Wide angle Lens for Nikon

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Sean English New Member • Posts: 20
Wide angle Lens for Nikon
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So, I'm a realtor and would love to start doing real estate photography on the side. I'm studying Photoshop and Lightroom plus anything else on youtube and internet I can get my hands on. (Currently reading Lighting Interiors by Scott Hargis) I don't own a great camera yet. Just a Nikon D50 which I tend to hold on to and practice with, edit some pictures before diving in for possibly a Nikon D7500. I don't have a wide angle lens yet. Trying to go step by step and economy till I'm confident. Can I buy a wide angle, decent for REP which will fit my D50 and then have it fit my future D7500? Are they interchangeable within Nikon brand? Can you suggest one?

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Mark Scott Abeln
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I believe that all lenses that will work on a D50 will also work on the D7500, although the opposite may not be true.

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FingerPainter Veteran Member • Posts: 9,498
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Mark Scott Abeln wrote:

I believe that all lenses that will work on a D50 will also work on the D7500, although the opposite may not be true.

In fact, there are a few really old lenses that will work on a D50 that won't work on a D7500: the ones that use the Ai index tab.

Any lens that is designated as AF-S will work on both cameras. The problem for OP is that one of his better choices for use on the D7500, the AF-P 10-20mm. will not work on the D50.

For real-estate on DX, one often wants to have a non-fisheye lens that has a minimum focal length of 11mm or shorter, to be able to take photos from corners, 12mm isn't  quite short enough. Not being able to use AF-P leaves only the inferior 10-24mm DX lens as a native choice. I use the 12-24mm f/4 that I got for my D50,and I find myself wanting a bit wider field of view.

Faster, larger and more expensive alternatives can be found with the Tokina 11-16mm and 11-20mm f/2.8 lenses. I don't think one really needs faster lenses for real estate photography as one wants the whole view in the DoF and ought to be using lighting.

Leonard Migliore
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FingerPainter wrote:

For real-estate on DX, one often wants to have a non-fisheye lens that has a minimum focal length of 11mm or shorter, to be able to take photos from corners, 12mm isn't quite short enough. Not being able to use AF-P leaves only the inferior 10-24mm DX lens as a native choice. I use the 12-24mm f/4 that I got for my D50,and I find myself wanting a bit wider field of view.

You find the 10-20 AF-P better than the 10-24? I have found the 10-24 to be pretty good, even at its widest setting. I thought its only downside was that it cost 3 times as much as the 10-20.

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Gerry Winterbourne Forum Pro • Posts: 18,190
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Sean English wrote:

So, I'm a realtor and would love to start doing real estate photography on the side. I'm studying Photoshop and Lightroom plus anything else on youtube and internet I can get my hands on. (Currently reading Lighting Interiors by Scott Hargis) I don't own a great camera yet. Just a Nikon D50 which I tend to hold on to and practice with, edit some pictures before diving in for possibly a Nikon D7500. I don't have a wide angle lens yet. Trying to go step by step and economy till I'm confident. Can I buy a wide angle, decent for REP which will fit my D50 and then have it fit my future D7500? Are they interchangeable within Nikon brand? Can you suggest one?

I don't know about compatibility but the Sigma 8-16/4.5-5.6 will give you the widest view that's not fisheye. Regardless of which lens you buy, use a solid tripod sand make sure you keep the camera dead level or you'll get disturbing perspective effects. Those effects can often (but not always) be dealt with later in Photoshop but it's much better to avoid them from the outset.

Others have suggested lenses of 10-xx or 12-xx. These shots show how much more you get using 8mm (full picture) compared to 10mm or 12mm (inset).

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FingerPainter Veteran Member • Posts: 9,498
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Leonard Migliore wrote:

FingerPainter wrote:

For real-estate on DX, one often wants to have a non-fisheye lens that has a minimum focal length of 11mm or shorter, to be able to take photos from corners, 12mm isn't quite short enough. Not being able to use AF-P leaves only the inferior 10-24mm DX lens as a native choice. I use the 12-24mm f/4 that I got for my D50,and I find myself wanting a bit wider field of view.

You find the 10-20 AF-P better than the 10-24? I have found the 10-24 to be pretty good, even at its widest setting. I thought its only downside was that it cost 3 times as much as the 10-20.

Actually I don't personally find it anything at all, as I don't shoot enough ultra-wide to have replaced my AF-S DX 12-24mm f/4. I'm going by what appears to me to be the strong consensus of reviewers I trust.

They seem to find the 10-20 optically better at the wide end, faster and quieter to focus, lighter, and it has VR that is good enough to more than make up for the slower max aperture. Obviously much better for video. Oh, and it doesn't cost anywhere near as much as the old 10-24mm.

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Sean English wrote:

So, I'm a realtor and would love to start doing real estate photography on the side. I'm studying Photoshop and Lightroom plus anything else on youtube and internet I can get my hands on. (Currently reading Lighting Interiors by Scott Hargis) I don't own a great camera yet. Just a Nikon D50 which I tend to hold on to and practice with, edit some pictures before diving in for possibly a Nikon D7500. I don't have a wide angle lens yet. Trying to go step by step and economy till I'm confident. Can I buy a wide angle, decent for REP which will fit my D50 and then have it fit my future D7500? Are they interchangeable within Nikon brand? Can you suggest one?

The particular type of Nikon you have and are contemplating, which Nikon calls 'DX', is not the best furnished for wide angle lenses. It depends what you mean by 'wide angle'. A 'standard' lens for your camera is 35mm, and anything with a shorter focal length is 'wide angle'. Somewhere below 16mm is what gets called 'ultra wide angle'. The problem with the available lenses is that they tend to be slow (have a small aperture). This isn't a problem for real-estate photography if you're willing to carry a tripod. If so, Gerry Winterbourne has already suggested the Sigma 8-16, which is a very good quality lens and give you ultra wide-angle. Unfortunately there are no wide-angle 'fast' lenses for DX Nikon cameras.

If you want to upgrade at some point, and want top specialise in that kind of photography, you might do well to consider a different camera. The D7500 is an excellent camera, but wide angles are its weak point (like most APS-C DSLRs). You could either get a 'full-frame' DSLR, which can be quite economical if you buy used - look at prices on Nikon D800, for instance. The downside to this is that whilst your 'wide angle' would fit, it would not cover the whole frame. However, the D800 has a DX mode which will still give you better results than your D50, and could then take a fast wide-angle when you get one.

Or you could look at the newer mirrorless cameras, which have much better wide-angle coverage, including some fast lenses. The Nikon Z50 might be a possibility if at some time in the future brands like Sigma extend their lens coverage to it. It would accept your existing lenses via an 'FTZ' adapter. Otherwise, it would mean changing brand, which would lose you full-function use of your Nikon lenses.

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Sean English wrote:

So, I'm a realtor and would love to start doing real estate photography on the side.... I don't own a great camera yet. Just a Nikon D50 which I tend to hold on to and practice with, edit some pictures before diving in for possibly a Nikon D7500. I don't have a wide angle lens yet. ...

Real estate implies a need for wide angle shots.

Have you considered something like the D610 rather than the D7500 as your future camera? That would make a huge difference but most importantly it would mean not getting a DX lens since the D610 is an FX body.

Another (wild) idea is to consider panoramas when needed. This is extra post processing work but the results can be really impressive.

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tclune Senior Member • Posts: 1,306
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It has certainly been the tradition to use UWA lenses for real estate photography. With the ready availability of video, I wonder if that still makes sense. The problem with UWA lenses is that they make a closet look like a cathedral. I would expect that the photos would lead to a lot of unhappy customers when they actually visit the house that caught their eye on line. With video, you don't need to use a distorting lens to give a sense of an entire room. And, as a bonus, a more normal focal length is much less fidgety to use. I wonder whether a zoom that goes down to 16 or 18 mm might not give better overall results. Just a thought.

Mark Scott Abeln
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tclune wrote:

And, as a bonus, a more normal focal length is much less fidgety to use. I wonder whether a zoom that goes down to 16 or 18 mm might not give better overall results. Just a thought.

That's my thinking as well. I've done a lot of architectural interiors, and I find that 18 mm (or perhaps just a bit wider) is enough for nearly all wide angle interiors taken with an APS-C sensor.

Folks like using an ultra wide because they want to get the whole room in the photo, but is the whole room interesting? Or will the wide shot mainly get large areas of blank and uninteresting ceiling, floor, and walls?

Distortion is a major consideration: things to the sides will of course look stretched, and converging vertical lines are always a problem, but another issue is converging horizontal lines—particularly on the farthest wall—which can make the room look non-rectangular, and so care must be taken to align the camera not only with the back vertical, but also with the back parallel to the far wall.

Cropping is always a possibility to avoid these problems, but if cropping is the norm, then a longer focal length is called for.

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Sean English wrote:

So, I'm a realtor and would love to start doing real estate photography on the side. I'm studying Photoshop and Lightroom plus anything else on youtube and internet I can get my hands on. (Currently reading Lighting Interiors by Scott Hargis) I don't own a great camera yet. Just a Nikon D50 which I tend to hold on to and practice with, edit some pictures before diving in for possibly a Nikon D7500. I don't have a wide angle lens yet. Trying to go step by step and economy till I'm confident. Can I buy a wide angle, decent for REP which will fit my D50 and then have it fit my future D7500? Are they interchangeable within Nikon brand? Can you suggest one?

Recommend taking a look at the,

Nikon 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 lens,

as seen in the picture below.

This lens was originally purchased for my D40 camera,

and now is being used with my D7500 camera, and works good.

Cheers!

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Below are a few pictures taken with my 10-24mm lens,

and all the pictures shown was taken using the 10mm.

Cheers!

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