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What's up with the g100 specs?

Started Nov 12, 2020 | Discussions
jhunna Senior Member • Posts: 2,738
Re: GX8-lite

Tom Caldwell wrote:

The GX8 mob wanted an update - this surely is it.

Not even close as its answering questions we didn't ask.

A GX8M2 needed only G9 internals and a modern port array (USB-C,3.5Mic, and Headphone).  You want to see the really GX8 M2 look at the Sony A7C.

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victorav Senior Member • Posts: 2,751
Re: What's up with the g100 specs?

... or you know, the actual truth, that they both offer really good ibis.

Rens
Rens Senior Member • Posts: 1,987
Re: What's up with the g100 specs?
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b00mer wrote:

This camera was almost exactly what I was hoping Panasonic was going to create. Coming from a g85 this was going to be more my speed. Smaller, lighter, compact, updated. I skipped the g7 because I thought IBIS was a killer feature, but after much personal use I find it barely affects my photography and rarely is strong enough to provide better video experience. I'm just not sold on it, personally.

Yet this latest rendition is simply a half-attempt from them. Where is proper shutter speed, quality 1080 slow-mo, uncropped 4k? I would have flipped right over to this instead of moving to a larger and higher level camera.

I really don't understand why so many market essentials were held back. I feel like Panasonic simply gave up and threw in the towel on this. It's almost silly because now we see markets for compact full frame, fixed lens full frame all in the name of convenience while keeping up with substance. This camera is such a disappointment when it seems it could have easily been something more. Sorry for the rant...

Panasonic have pushed the G100 as a vlogging camera, and all the reviews I've read have agreed with the above critism to varying extents.

I never use video.  I bought mine as a compact stills camera, small enough to go in a jacket pocket, especially with the retractable 12-32 lens (which I already had).

After a year with my previous G9 I found I much preferred the 20 mp sensor over the 16 mp version, not because of the extra resolution but because the images were less digital and more natural to my eyes.  But never using video, AF for following action, or high frames per second, it was  unnecessarily large and heavy for my needs.

So I sold it and bought a Canon RP (very small FF body with the fully articulating screen I won't do without) and a couple of (big and heavy) f4 zooms. I'm very happy with these when weight isn't a problem.

For walking the steep slopes to the moors, it's heavier than the G9 plus lenses.  But the G100 with its 20 mp sensor and a tiny lens makes an ideal hill walking camera. Ibis would have been nice, but I'm generally pretty steady; I have the unstabilized Olympus 8-18, also small and retractable and use it without problems.

Considering Panasonic is pitching it at vloggers, it's weird that it has compromised video and no IBIS.

But it's compactness, light weight, recent 20 mp sensor, and fully articulating screen make it ideal for me. I'm really happy with mine.

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Samuel Dilworth
Samuel Dilworth Senior Member • Posts: 1,391
Re: It’s a parts-bin camera

Richandhiscat wrote:

What previous camera had the microphone and sound system ?

What previous camera had the EVF ?

I thought the viewfinder had been lifted from the G9 but apparently not. Good point about the mic set-up and audio processing too. So Panasonic did do something new for this camera.

Rens
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Re: GX8-lite
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Tom Caldwell wrote:

So they make a stop gap brand new camera out of parts on the shelf and it is too large for the GM market, too close in size to the GX9, too side hinged for still shooters to even consider ignoring the rest of the video crazy design. Too underperforming for the real video users.

I've just seen this; a stills shooter myself, I won't do without the 'too side hinged' screen ever again.

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Kgluong Regular Member • Posts: 341
Re: What's up with the g100 specs?

b00mer wrote:

This camera was almost exactly what I was hoping Panasonic was going to create. Coming from a g85 this was going to be more my speed. Smaller, lighter, compact, updated. I skipped the g7 because I thought IBIS was a killer feature, but after much personal use I find it barely affects my photography and rarely is strong enough to provide better video experience. I'm just not sold on it, personally.

Yet this latest rendition is simply a half-attempt from them. Where is proper shutter speed, quality 1080 slow-mo, uncropped 4k? I would have flipped right over to this instead of moving to a larger and higher level camera.

I really don't understand why so many market essentials were held back. I feel like Panasonic simply gave up and threw in the towel on this. It's almost silly because now we see markets for compact full frame, fixed lens full frame all in the name of convenience while keeping up with substance. This camera is such a disappointment when it seems it could have easily been something more. Sorry for the rant...

It designed for vlogging. Ibis is not needed because vlogging used gimbal. Vblogging don't used slow-mo and such.

https://youtu.be/njKwI-MU76Y

MacOrneille Regular Member • Posts: 282
Re: What's up with the g100 specs?

AlmostDoctor wrote:

Dual IS can get close, but it doesn't work with any of the primes or ultrawide zoom (Lumix 7-14mm) since they have no OIS.

Dual IS works with the 45mm Macro and Nocticron.

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victorav wrote:

... or you know, the actual truth, that they both offer really good ibis.

Evaluating the effectiveness of IS is really quite hard. Speaking personally, I never push my exposure times to the extent that I notice the difference between the various forms of IS on my cameras. I just get pleasantly surprised when I think I pushed the envelope a bit far and the shots come out sharp. I can't say that one camera has pleasantly surprised me any more than another.

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Re: What's up with the g100 specs?

MacOrneille wrote:

AlmostDoctor wrote:

Dual IS can get close, but it doesn't work with any of the primes or ultrawide zoom (Lumix 7-14mm) since they have no OIS.

Dual IS works with the 45mm Macro and Nocticron.

I also get Dual IS with my P42.5 and the P30mm. Are they a different sort or prime?

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Re: What's up with the g100 specs?

MacOrneille wrote:

AlmostDoctor wrote:

Dual IS can get close, but it doesn't work with any of the primes or ultrawide zoom (Lumix 7-14mm) since they have no OIS.

Dual IS works with the 45mm Macro and Nocticron.

I think this is the complete list of Pan primes that support Dual I.S.

- Pan Lumix Macro 30 f/2.8

- Pan Lumix 42.5 f/1.7

- Pan Leica Nocticron 42.5 f/1.2

- Pan Leica Macro Elmarit 45 f/2.8

- Pan Leica Elmarit, 200mm, F2.8

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