If the new camera is all that is climed, I AM ALL IN

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breeze_of_wind
breeze_of_wind Senior Member • Posts: 1,340
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With a fist full of Pentax and Sigma lenses, plus the full frame Pentax camera, all I hoped for was a new body for motion phootography -- birds, etc.  They appear to have delivered.  I do not have to move.  A new Pentax camera and a couple of new lenses will do it -- maybe I will even look at the 560mm lens.   Who knows.

I have a simple message -- thank you Pentax.

John Morris

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ozdean
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I think this is a targeted sports/wildlife camera, fast and efficient, aimed at a specific market where Pentax has been lacking in this current era.

We have the K1 series for high grade landscape/astro/stills etc.

K7/KP entry level, good general photography

I think they are on the right track - all can be used in mild mirrorless mode.

All lenses interchangeable & compatible.

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ozdean wrote:

I think this is a targeted sports/wildlife camera, fast and efficient, aimed at a specific market where Pentax has been lacking in this current era.

We have the K1 series for high grade landscape/astro/stills etc.

K7/KP entry level, good general photography

I think they are on the right track - all can be used in mild mirrorless mode.

All lenses interchangeable & compatible.

I agree --- If true, and all signs suggest Yes it is, I think Pentax is making a great move.  I love the K1 and when coupled with the K3 III I will have all I ever wanted from Pentax.

John

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We will see John..

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joelbolden Forum Member • Posts: 86
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I've been using a K-70(with a K-7 backup) for the last 3 years.  Great entry level camera and I've only the standard Pentax complaints with the level of technology(AF, Video etc) To move to the K3MK3 is a no brainer for me. Have the money saved and am waiting for the first reviews.

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John Cal
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breeze_of_wind wrote:

With a fist full of Pentax and Sigma lenses, plus the full frame Pentax camera, all I hoped for was a new body for motion phootography -- birds, etc. They appear to have delivered. I do not have to move. A new Pentax camera and a couple of new lenses will do it -- maybe I will even look at the 560mm lens. Who knows.

I have a simple message -- thank you Pentax.

John Morris

I was hoping that this new camera would have offered a 'play back' mode through the view finder, I dont think it dose so a bit of a let down for me, but traditional DSLR users should be happy with it.

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Phil A Martin
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John Cal wrote:

breeze_of_wind wrote:

With a fist full of Pentax and Sigma lenses, plus the full frame Pentax camera, all I hoped for was a new body for motion phootography -- birds, etc. They appear to have delivered. I do not have to move. A new Pentax camera and a couple of new lenses will do it -- maybe I will even look at the 560mm lens. Who knows.

I have a simple message -- thank you Pentax.

John Morris

I was hoping that this new camera would have offered a 'play back' mode through the view finder, I dont think it dose so a bit of a let down for me, but traditional DSLR users should be happy with it.

You can only have that facility with mirrorless cameras with an EVF. It would simply be impossible to do with a DSLR OVF.

It seems silly to be disappointed because the camera doesn't have a facility it could  never possibly have.

John Cal
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Phil A Martin wrote:

John Cal wrote:

breeze_of_wind wrote:

With a fist full of Pentax and Sigma lenses, plus the full frame Pentax camera, all I hoped for was a new body for motion phootography -- birds, etc. They appear to have delivered. I do not have to move. A new Pentax camera and a couple of new lenses will do it -- maybe I will even look at the 560mm lens. Who knows.

I have a simple message -- thank you Pentax.

John Morris

I was hoping that this new camera would have offered a 'play back' mode through the view finder, I dont think it dose so a bit of a let down for me, but traditional DSLR users should be happy with it.

You can only have that facility with mirrorless cameras with an EVF. It would simply be impossible to do with a DSLR OVF.

It seems silly to be disappointed because the camera doesn't have a facility it could never possibly have.

Since Pentax holds a patient on a hybrid OVF/EVF which was the reasoning behind my thoughts about the possibility of this camera having the best of both worlds. I dont believe it to be a scilly idea over a feature that could be implemented? I am disappointed that this could have been a stand out camera, a camera that could utilise a Hybrid OVF/EVF would be a real game changer and a massive hit for Pentax. Alas not in this camera but maybe in the future? If Pentax can move forward with innovation.

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wolfone Forum Member • Posts: 55
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ditto

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All will be well, I am very sure.
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DHOC_TAZH
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John Cal wrote:

Phil A Martin wrote:

John Cal wrote:

breeze_of_wind wrote:

With a fist full of Pentax and Sigma lenses, plus the full frame Pentax camera, all I hoped for was a new body for motion phootography -- birds, etc. They appear to have delivered. I do not have to move. A new Pentax camera and a couple of new lenses will do it -- maybe I will even look at the 560mm lens. Who knows.

I have a simple message -- thank you Pentax.

John Morris

I was hoping that this new camera would have offered a 'play back' mode through the view finder, I dont think it dose so a bit of a let down for me, but traditional DSLR users should be happy with it.

You can only have that facility with mirrorless cameras with an EVF. It would simply be impossible to do with a DSLR OVF.

It seems silly to be disappointed because the camera doesn't have a facility it could never possibly have.

Since Pentax holds a patient on a hybrid OVF/EVF which was the reasoning behind my thoughts about the possibility of this camera having the best of both worlds. I dont believe it to be a scilly idea over a feature that could be implemented? I am disappointed that this could have been a stand out camera, a camera that could utilise a Hybrid OVF/EVF would be a real game changer and a massive hit for Pentax. Alas not in this camera but maybe in the future? If Pentax can move forward with innovation.

John Cal's point is understandable. Fuji has had a hybrid OVF/EVF setup with their higher end models since 2012. It's not impossible to install a hybrid viewfinder system in a DSLR if rangefinders can utilize them.

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RBellavance Senior Member • Posts: 1,234
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I'll most likely get one as well. My K-5II will be 8 years old this december and is starting to show its age. The K-3III appears to tick all the boxes for me.

markusm Regular Member • Posts: 142
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RBellavance wrote:

I'll most likely get one as well. My K-5II will be 8 years old this december and is starting to show its age. The K-3III appears to tick all the boxes for me.

My K-5 (the original one) is also nearing retirement. The K3-III might be the first upgrade I will seriously consider.

Phil A Martin
Phil A Martin Senior Member • Posts: 2,533
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DHOC_TAZH wrote:

John Cal wrote:

Phil A Martin wrote:

John Cal wrote:

breeze_of_wind wrote:

With a fist full of Pentax and Sigma lenses, plus the full frame Pentax camera, all I hoped for was a new body for motion phootography -- birds, etc. They appear to have delivered. I do not have to move. A new Pentax camera and a couple of new lenses will do it -- maybe I will even look at the 560mm lens. Who knows.

I have a simple message -- thank you Pentax.

John Morris

I was hoping that this new camera would have offered a 'play back' mode through the view finder, I dont think it dose so a bit of a let down for me, but traditional DSLR users should be happy with it.

You can only have that facility with mirrorless cameras with an EVF. It would simply be impossible to do with a DSLR OVF.

It seems silly to be disappointed because the camera doesn't have a facility it could never possibly have.

Since Pentax holds a patient on a hybrid OVF/EVF which was the reasoning behind my thoughts about the possibility of this camera having the best of both worlds. I dont believe it to be a scilly idea over a feature that could be implemented? I am disappointed that this could have been a stand out camera, a camera that could utilise a Hybrid OVF/EVF would be a real game changer and a massive hit for Pentax. Alas not in this camera but maybe in the future? If Pentax can move forward with innovation.

John Cal's point is understandable. Fuji has had a hybrid OVF/EVF setup with their higher end models since 2012. It's not impossible to install a hybrid viewfinder system in a DSLR if rangefinders can utilize them.

That is a completely different set up to Pentax DSLR cameras. With certain FUJI cameras, you can choose between a direct vision OVF viewfinder, similar to that in a rangefinder camera, such as you'd find in a Leica or flick a switch and use an EVF instead. This is a totally different set up to the standard SLR set up in a Pentax OVF.

Massao Senior Member • Posts: 2,580
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I don’t really take BIF photos often so not sure which lenses are available for K-mount but as you have many lenses for K-mount, getting a K-33 is an obvious choice. For me, its not as straightforward. I was more tempted when the specs came out but soon realized that for me, K-33 is just like buying into a new system altogether-- as I would need to buy at least three new lenses (PLM/ring-type SDM and Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8) to use the supposedly better AF system of K-33. Older screw-driven AF lenses won’t perform adequately if the AF system in camera is really as good as it can be. They will work better on K33 than previous Pentax DSLRs (most likely) but I don’t see a point of buying a new camera and not benefit from its AF system fully by using older lenses only.

Not sure what the 16-50mm f/2.8 PLM will cost but newer DC/PLM/SDM Pentax lenses are definitely more expensive here than equivalent lenses for Sony’s E /Nikon F system. Lots to think of For now, all my bases are covered so not in a hurry, per se. I can of course, wait a bit and pick up K-33 + lenses on discounts/sales when traveling through some other country later on (Norway is perhaps one of the worst places to buy Pentax gear ). We’ll see. For now, I anxiously wait for reviews and tests of K33 

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Phil A Martin
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Massao wrote:

I don’t really take BIF photos often so not sure which lenses are available for K-mount but as you have many lenses for K-mount, getting a K-33 is an obvious choice. For me, its not as straightforward. I was more tempted when the specs came out but soon realized that for me, K-33 is just like buying into a new system altogether-- as I would need to buy at least three new lenses (PLM/ring-type SDM and Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8) to use the supposedly better AF system of K-33. Older screw-driven AF lenses won’t perform adequately if the AF system in camera is really as good as it can be. They will work better on K33 than previous Pentax DSLRs (most likely) but I don’t see a point of buying a new camera and not benefit from its AF system fully by using older lenses only.

I guess that largely depends on what you're shooting. Unless you are doing sports or similar, for landscapes and the like, I'd have thought even older screwdriven lenses would be fine on the new K3iii.

Not sure what the 16-50mm f/2.8 PLM will cost but newer DC/PLM/SDM Pentax lenses are definitely more expensive here than equivalent lenses for Sony’s E /Nikon F system. Lots to think of For now, all my bases are covered so not in a hurry, per se. I can of course, wait a bit and pick up K-33 + lenses on discounts/sales when traveling through some other country later on (Norway is perhaps one of the worst places to buy Pentax gear ). We’ll see. For now, I anxiously wait for reviews and tests of K33

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Massao Senior Member • Posts: 2,580
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Phil A Martin wrote:

Massao wrote:

I don’t really take BIF photos often so not sure which lenses are available for K-mount but as you have many lenses for K-mount, getting a K-33 is an obvious choice. For me, its not as straightforward. I was more tempted when the specs came out but soon realized that for me, K-33 is just like buying into a new system altogether-- as I would need to buy at least three new lenses (PLM/ring-type SDM and Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8) to use the supposedly better AF system of K-33. Older screw-driven AF lenses won’t perform adequately if the AF system in camera is really as good as it can be. They will work better on K33 than previous Pentax DSLRs (most likely) but I don’t see a point of buying a new camera and not benefit from its AF system fully by using older lenses only.

I guess that largely depends on what you're shooting. Unless you are doing sports or similar, for landscapes and the like, I'd have thought even older screwdriven lenses would be fine on the new K3iii.

Yes, certainly. For still subjects or landscape, screw-driven lenses are more than enough. But for a child running around...not so much. I still use many screw-driven lenses and won't mind using a few on K-33 as well. But I know there are a few new lenses I will need to buy with K-33.

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Massao wrote:

I don’t really take BIF photos often so not sure which lenses are available for K-mount but as you have many lenses for K-mount, getting a K-33 is an obvious choice. For me, its not as straightforward. I was more tempted when the specs came out but soon realized that for me, K-33 is just like buying into a new system altogether-- as I would need to buy at least three new lenses (PLM/ring-type SDM and Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8) to use the supposedly better AF system of K-33. Older screw-driven AF lenses won’t perform adequately if the AF system in camera is really as good as it can be. They will work better on K33 than previous Pentax DSLRs (most likely) but I don’t see a point of buying a new camera and not benefit from its AF system fully by using older lenses only.

Not sure what the 16-50mm f/2.8 PLM will cost but newer DC/PLM/SDM Pentax lenses are definitely more expensive here than equivalent lenses for Sony’s E /Nikon F system.

In fact K3 iii will change nothing to this situation, except that it will make those newer lenses more valuable.

Also I think it's an error to consider K3 iii only valuable asset will be AF-C: even if we limit to AF, it will bring better viewfinder, joystick, touch AF and 12 FPS. All this can add value to all our lenses, even MF ones regarding viewfinder.

Lots to think of For now, all my bases are covered so not in a hurry, per se. I can of course, wait a bit and pick up K-33 + lenses on discounts/sales when traveling through some other country later on (Norway is perhaps one of the worst places to buy Pentax gear ). We’ll see. For now, I anxiously wait for reviews and tests of K33

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Massao Senior Member • Posts: 2,580
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JeremieB wrote:

Massao wrote:

I don’t really take BIF photos often so not sure which lenses are available for K-mount but as you have many lenses for K-mount, getting a K-33 is an obvious choice. For me, its not as straightforward. I was more tempted when the specs came out but soon realized that for me, K-33 is just like buying into a new system altogether-- as I would need to buy at least three new lenses (PLM/ring-type SDM and Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8) to use the supposedly better AF system of K-33. Older screw-driven AF lenses won’t perform adequately if the AF system in camera is really as good as it can be. They will work better on K33 than previous Pentax DSLRs (most likely) but I don’t see a point of buying a new camera and not benefit from its AF system fully by using older lenses only.

Not sure what the 16-50mm f/2.8 PLM will cost but newer DC/PLM/SDM Pentax lenses are definitely more expensive here than equivalent lenses for Sony’s E /Nikon F system.

In fact K3 iii will change nothing to this situation, except that it will make those newer lenses more valuable.

True, but without the AF improvements in K-33, I would not have considered to buy another Pentax camera at all.

Also I think it's an error to consider K3 iii only valuable asset will be AF-C: even if we limit to AF, it will bring better viewfinder, joystick, touch AF and 12 FPS. All this can add value to all our lenses, even MF ones regarding viewfinder.

Certainly K-33 has many other features also but for me the most important one is AF system. I already have several cameras with 8 fps and that is more than enough really. And I have cameras with touch AF as well, so none of those other features attract me that much. Its really the AF system that will make me buy K-33.

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Phil A Martin
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JeremieB wrote:

Massao wrote:

I don’t really take BIF photos often so not sure which lenses are available for K-mount but as you have many lenses for K-mount, getting a K-33 is an obvious choice. For me, its not as straightforward. I was more tempted when the specs came out but soon realized that for me, K-33 is just like buying into a new system altogether-- as I would need to buy at least three new lenses (PLM/ring-type SDM and Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8) to use the supposedly better AF system of K-33. Older screw-driven AF lenses won’t perform adequately if the AF system in camera is really as good as it can be. They will work better on K33 than previous Pentax DSLRs (most likely) but I don’t see a point of buying a new camera and not benefit from its AF system fully by using older lenses only.

Not sure what the 16-50mm f/2.8 PLM will cost but newer DC/PLM/SDM Pentax lenses are definitely more expensive here than equivalent lenses for Sony’s E /Nikon F system.

In fact K3 iii will change nothing to this situation, except that it will make those newer lenses more valuable.

Also I think it's an error to consider K3 iii only valuable asset will be AF-C: even if we limit to AF, it will bring better viewfinder, joystick, touch AF and 12 FPS. All this can add value to all our lenses, even MF ones regarding viewfinder.

Agreed. Fast AF is the last thing I'd need from the K3iii.

Lots to think of For now, all my bases are covered so not in a hurry, per se. I can of course, wait a bit and pick up K-33 + lenses on discounts/sales when traveling through some other country later on (Norway is perhaps one of the worst places to buy Pentax gear ). We’ll see. For now, I anxiously wait for reviews and tests of K33

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