Sony, Canon or Nikon FF MILC?

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NotAPhotog Regular Member • Posts: 441
Sony, Canon or Nikon FF MILC?

I started shooting with an A6000, bought a used M100 just so I could use the 22mm f/2 and finally bought a D750. D750 was an excellent camera but was quite heavy with f/2.8 zoom lenses so I sold it. I also missed nailing focus on every single shot like I did with my A6000.

Right now I think the two year old A7III is the best value for money as it has excellent AF and the most lenses.

However after using my A6000, I am hesitant to go back to Sony ergonomics/UI, even if I feel that the AF has made shooting a lot easier.

That leaves Canon and Nikon. I definitely prefer Nikon's bodies especially the Z5 but I like what Canon has done with RF lenses.

I shoot mainly portraits and family snapshots.

What brand or body would.you recommend?

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ChelseaPhotographer
ChelseaPhotographer Senior Member • Posts: 1,000
Re: Sony, Canon or Nikon FF MILC?

NotAPhotog wrote:

I started shooting with an A6000, bought a used M100 just so I could use the 22mm f/2 and finally bought a D750. D750 was an excellent camera but was quite heavy with f/2.8 zoom lenses so I sold it. I also missed nailing focus on every single shot like I did with my A6000.

Right now I think the two year old A7III is the best value for money as it has excellent AF and the most lenses.

However after using my A6000, I am hesitant to go back to Sony ergonomics/UI, even if I feel that the AF has made shooting a lot easier.

That leaves Canon and Nikon. I definitely prefer Nikon's bodies especially the Z5 but I like what Canon has done with RF lenses.

I shoot mainly portraits and family snapshots.

What brand or body would.you recommend?

I would go with the Z5 mostly because I think it is great value for money. If money were no object, I would go with either the Z7II or the R5

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The Lamentable Lens Contributing Member • Posts: 700
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NotAPhotog wrote:

I started shooting with an A6000, bought a used M100 just so I could use the 22mm f/2 and finally bought a D750. D750 was an excellent camera but was quite heavy with f/2.8 zoom lenses so I sold it. I also missed nailing focus on every single shot like I did with my A6000.

Right now I think the two year old A7III is the best value for money as it has excellent AF and the most lenses.

However after using my A6000, I am hesitant to go back to Sony ergonomics/UI, even if I feel that the AF has made shooting a lot easier.

That leaves Canon and Nikon. I definitely prefer Nikon's bodies especially the Z5 but I like what Canon has done with RF lenses.

I shoot mainly portraits and family snapshots.

What brand or body would.you recommend?

I went through this same analysis, and narrowed it down to Sony vs. Nikon.  At the time, neither the Z5 nor the R5/R6 had been announced.

I don't care about brand -- I have cameras from three different brands -- but I chose Sony because of the lens ecosystem.  To be clear, I really didn't care for Sony's ergonomics (I have the A7R3, which is a bit different, but still kind of stinks on ergos).  But you get used to the body, and you don't really need the full menu system once you set everything up.  I think of it as buying into a lens system, and then backing into the body that best fits my needs.  And the Sony system offers just a ton of native lens options, including all the excellent third party lenses.

The Z5 does offer a tremendous value.  It's several hundred dollars cheaper than the A7iii, and you get better ergonomics, a better EVF, a proper touch screen, and comparable IQ.  Of course that math may change quickly when you start to consider lenses.  And the A7iii, despite being a couple of years older, still offers a dual gain sensor, faster burst shooting, better video, and longer battery life.

In the end, of course, you can't go wrong with any of the three major brands.  Their latest cameras are capable of doing far more than most of us need -- they all take great photos.  So I think it's just a matter of setting a budget, looking at the lens systems, and then backing into the body that makes the most sense given your photography needs.

Good luck, and enjoy whatever you choose!

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beagle1 Forum Pro • Posts: 11,330
Re: Sony, Canon or Nikon FF MILC?
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NotAPhotog wrote:

I started shooting with an A6000, bought a used M100 just so I could use the 22mm f/2 and finally bought a D750. D750 was an excellent camera but was quite heavy with f/2.8 zoom lenses so I sold it. I also missed nailing focus on every single shot like I did with my A6000.

Right now I think the two year old A7III is the best value for money as it has excellent AF and the most lenses.

However after using my A6000, I am hesitant to go back to Sony ergonomics/UI, even if I feel that the AF has made shooting a lot easier.

That leaves Canon and Nikon. I definitely prefer Nikon's bodies especially the Z5 but I like what Canon has done with RF lenses.

I shoot mainly portraits and family snapshots.

What brand or body would.you recommend?

Canon R5 or R6 is now the "best"  --  especially with RF lenses

might depend on what lenses you still have

The Lamentable Lens Contributing Member • Posts: 700
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beagle1 wrote:

NotAPhotog wrote:

I started shooting with an A6000, bought a used M100 just so I could use the 22mm f/2 and finally bought a D750. D750 was an excellent camera but was quite heavy with f/2.8 zoom lenses so I sold it. I also missed nailing focus on every single shot like I did with my A6000.

Right now I think the two year old A7III is the best value for money as it has excellent AF and the most lenses.

However after using my A6000, I am hesitant to go back to Sony ergonomics/UI, even if I feel that the AF has made shooting a lot easier.

That leaves Canon and Nikon. I definitely prefer Nikon's bodies especially the Z5 but I like what Canon has done with RF lenses.

I shoot mainly portraits and family snapshots.

What brand or body would.you recommend?

Canon R5 or R6 is now the "best" -- especially with RF lenses

might depend on what lenses you still have

The problem with trying to identify the "best" camera body is that it is (1) inherently subjective, and (2) inevitably temporary. The "best" -- whatever that means to any given photographer -- is only the "best" until the next one comes along, and that could be from another manufacturer.

Of course, if one prefers the RF lenses, then certainly the R5/R6 are great choices if they fit the budget.

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ChelseaPhotographer
ChelseaPhotographer Senior Member • Posts: 1,000
Re: Sony, Canon or Nikon FF MILC?
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The Lamentable Lens wrote:

NotAPhotog wrote:

I started shooting with an A6000, bought a used M100 just so I could use the 22mm f/2 and finally bought a D750. D750 was an excellent camera but was quite heavy with f/2.8 zoom lenses so I sold it. I also missed nailing focus on every single shot like I did with my A6000.

Right now I think the two year old A7III is the best value for money as it has excellent AF and the most lenses.

However after using my A6000, I am hesitant to go back to Sony ergonomics/UI, even if I feel that the AF has made shooting a lot easier.

That leaves Canon and Nikon. I definitely prefer Nikon's bodies especially the Z5 but I like what Canon has done with RF lenses.

I shoot mainly portraits and family snapshots.

What brand or body would.you recommend?

I went through this same analysis, and narrowed it down to Sony vs. Nikon. At the time, neither the Z5 nor the R5/R6 had been announced.

I don't care about brand -- I have cameras from three different brands -- but I chose Sony because of the lens ecosystem. To be clear, I really didn't care for Sony's ergonomics (I have the A7R3, which is a bit different, but still kind of stinks on ergos). But you get used to the body, and you don't really need the full menu system once you set everything up. I think of it as buying into a lens system, and then backing into the body that best fits my needs. And the Sony system offers just a ton of native lens options, including all the excellent third party lenses.

The Z5 does offer a tremendous value. It's several hundred dollars cheaper than the A7iii, and you get better ergonomics, a better EVF, a proper touch screen, and comparable IQ. Of course that math may change quickly when you start to consider lenses. And the A7iii, despite being a couple of years older, still offers a dual gain sensor, faster burst shooting, better video, and longer battery life.

In the end, of course, you can't go wrong with any of the three major brands. Their latest cameras are capable of doing far more than most of us need -- they all take great photos. So I think it's just a matter of setting a budget, looking at the lens systems, and then backing into the body that makes the most sense given your photography needs.

Good luck, and enjoy whatever you choose!

well said!

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robgendreau Veteran Member • Posts: 8,551
Re: Sony, Canon or Nikon FF MILC?

NotAPhotog wrote:

I started shooting with an A6000, bought a used M100 just so I could use the 22mm f/2 and finally bought a D750. D750 was an excellent camera but was quite heavy with f/2.8 zoom lenses so I sold it. I also missed nailing focus on every single shot like I did with my A6000.

Right now I think the two year old A7III is the best value for money as it has excellent AF and the most lenses.

However after using my A6000, I am hesitant to go back to Sony ergonomics/UI, even if I feel that the AF has made shooting a lot easier.

That leaves Canon and Nikon. I definitely prefer Nikon's bodies especially the Z5 but I like what Canon has done with RF lenses.

I shoot mainly portraits and family snapshots.

What brand or body would.you recommend?

If the D750 was too heavy then I'm not sure that the other full frame mirrorless cameras are going to be much better. Yes, a 7iii body is lighter by 200g. But once you add on a full frame lens, that difference is even less significant.

So I'd look at a lens or two you can live with, and if you want to go full frame, that means probably a prime if you want to be anywhere near having lighter weight and bulk, but still with some low light capability.

The Canon RP is one of the light FFs out there, at 485g, so even lighter than the A7iii by a bunch. Add the new plastic fantastic RF 50mm 1.8 or an excellent RF 35mm 1.8 and you've got a super light and affordable kit, maybe the lightest you can get with FF. Although I'd check the A7c as well if you liked the A6000 ergonomics, but I don't know enough about Sony lenses to know if they've got some light ones.

And the D750 has great AF by all accounts. Some say the best Nikon has, and it's used by many wildlife and sports shooters. So I'm not sure why it didn't work for you. I dunno about the A6000, but perhaps there's a reason besides the camera that's happening, and so don't think a new one will change things per se.

Cato1040
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Re: Sony, Canon or Nikon FF MILC?

The A7III's ergonomics are IMO significantly better than the A6000's.

The Z5 is a great value, but when taking lenses into account too, the A7III with most combinations will probably be the better value.

Canon also has good options though you'd probably be spending more for bodies and lenses.

It does depend on what lenses you'd want though.

As a system, I'm most confident in Canon and Sony's future so that could be something to consider too.

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jkokura Regular Member • Posts: 114
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I shoot Nikon now, and I'm very happy as a Nikon shooter. I'm not worried about their future as a company, and I believe that we'll see 3rd Party lens development for the Z mount in the future. Given that, I believe that Canon is a stronger company right now, their lens lineup is a little fuller, and we can expect that they will continue to put out good stuff in the future.

In terms of Image Quality, I went with Nikon because I was certain that the IQ I could get at the price point I could afford was the best available. Nikon has a reputation as having the best in colour and the Z mount bodies tend to continue that trend. The quality of Nikon Z mount glass is also top notch, and while the variety isn't necessarily there yet, they will continue to develop and grow their lens line, and their lenses will continue the trend of being some of the best in the business.

If I could afford the Z7II and the 'trinity' lenses, I would choose that setup over the R5 and it's lenses. I recognize that for many the body of the R5 and the autofocus is better, but in the end the images are what matters to me.

Given also that the Z5 currently doesn't really have a competitor from Canon, I would also not hesitate to recommend the Z5 and a the 24-200 for an all-in-one mirrorless setup over the RP or A7ii or A7c.

But remember, I'm biased because I shoot Nikon and don't have experience with Canon, so there's that.

Jacob

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