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Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

Started Nov 8, 2020 | Discussions
stevvi Contributing Member • Posts: 829
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

Aldaia wrote:

First frame (focused manually):

How do you manually focus?

Last frame (automatic focusing):

And how do you switch to automatic focusing?

When I tried to focus bracket with manual focus, the focus didn't advance. All images where the same. I had to rely on auto-focus.

The result was nice anyway. But I was interested in selectively focusing the starting point using focus peaking.

Thanks in advance.

If you use back button focusing, or just take focusing off the shutter button, you should be able to leave the lens on AF but focus it manually and then hit the shutter without mucking it all up.

 stevvi's gear list:stevvi's gear list
Canon EOS R Canon EOS R5 Canon RF 24-105mm F4L IS USM Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM Canon RF 24-70mm F2.8L IS USM +4 more
Aldaia Forum Member • Posts: 79
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

JoeSchmoe007 wrote:

Aldaia wrote:

First frame (focused manually):

How do you manually focus?

Last frame (automatic focusing):

And how do you switch to automatic focusing?

When I tried to focus bracket with manual focus, the focus didn't advance. All images where the same. I had to rely on auto-focus.

The result was nice anyway. But I was interested in selectively focusing the starting point using focus peaking.

Thanks in advance.

I can see how what I said is misleading but I cannot edit original post anymore.

It should have said: "First frame was focused by selecting specific focus point on display". Camera and lens were always in auto-focus mode.

That is what I was doing.

However in the example below I was trying to focus in the extreme point of the aircraft but failed. Had to put a ruler on a side, focus there and then crop it.

Never the less the images are razor sharp. My older pictures of model aircraft never get more than one 3rd in focus. Now my problem is that all defects and dirt are visible, lol.

14 images focus stacked.

 Aldaia's gear list:Aldaia's gear list
Canon RF 24-105mm F4.0-7.1 IS STM Canon EOS RP Canon EF 50mm F1.8 II Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS USM +1 more
Aldaia Forum Member • Posts: 79
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

stevvi wrote:

Aldaia wrote:

First frame (focused manually):

How do you manually focus?

Last frame (automatic focusing):

And how do you switch to automatic focusing?

When I tried to focus bracket with manual focus, the focus didn't advance. All images where the same. I had to rely on auto-focus.

The result was nice anyway. But I was interested in selectively focusing the starting point using focus peaking.

Thanks in advance.

If you use back button focusing, or just take focusing off the shutter button, you should be able to leave the lens on AF but focus it manually and then hit the shutter without mucking it all up.

Thanks, will try that. However, with RF 24-105 4-7.1 it may be a bit annoying. The lens doesn't have a manual focus switch. It has to be switched on camera navigating through the menus.

The camera is not even 3 days old. Learning something every day.

 Aldaia's gear list:Aldaia's gear list
Canon RF 24-105mm F4.0-7.1 IS STM Canon EOS RP Canon EF 50mm F1.8 II Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS USM +1 more
OP JoeSchmoe007 Contributing Member • Posts: 502
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

Thanks, will try that. However, with RF 24-105 4-7.1 it may be a bit annoying. The lens doesn't have a manual focus switch. It has to be switched on camera navigating through the menus.

The camera is not even 3 days old. Learning something every day.

Yes, I am still learning all the features myself. I added shortcut to  AF/MF switch to my Custom menu tab

OP JoeSchmoe007 Contributing Member • Posts: 502
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

Aldaia wrote:

JoeSchmoe007 wrote:

Aldaia wrote:

First frame (focused manually):

How do you manually focus?

Last frame (automatic focusing):

And how do you switch to automatic focusing?

When I tried to focus bracket with manual focus, the focus didn't advance. All images where the same. I had to rely on auto-focus.

The result was nice anyway. But I was interested in selectively focusing the starting point using focus peaking.

Thanks in advance.

I can see how what I said is misleading but I cannot edit original post anymore.

It should have said: "First frame was focused by selecting specific focus point on display". Camera and lens were always in auto-focus mode.

That is what I was doing.

However in the example below I was trying to focus in the extreme point of the aircraft but failed. Had to put a ruler on a side, focus there and then crop it.

Never the less the images are razor sharp. My older pictures of model aircraft never get more than one 3rd in focus. Now my problem is that all defects and dirt are visible, lol.

14 images focus stacked.

You can't use a ruler! I have a patent on using a ruler for focus stacking. That will be $20 for each use.

Have you tried switching autofocus to Spot AF to focus on the front extreme point?

stevvi Contributing Member • Posts: 829
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

Aldaia wrote:

stevvi wrote:

Aldaia wrote:

First frame (focused manually):

How do you manually focus?

Last frame (automatic focusing):

And how do you switch to automatic focusing?

When I tried to focus bracket with manual focus, the focus didn't advance. All images where the same. I had to rely on auto-focus.

The result was nice anyway. But I was interested in selectively focusing the starting point using focus peaking.

Thanks in advance.

If you use back button focusing, or just take focusing off the shutter button, you should be able to leave the lens on AF but focus it manually and then hit the shutter without mucking it all up.

Thanks, will try that. However, with RF 24-105 4-7.1 it may be a bit annoying. The lens doesn't have a manual focus switch. It has to be switched on camera navigating through the menus.

The camera is not even 3 days old. Learning something every day.

On the R5 I have the DoF button set to disengage AF when depressed, or whatever the technical term is, which allows manual focus.

 stevvi's gear list:stevvi's gear list
Canon EOS R Canon EOS R5 Canon RF 24-105mm F4L IS USM Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM Canon RF 24-70mm F2.8L IS USM +4 more
Aldaia Forum Member • Posts: 79
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

JoeSchmoe007 wrote:

Aldaia wrote:

JoeSchmoe007 wrote:

Aldaia wrote:

First frame (focused manually):

How do you manually focus?

Last frame (automatic focusing):

And how do you switch to automatic focusing?

When I tried to focus bracket with manual focus, the focus didn't advance. All images where the same. I had to rely on auto-focus.

The result was nice anyway. But I was interested in selectively focusing the starting point using focus peaking.

Thanks in advance.

I can see how what I said is misleading but I cannot edit original post anymore.

It should have said: "First frame was focused by selecting specific focus point on display". Camera and lens were always in auto-focus mode.

That is what I was doing.

However in the example below I was trying to focus in the extreme point of the aircraft but failed. Had to put a ruler on a side, focus there and then crop it.

Never the less the images are razor sharp. My older pictures of model aircraft never get more than one 3rd in focus. Now my problem is that all defects and dirt are visible, lol.

14 images focus stacked.

You can't use a ruler! I have a patent on using a ruler for focus stacking. That will be $20 for each use.

Your ruler is stainless steel and graduated in inches. According to my lawyers, patent is not covering cheap plastic metric rulers

Have you tried switching autofocus to Spot AF to focus on the front extreme point?

Yep, apparently was too thin to focus on, it either focused a little bit back (where the cone starts to widen) or failed to focus. I tried that with low light, will try again with better light.

 Aldaia's gear list:Aldaia's gear list
Canon RF 24-105mm F4.0-7.1 IS STM Canon EOS RP Canon EF 50mm F1.8 II Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS USM +1 more
OP JoeSchmoe007 Contributing Member • Posts: 502
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

Have you tried switching autofocus to Spot AF to focus on the front extreme point?

Yep, apparently was too thin to focus on, it either focused a little bit back (where the cone starts to widen) or failed to focus. I tried that with low light, will try again with better light.

I may have found a solution, it is "Lens Electronic MF" setting on Shooting main tab (the first one), secondary tab Shoot8.

It is described on page 200 of Advanced Users Guide (PDF with 612 pages).

Default is "Disable after One-Shot"

Change it to "One-Shot->enabled (magnify)" ("One-Shot->enabled" will work too but the "magnify" is more useful in this case)

Make sure your Focus/Control switch is set to Focus on the lens and Focus Bracketing is enabled.

Press shutter button halfway, it will auto-focus wherever (pick the point where it is able to autofocus on the screen).

While still holding shutter button you can now rotate focus ring to manually focus on the desired point.

Fully press shutter to take a picture.

I tested this as far as this started Focus Bracketing and took multiple shots. I have not inspected them or tried to compose in DPP.

Aldaia Forum Member • Posts: 79
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

JoeSchmoe007 wrote:

Have you tried switching autofocus to Spot AF to focus on the front extreme point?

Yep, apparently was too thin to focus on, it either focused a little bit back (where the cone starts to widen) or failed to focus. I tried that with low light, will try again with better light.

I may have found a solution, it is "Lens Electronic MF" setting on Shooting main tab (the first one), secondary tab Shoot8.

It is described on page 200 of Advanced Users Guide (PDF with 612 pages).

Default is "Disable after One-Shot"

Change it to "One-Shot->enabled (magnify)" ("One-Shot->enabled" will work too but the "magnify" is more useful in this case)

Make sure your Focus/Control switch is set to Focus on the lens and Focus Bracketing is enabled.

Press shutter button halfway, it will auto-focus wherever (pick the point where it is able to autofocus on the screen).

While still holding shutter button you can now rotate focus ring to manually focus on the desired point.

Fully press shutter to take a picture.

I tested this as far as this started Focus Bracketing and took multiple shots. I have not inspected them or tried to compose in DPP.

Great finding. Will try tomorrow.

Have the .pdf but didn't read carefully yet.

 Aldaia's gear list:Aldaia's gear list
Canon RF 24-105mm F4.0-7.1 IS STM Canon EOS RP Canon EF 50mm F1.8 II Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS USM +1 more
Aldaia Forum Member • Posts: 79
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!
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Aldaia wrote:

JoeSchmoe007 wrote:

Have you tried switching autofocus to Spot AF to focus on the front extreme point?

Yep, apparently was too thin to focus on, it either focused a little bit back (where the cone starts to widen) or failed to focus. I tried that with low light, will try again with better light.

I may have found a solution, it is "Lens Electronic MF" setting on Shooting main tab (the first one), secondary tab Shoot8.

It is described on page 200 of Advanced Users Guide (PDF with 612 pages).

Default is "Disable after One-Shot"

Change it to "One-Shot->enabled (magnify)" ("One-Shot->enabled" will work too but the "magnify" is more useful in this case)

Make sure your Focus/Control switch is set to Focus on the lens and Focus Bracketing is enabled.

Press shutter button halfway, it will auto-focus wherever (pick the point where it is able to autofocus on the screen).

While still holding shutter button you can now rotate focus ring to manually focus on the desired point.

Fully press shutter to take a picture.

I tested this as far as this started Focus Bracketing and took multiple shots. I have not inspected them or tried to compose in DPP.

Great finding. Will try tomorrow.

Have the .pdf but didn't read carefully yet.

Tested. Definitely works. In fact for focus bracketing I focused just a tiny bit in front of the desired point, something that is not possible in any other way.

Actually I think that I'll let the camera to "One-Shot->enabled" by default. That way it is always in AF mode but can override any time without tinkering with menus. Don't care anymore about the missing AF-MF switch on the lens.

 Aldaia's gear list:Aldaia's gear list
Canon RF 24-105mm F4.0-7.1 IS STM Canon EOS RP Canon EF 50mm F1.8 II Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM Canon EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 IS USM +1 more
JustUs7 Senior Member • Posts: 4,327
Re: Focus Bracketing is like magic on EOS RP with the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 IS STM lens!!!

Aldaia wrote:

Aldaia wrote:

JoeSchmoe007 wrote:

Have you tried switching autofocus to Spot AF to focus on the front extreme point?

Yep, apparently was too thin to focus on, it either focused a little bit back (where the cone starts to widen) or failed to focus. I tried that with low light, will try again with better light.

I may have found a solution, it is "Lens Electronic MF" setting on Shooting main tab (the first one), secondary tab Shoot8.

It is described on page 200 of Advanced Users Guide (PDF with 612 pages).

Default is "Disable after One-Shot"

Change it to "One-Shot->enabled (magnify)" ("One-Shot->enabled" will work too but the "magnify" is more useful in this case)

Make sure your Focus/Control switch is set to Focus on the lens and Focus Bracketing is enabled.

Press shutter button halfway, it will auto-focus wherever (pick the point where it is able to autofocus on the screen).

While still holding shutter button you can now rotate focus ring to manually focus on the desired point.

Fully press shutter to take a picture.

I tested this as far as this started Focus Bracketing and took multiple shots. I have not inspected them or tried to compose in DPP.

Great finding. Will try tomorrow.

Have the .pdf but didn't read carefully yet.

Tested. Definitely works. In fact for focus bracketing I focused just a tiny bit in front of the desired point, something that is not possible in any other way.

Actually I think that I'll let the camera to "One-Shot->enabled" by default. That way it is always in AF mode but can override any time without tinkering with menus. Don't care anymore about the missing AF-MF switch on the lens.

Directed here from another thread, but this is worth the redirect and resurrection of the thread. I’ll have to try it in the 24-240. The way it reads, it beats mapping the the AF/MF menu item to my green menu, with is what I had been doing.

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