16 mm and 10-24?

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Jacaustin Forum Member • Posts: 99
16 mm and 10-24?

I guess I should make a footer and put this in, but for reference, I have the 16 f1.4, 35 f2.0, 50 f 2.0, 90 f2.0, 16-80, 18-55, 11 mm extension tube, and I have the 10-24 version II on order.

I’m debating whether I should I keep the 16 mm F1.4 once the 10-24 arrives.  It’s currently my fastest lens, so I would probably need to look elsewhere for another F1 .4 for low light. Maybe the new 18, or the 23? Those focal lengths would be a little more versatile than the 16 mm to me.

Its also my closest focusing wide-ish  lens, but I’ve realized don’t take advantage of that great quality very often in my shooting.

For those who own the 10-24, except for low light scenarios, would I get noticeably superior image quality at f 4.0, f5.6 or f8 using the 16 mm 1.4 compared to the 10-24?

Who owns both lenses and has chosen to keep both?

Erik Baumgartner Senior Member • Posts: 3,655
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Jacaustin wrote:

I guess I should make a footer and put this in, but for reference, I have the 16 f1.4, 35 f2.0, 50 f 2.0, 90 f2.0, 16-80, 18-55, 11 mm extension tube, and I have the 10-24 version II on order.

I’m debating whether I should I keep the 16 mm F1.4 once the 10-24 arrives. It’s currently my fastest lens, so I would probably need to look elsewhere for another F1 .4 for low light. Maybe the new 18, or the 23? Those focal lengths would be a little more versatile than the 16 mm to me.

Its also my closest focusing wide-ish lens, but I’ve realized don’t take advantage of that great quality very often in my shooting.

For those who own the 10-24, except for low light scenarios, would I get noticeably superior image quality at f 4.0, f5.6 or f8 using the 16 mm 1.4 compared to the 10-24?

Who owns both lenses and has chosen to keep both?

Judging by the 16 f/1.4s I've had, (2), and the one 10-24, the 16s were definitely better than the 10-24 at 16mm at any common aperture, especially in the corners. Of course, the 10-24 was much better at any other focal length. The 10-24 is definitely best at its wide end.

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fujiian
fujiian Contributing Member • Posts: 512
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FWIW, my “lens acquisition endgame” features both the 10-24 and the 16 1.4; they just do so much differently, and judging by the mark I lens, the sharpness contest goes easily to the prime.

However, if you do get rid of it and need a low light lens, might I recommend the 35 1.4? It’s got a low element count which gives you (roughly & in my limited testing) about a ⅓ to ½ stop bump in light gathering over the 16.

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OP Jacaustin Forum Member • Posts: 99
Re: 16 mm and 10-24?

I appreciate the opinions! I’ve had my eye on the 35 f1.4 for a long time, but I have exclusively purchased updated WR lenses, so I have been patiently hoping for a refresh… The 10-24 II has been on the same list...

McWoodley
McWoodley Regular Member • Posts: 403
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Why would you sell the 16 1.4?  I don't own the 16 1.4 but do own the 10-24 and I do like the it.  However I suspect the 16 1.4 is sharper and has better micro contrast.  It is widely considered one of Fuji's best lenses.  I have several lenses that overlap in focal lengths but shine in certain situations.  Whether it is because they are fast, they have good bokeh, or they have great contrast rendering.  Unless money is an issue I would say keep both.  I think you will find there are situations you prefer your 16 and other times the 10-24.

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OP Jacaustin Forum Member • Posts: 99
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I think you’re right. I have some arbitrary threshold for “too much gear,” so I try to prune as I add.

My subconscious goal seems to be to have the least amount of gear to meet my needs. I am outgrowing my current camera bag too.

i’ve debated getting rid of the 18-55 as well, though I think the size is brilliant when you still need flexibility. When I upgrade to an XH-2 or XT-5 I’ll probably glue it on my XT-2 for my son to use.

pdxa4 Regular Member • Posts: 192
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I'm considering a 16mm F1.4 right now,I do have a 10-24mm 1st gen which I enjoy using on occasions, but it is limited in lower light. I also have a 23mm f2 which is super compact. I'm thinking that the 16mm would give me more option for street photography and landscapes.

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baobob
baobob Forum Pro • Posts: 16,153
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F 5.6 is the sweat spot of the lens apart at 24mm where f8 is recommended see below the link

https://www.lenstip.com/413.4-Lens_review-Fujifilm_Fujinon_XF_10-24_mm_f_4R_OIS_Image_resolution.html

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biza43 Forum Pro • Posts: 13,506
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These are very different lenses, as you know. They are not interchangeable in their applications. Normally, a good lens to complement a slow zoom is a fast prime somewhere in the middle of the range. In case you need the speed of the lens when shooting in lower light levels.

For example, take the 35 f/1.4, it is good to complement a standard zoom like the 16-80, 16-55, or 18-55. So, the 16 f/1.4 is a good complement to the slow 10-24.

The key question: do you need such a complement? Only you can answer.

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DarnGoodPhotos Forum Pro • Posts: 10,922
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The 16f1.4 is one of Fuji's best lenses; hard to imagine a 10-24 zoom can equal it.

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OP Jacaustin Forum Member • Posts: 99
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Thanks for the link!

JAC

Greg7579
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Yes
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You absolutely should keep it.  It is your best lens!

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OP Jacaustin Forum Member • Posts: 99
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I don’t know... the 90 2.0 brings the magic every time...

surfoxy
surfoxy Regular Member • Posts: 496
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I have both and I bought the 10-24 on what sounded like good advice here before a European trip in the summer of 2019. I didn’t use it that much and haven’t used it since. I just don’t seem to make my best images with the wider field of view. The 16 f1.4 is a unique, versatile, sharp and interesting lens for me.

But honestly these are totally personal views, and the only way you’re going to know after having them both for a while.Prune your gear, but don’t be in a hurry. It will become obvious with use.

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OP Jacaustin Forum Member • Posts: 99
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Good advice Chris. I’ll live with both for a while before pruning.

dht Regular Member • Posts: 249
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The 10-24 is a super useful lens, with great focal length flexibility. Image quality is exceptional for a zoom. But yes, with an f4.0 max aperture, there are situations when the 1.4 of the 16mm definitely makes a difference. If you're looking to minimize gear or save money, the 10-24 is enough, but if you are willing to keep more gear, you will be rewarded with the 16mm 1.4

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pdxa4 Regular Member • Posts: 192
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pdxa4 wrote:

I'm considering a 16mm F1.4 right now,I do have a 10-24mm 1st gen which I enjoy using on occasions, but it is limited in lower light. I also have a 23mm f2 which is super compact. I'm thinking that the 16mm would give me more option for street photography and landscapes.

I said screw it "life is too short" today. I went ahead and ordered the 16mm and the optional lens hood from B&H

bring on the fun !

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OP Jacaustin Forum Member • Posts: 99
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Nice! It’s a phenomenal lens. Close focus ability at 16mm is awesome for macro-y photos. It’s a very useful FL for environmental portraits. Fast enough for legit bokeh despite being somewhat wide.

Pruning be damned... I’m keeping it!

a_c_skinner Forum Pro • Posts: 10,941
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I cannot comment on the 10-24 and for once I will refrain from joining in.  When I saw the gear list I rather thought the 18-55 could go too.

My main point is there is a "too much gear" threshold.  I think I've passed it.  (14/2.8, 23/2, 27/2.8, 35/1.4, 50/2.8, 80/2.8 plus the 16-55 and 55-200.)  You get to a point when the gear is a barrier not a facilitator.

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OP Jacaustin Forum Member • Posts: 99
Re: 16 mm and 10-24?

Agreed. I can always think of a specific use case where I might use a particular lens, but the proof, as they say, is in the pudding. My 18-55 has a layer of dust on it.

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