings or text on the lens.

OP WideCircle New Member • Posts: 8
Re: What vintage lens is this?

Hi Ravduc!
Yeah that's one option that I've been looking into myself...

OP WideCircle New Member • Posts: 8
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Hmm - interesting!
Thank you very much!!
I didn't know about these lenses...
They are new to me!

OP WideCircle New Member • Posts: 8
Re: What vintage lens is this?

Nice!
Thanks for this.
Will try to find some more info about this lens.
The lens itself is beautiful but I will try to find some actual tests to see if it's worth buying...

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ISCO and Enna
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ISCO with Enna seem to me to have been manufacturers that made more popular second rank lenses in the days when the world did not have as much money to spend on camera gear as present day.  That did not mean that they did not make some excellent lenses but i suspect that marketing to a price sold the most lenses.

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The Jupiter-11

The Jupiter-11 is not a bad lens. Also its derivatives the Jupiter-10A and the Jupiter-37A.

Only the “11” was made in LTM.

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WideCircle wrote:

Nice!
Thanks for this.
Will try to find some more info about this lens.
The lens itself is beautiful but I will try to find some actual tests to see if it's worth buying...

I can't help with that - I only owned the later 5 element version for a time.

This earlier one is a simple triplet variant with a cemented front group. I wouldn't expect any sharpness records. But as long as you don't pay more than $30-40 it's hard to go wrong.

OP WideCircle New Member • Posts: 8
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Yeah I've seen some really good imagery taken with the Jupiter lenses.
It's harder to find good reviews or tests for the Göttinger lenses & for the ones I've seen it doesn't look like the Göttinger lenses are of the same quality as the Jupiter ones.
I realize that you only get part of the "story" because much of it has to do with the photographer and so on but still...

Niklas

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http://forum.mflenses.com/different-faces-of-isco-goettingen-westanar-3-5-135mm-t67009.html

http://forum.mflenses.com/isco-goettingen-tele-westanar-13-5-135mm-m42-t49537.html

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OP WideCircle New Member • Posts: 8
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@Lightshow

Ah - nice!
Thank you for those links.
Those images actually look quite nice...
Niklas

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WideCircle wrote:

@Lightshow

Ah - nice!
Thank you for those links.
Those images actually look quite nice...
Niklas

But if I'm not mistaken, all the sample images were taken with newer 5/4 versions, not a single one with the older 4/3. It might have completely different characteristics.

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