I went all in with the z system

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msstudio Regular Member • Posts: 492
Re: I went all in with the z system

I don't think its a bad thing at all. Every camera/system/format has its unique advantages and disadvantages. In my view I look at image quality first, which, when everything is equal, comes down to the lenses. Then I'm looking at usability, but if the one of the first benchmarks fail, I'm actually not interested. It's always a compromise, but that potentially makes you a better operator and keeps your mind fresh. From the UI standpoint I really like my Hasselblads, but fo low light/ available light they're a challenge to say the least.

The Nikon Z system delivers outstanding results, that to me feels a notch above regular 35mm digital capture (lenses!!), and the technology doesn't get in the way, so I'm happy to compromise a bit portability for this. Also, the single Focal length lenses do help (a bit, still large compared to Leica M).

At this point this is there last system I'll let go, and yes, i'm upgrading asap to replace hopefully my Sony A9 II kit (if the AF improves dramatically).

keep on shooting...

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Hasselblad X1D II 50C Sony a9 II Nikon Z6 II Nikon Z7 II Hasselblad XCD 90mm F3.2 +13 more
halai Contributing Member • Posts: 843
Re: I went all in with the z system
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I love the images as well.  Keep up the good work!

halai

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Atahualpa Regular Member • Posts: 368
Re: I went all in with the z system
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BurnImage wrote:

Atahualpa wrote:

Miamistan wrote:

I have owned a z7 for a year and a half now having only the 24-70mm f 4. At the same time I have 3 Fuji bodies and eight Fuji lenses. I find the fuji is a better shooting experience more classic analog dials and I really loved some of the in camera film simulations. Fuji is also easier to carry around and less obtrusive for street photography. Although my Fuji has produced good images I sold all of my Fuji gear because I now shoot mostly landscape and their can be no denying the Nikon produces cleaner files detailed files. So yesterday I bought a z5 with the 24-50 lens to replace the Fuji as my walkaround camera. I also picked up the 14-30 f4 and the 35mm 1.8g which I use for my low light photography. For telephoto I ordered the 70-300 apf and the last two lenses I will use on the ftz. I had an 85 1.8 g left over from my old Nikon system which was a d610 which I sold for the lighter weight Fuji. I've kept my Panasonic lx100m2 for street photography because is really Small and makes great incamera BW.

I am having buyers regrets because I love the handling of the Fuji but the z system image quality is just superb. I will start to post some pictures in this forum of work done on the z series

Old Mill Smokey Mountains z7 24-70 f4

St Marys 12 Century Church England

Feedback often comes when you least expect it, right? I want to say, I am not here to offend you. But to put it quite frankly, there's a certain quality in those images that I am missing. My advice is to learn more about some photographic techniques and theories than worry about gear and to develop a photographic eye. You have awesome gear, whether it was the Fuji, the Panasonic, or the Nikon. Going from Fujifilm to Nikon, I don't know what you expected, but you have to work on your technique and not on your gear.

Here's some recommendations:

1. Mark Denney: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCujr_HrX3ThMb34DV5YXHIg

He has a channel full of educational content for landscape photographers. He has both on-location tips and post-processing tips. He is very open, supportive and friendly and runs a business based on youtube being his public display. I watched him for a while, but I am not into landscape, so I dropped the channel. I think watching some of his videos you can profit quite a lot.

2. Advancing your photography: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYYY0OELyiUyMfYHn0ZL6vw

Marc Silber has a very supportive and friendly channel that helps people with growing in photography. They have some very good interviews. I particularly like the ones with Bob Homes, a former photographer for national geographic. He gives excellent advice. In addition they do C&C every once in a while for user submitted photos. These are VERY helpful!

3. The SnapChick: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2hubjuU7U4zIc_UpG-hFqA

Another landscape and sometimes also wildlife photographer. I have the impression she hikes a lot and carries a ton of equipment around each time. She has less of a public display than Mark Denney, but she has a lot of educational content if you join her channel as a paying member (I do not, because again I am not into landscape).

4. Ricci Talks: https://www.youtube.com/c/RicciTalks/videos

Ricci is a Nikon employee in the UK and thus has a very gear-focused channel. But at the same time he is a landscape photographer that goes out and uses his Nikon equipment in landscape photography. He says he does a lot of long exposure landscapes. Don't so much look at his lens comparison videos, but those that relate the Z7 and landscape photography.

5. Matt Irwin: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjQ120w-el6FqOU7qt1iRew

Another landscape photographer, he has a big heart for Nikon, but also has other brands that he uses. He is talking more about the industry and his equipment. But, he also has on-location shoots where you can watch him take pictures. He is a professional photographer and does landscapes mostly in the area of Melbourne, Australia. So more urban. He's a very polite and friendly mate.

Often we think the gear is so important and with the best gear we can make the best photos. However most often, the better location, the more knowledge on color theory, on composition, on post-processing skills, on a sense for moments, is worth more than the best camera that is available to date. Otherwise, how could any photographer produce any great photo in the last 100 years? The equipment they had back then was always much worse than what is offered today.

Looking at your extensive galleries and portfolio I suggest maybe you should read some of the links you’ve posted too.......

That comment was wholly unnecessary. What you are doing is just bashing. But seemingly bashing is received well here on the forums... Your post lacks more constructive content than mine. And I was being criticized heavily for this and you receive 7 likes. How is that other than hypocrisy? Instead of joining in the adventure of improving with photography the overall trend here on the forums is to start a negative spiral at the next best opportunity. Luckily, I am 40 years of age, so I have seen my share of online discussions going wrong too many times. I think with a generally more positive attitude towards each other many things could be different. We can't always start our posts with a 1 page preamble that sets a context for tone. The default approach should be that posters are good spirited and well minded and not idiots whose opinions need to be combated. There are many opinions and they can live side by side. I offered just mine.

Back to your "point": If you followed some of the threads I engaged in on open talk you would know that I think hard about growing as a photographer and the resources I listed are or were all consumed by me. I do not just post some links that I find, but where I have personal experience with and that I deem helpful. Writing my criticized post took about 40 minutes and I am somewhat frustrated that taking such time leads to such an outroar. Saying that I should consume some of the links is assuming that I did not already do so. It's not helpful, but just bashing. I am really thinking about leaving this community if it is hostile to the idea of learning and growing.

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Nikon D7000 Nikon Z6 Sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC Nikon 200-500mm F5.6E ED VR Nikon Z 24-70mm F4 +2 more
1llusive
1llusive Veteran Member • Posts: 3,304
Re: I went all in with the z system
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Atahualpa wrote:

Miamistan wrote:

I have owned a z7 for a year and a half now having only the 24-70mm f 4. At the same time I have 3 Fuji bodies and eight Fuji lenses. I find the fuji is a better shooting experience more classic analog dials and I really loved some of the in camera film simulations. Fuji is also easier to carry around and less obtrusive for street photography. Although my Fuji has produced good images I sold all of my Fuji gear because I now shoot mostly landscape and their can be no denying the Nikon produces cleaner files detailed files. So yesterday I bought a z5 with the 24-50 lens to replace the Fuji as my walkaround camera. I also picked up the 14-30 f4 and the 35mm 1.8g which I use for my low light photography. For telephoto I ordered the 70-300 apf and the last two lenses I will use on the ftz. I had an 85 1.8 g left over from my old Nikon system which was a d610 which I sold for the lighter weight Fuji. I've kept my Panasonic lx100m2 for street photography because is really Small and makes great incamera BW.

I am having buyers regrets because I love the handling of the Fuji but the z system image quality is just superb. I will start to post some pictures in this forum of work done on the z series

Old Mill Smokey Mountains z7 24-70 f4

St Marys 12 Century Church England

Feedback often comes when you least expect it, right? I want to say, I am not here to offend you. But to put it quite frankly, there's a certain quality in those images that I am missing. My advice is to learn more about some photographic techniques and theories than worry about gear and to develop a photographic eye. You have awesome gear, whether it was the Fuji, the Panasonic, or the Nikon. Going from Fujifilm to Nikon, I don't know what you expected, but you have to work on your technique and not on your gear.

Here's some recommendations:

1. Mark Denney: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCujr_HrX3ThMb34DV5YXHIg

He has a channel full of educational content for landscape photographers. He has both on-location tips and post-processing tips. He is very open, supportive and friendly and runs a business based on youtube being his public display. I watched him for a while, but I am not into landscape, so I dropped the channel. I think watching some of his videos you can profit quite a lot.

2. Advancing your photography: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYYY0OELyiUyMfYHn0ZL6vw

Marc Silber has a very supportive and friendly channel that helps people with growing in photography. They have some very good interviews. I particularly like the ones with Bob Homes, a former photographer for national geographic. He gives excellent advice. In addition they do C&C every once in a while for user submitted photos. These are VERY helpful!

3. The SnapChick: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2hubjuU7U4zIc_UpG-hFqA

Another landscape and sometimes also wildlife photographer. I have the impression she hikes a lot and carries a ton of equipment around each time. She has less of a public display than Mark Denney, but she has a lot of educational content if you join her channel as a paying member (I do not, because again I am not into landscape).

4. Ricci Talks: https://www.youtube.com/c/RicciTalks/videos

Ricci is a Nikon employee in the UK and thus has a very gear-focused channel. But at the same time he is a landscape photographer that goes out and uses his Nikon equipment in landscape photography. He says he does a lot of long exposure landscapes. Don't so much look at his lens comparison videos, but those that relate the Z7 and landscape photography.

5. Matt Irwin: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjQ120w-el6FqOU7qt1iRew

Another landscape photographer, he has a big heart for Nikon, but also has other brands that he uses. He is talking more about the industry and his equipment. But, he also has on-location shoots where you can watch him take pictures. He is a professional photographer and does landscapes mostly in the area of Melbourne, Australia. So more urban. He's a very polite and friendly mate.

Often we think the gear is so important and with the best gear we can make the best photos. However most often, the better location, the more knowledge on color theory, on composition, on post-processing skills, on a sense for moments, is worth more than the best camera that is available to date. Otherwise, how could any photographer produce any great photo in the last 100 years? The equipment they had back then was always much worse than what is offered today.

I would add Hudson Henry to that list: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnYJvw2u3aG9ItwHXm8PbCA

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Qbalion Contributing Member • Posts: 517
Re: I went all in with the z system

What do you think we can expect from 40mm compact Z lens? I am looking for something in this focal length and speed and 50mm 1.8 seem a bit too bulky for my Z50.

40mm could be a good balance between IQ and size.

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