Lens stabilization. Camera stabilization off or on?

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Tom Husband
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Lens stabilization. Camera stabilization off or on?

I just bought the FE 90mm F2.8 Macro G OSS lens. It has built-in image stabilization so if I use that I should turn my a7 III stabilization off right? Or maybe the reverse, use the camera instead of the lens? Or both on?
Of course it's all off when it's on the tripod.

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splashy
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Re: Lens stabilization. Camera stabilization off or on?

On a tripod all stabilization can/should be off.

Out of hands lens ANS camera stabilization do work well tigether.

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There is no way to enable/disable camera and lens stabilization separately.

They are either both enabled or disabled.

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And the camera is designed to use IBIS and ILIS/OSS together for native lenses like that one.

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Tom Husband
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Re: Lens stabilization. Camera stabilization off or on?

SigZero wrote:

There is no way to enable/disable camera and lens stabilization separately.

They are either both enabled or disabled.

Br, Pawel

Really? So turn one on and they're both on? Why even have a switch on the lens?

Tom Husband
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Re: Lens stabilization. Camera stabilization off or on?

splashy wrote:

On a tripod all stabilization can/should be off.

Out of hands lens ANS camera stabilization do work well tigether.

Definitely off with the tripod but with hand held I didn't know both should be on.

Thanks.

Mark Sloe Regular Member • Posts: 440
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Tom Husband wrote:

SigZero wrote:

There is no way to enable/disable camera and lens stabilization separately.

They are either both enabled or disabled.

Br, Pawel

Really? So turn one on and they're both on? Why even have a switch on the lens?

...so you don't have to browse the menu everytime you want to switch it on or off...

why would you want to switch one off and leave the other on?

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Dsnoir
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You do not get a choice, the lens controls all of the stabilisation functions. An easy way to see this is to turn the lens to no stabilisation, and then attempt to turn on the cameras stabilisation, a message will come up " Invalid with this lens"

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Tom Husband wrote:

I just bought the FE 90mm F2.8 Macro G OSS lens. It has built-in image stabilization so if I use that I should turn my a7 III stabilization off right? Or maybe the reverse, use the camera instead of the lens? Or both on?
Of course it's all off when it's on the tripod.

Tom, there’s a heap of threads here that have explained Sony’s implementation of IS. This is a good one. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4388304.

And this image from there shows how they work together.

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Mark Sloe wrote:

Tom Husband wrote:

SigZero wrote:

There is no way to enable/disable camera and lens stabilization separately.

They are either both enabled or disabled.

Br, Pawel

Really? So turn one on and they're both on? Why even have a switch on the lens?

...so you don't have to browse the menu everytime you want to switch it on or off...

why would you want to switch one off and leave the other on?

With native lenses, you would not want to, and cannot. With adapted lenses, I am not convinced that Metabones' implementation of coordinated stabilization is as good as native, but I'm still evaluating that; they give you the choice of none, one, the other, or both. With some adapters, like the Viltrox III, you can also enable both, and they don't cooperate at all, and the result is worse than no stabilization.

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Mark Sloe Regular Member • Posts: 440
Re: Lens stabilization. Camera stabilization off or on?

SQLGuy wrote:

Mark Sloe wrote:

Tom Husband wrote:

SigZero wrote:

There is no way to enable/disable camera and lens stabilization separately.

They are either both enabled or disabled.

Br, Pawel

Really? So turn one on and they're both on? Why even have a switch on the lens?

...so you don't have to browse the menu everytime you want to switch it on or off...

why would you want to switch one off and leave the other on?

With native lenses, you would not want to, and cannot. With adapted lenses, I am not convinced that Metabones' implementation of coordinated stabilization is as good as native, but I'm still evaluating that; they give you the choice of none, one, the other, or both. With some adapters, like the Viltrox III, you can also enable both, and they don't cooperate at all, and the result is worse than no stabilization.

point taken.

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Mike Evangelist
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Tom Husband wrote:

Really? So turn one on and they're both on? Why even have a switch on the lens?

Because the lens can be used on some bodies which don't have built-in stabilization.

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Fotozone Regular Member • Posts: 207
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Thanks everyone on this thread! I learned a number of valuable things I had no idea I needed to know!  T

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Re: Lens stabilization. Camera stabilization off or on?

Mark Sloe wrote:

Tom Husband wrote:

SigZero wrote:

There is no way to enable/disable camera and lens stabilization separately.

They are either both enabled or disabled.

Br, Pawel

Really? So turn one on and they're both on? Why even have a switch on the lens?

...so you don't have to browse the menu everytime you want to switch it on or off...

why would you want to switch one off and leave the other on?

That makes sense. Thanks!

Tom Husband
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Re: Lens stabilization. Camera stabilization off or on?

SQLGuy wrote:

With native lenses, you would not want to, and cannot. With adapted lenses, I am not convinced that Metabones' implementation of coordinated stabilization is as good as native, but I'm still evaluating that; they give you the choice of none, one, the other, or both. With some adapters, like the Viltrox III, you can also enable both, and they don't cooperate at all, and the result is worse than no stabilization.

I guess it's best to stick with Sony if the lens has stabilization.

Thanks

Tom Husband
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Mike Evangelist wrote:

Tom Husband wrote:

Really? So turn one on and they're both on? Why even have a switch on the lens?

Because the lens can be used on some bodies which don't have built-in stabilization.

Of course, I should have realized. Thanks.

Tom Husband
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Dsnoir wrote:

You do not get a choice, the lens controls all of the stabilisation functions. An easy way to see this is to turn the lens to no stabilisation, and then attempt to turn on the cameras stabilisation, a message will come up " Invalid with this lens"

Glad I asked. It's the lens and not the camera that controls stabilization. Thanks.

Tom Husband
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Foto4x4 wrote:

Tom Husband wrote:

I just bought the FE 90mm F2.8 Macro G OSS lens. It has built-in image stabilization so if I use that I should turn my a7 III stabilization off right? Or maybe the reverse, use the camera instead of the lens? Or both on?
Of course it's all off when it's on the tripod.

Tom, there’s a heap of threads here that have explained Sony’s implementation of IS. This is a good one. https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4388304.

Thanks, I should have looked harder.

Tom Husband
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Fotozone wrote:

Thanks everyone on this thread! I learned a number of valuable things I had no idea I needed to know! T

You and me both. Thanks to all.

Brian_Smith
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Re: Lens stabilization. Camera stabilization off or on?

Tom Husband wrote:

I just bought the FE 90mm F2.8 Macro G OSS lens. It has built-in image stabilization so if I use that I should turn my a7 III stabilization off right? Or maybe the reverse, use the camera instead of the lens? Or both on?

Any lens that has a physical OSS Switch will control image stabilization from the lens - not the camera menu. With the FE 90mm Macro mounted on your camera, the SteadyShot Menu setting is grayed out.

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